POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 8

[chook fowler 18,628]

Frost returning to the backline has been huge. His dash and good ball use have set up many forward moves and also allowed TMac to go forward which was the match winning move IMO.

[Binmans PA 26,833]

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

He has a turn of speed that really worries defenders, love it.

And he can run them off their feet with his aerobic capacity. 

[deelete my account 1,194]

4 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Every goal is checked

It would have been umpire's call

The only thing that stands between him and the Mazda is Sidebottom's freakish goal

It was a great goal but players are kicking bananas or floaters from the boundary most weeks though that was the pick of them. Jayden Hunt with a 5 bounce run that evades two or three players and bombs from 60 will be a GOTY some time this year. Those kinda goals deserve it way more than freakish boundary goals.

Edited May 14, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[Binmans PA 26,833]

6 hours ago, Vagg said:

Agreed.  Nev was great, and Eddie hardly got a sniff.  But, have to hand it to Eddie.  He's just gotta get hold of the ball and you can bet it will end in a goal.  Both of his goals last night were freakish.  So, to limit him to just two was a great effort by Nev!!

And one of those two goals was on Hibberd when he went to ground. One of the rare times Nev wasn't with him. I thought at the time, Nev wouldn't have lost his feet like that.

[dl4e 5,728]

2 hours ago, Hell Bent said:

Dunno about leave him there but he may well be becoming one of those swingmen we`ve lacked for more years than I can remember.

I was thinking more of the 2 macs in the backline. The mistakes are shocking at times. I know it sounds silly but one at either end of the ground is safer I think.

[In Harmes Way 7,620]

8 hours ago, DemonOX said:

Great result for u small.

U couldn't have planned it better if u tried.

Would have been great walking out after the game around all those two headed cow supporters!

Sure was Ox.

i took the view early that we were probably going to lose, so I'd celebrate our achievements loudly. Kept it up all night, my personal favourite was when I yelled out "PERCENTAGE BOOSTER" whilst laughing when Kenty kicked the last goal.

It was like 45,000 people leaving a funeral. I loved every bit of it!

 

Edited May 14, 2017 by small but forward

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6 hours ago, Farmer said:

 

Just watched replay. Until I did so, I hadn't realised how important was the Bugg goal in the second quarter. Until then we were getting smashed. A 10'goal or more loss was on the cards. Bugg's kick was not easy but he slotted it. At the next bounce our mids went in with a ferocity lacking the previous 15 minutes and almost immediately Jones goaled, and the game was turned on its head

Scoreboard pressure is what has killed us in a number of games this year. I'm glad it didn't last night.

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Good to hear the 'whoo hoo' guy was back in action yesterday! Slowly becoming a cult figure at AO!

Makes the goals even better I reckon. Haha.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

6 hours ago, Demon77 said:

On the slow mo it looks like it took a funny deflection when the ball was near the post, I wondered the same.

His celebration makes me think it went through.

I wondered that too, and i said it in the match thread. Ive had another look and it does look like the revolutions of the ball sped up as it went past the post.......cant really see much reaction from the Adelaide supporters apart from a few filthy looks...(gold)....and the commentary said nothing....must be a trick with the lights....

[Winners at last 4,962]

42 minutes ago, small but forward said:

Sure was Ox.

i took the view early that we were probably going to lose, so I'd celebrate our achievements loudly. Kept it up all night, my personal favourite was when I yelled out "PERCENTAGE BOOSTER" whilst laughing when Kenty kicked the last goal.

It was like 45,000 people leaving a funeral. I loved every bit of it!

 

Nothing like admiring your own work !!

[frankie_d 1,415]

9 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Hannan is difficult to place. He looks so lost at times, but when you watch the replays, he is very physical in the air and at ground level. 

TMac played his hunior footy as a CHF - is my memory correct here? Looked a natural forward and should stay there. 

Who could believe that of all people, OMac would play a blinder on a gorilla? A great game from him tonight, when I thought he would get monstered. 

Petracca is so strong through the hips and legs, he is almost impossible to bring down. And then his skill and decision making!!! 

Some selection and position headaches coming up for coaches and selectors. 

(Beeep), I  am a happy old bugger this morning. The missus isn't safe! 

Re TMac. Yep he was a forward, and I think his position in defence grew out of Roos banishing Frawley to full forward.

[Binmans PA 26,833]

5 hours ago, binman said:

Agreed. One of the great wins. And 5 minutes into the last you could see there was no way we were going to lose.

Some random thoughts on the game:

• A serious comment: Oliver is already almost the best mid we have had for 30 years. His hands are incredible, his vision is next to none, his courage is unbelievable and his tackling is first class. But what really stands out is how quick his mind is and how this parlays into great decision making skills. That goal was an example. You could tell that even in the spit second he had he knew what he wanted to do before he got it in his hands. There are any number of less speculator examples, many of which involve him setting up scoring opportunities for team mates with great handballs
• Another serious comment: as good as Oliver is Trac might be better. Big call i know and in many ways they are different players with Oliver being more a pure mid. But good lord Trac has so much talent, is incredibly strong and is simply brilliant at setting up team mates for scoring opportunistic (he clearly values assists over shots on goal himself - and i have no doubt that is related to his basketball background as in bball assists is THE critical stat). Now i'm not saying he is or will be as good, but the player he most reminds me of is Leigh Matthews. He has similar explosiveness, strong thighs, strength,  low center of gravity, great hands, hits contests at pace and with ferocity and most all vision. And like Matthew (and Oliver) he has a very quick mind

 

Love Trac and think he will be a star, but Oliver is something else. A genius at 19 years of age. I love that we have both of them. I wish Brayshaw could get through games without concussing himself, because he, along with Salem, Viney and Tyson form a massively talented group of young mids.

[Young Blood 2,036]

Another less serious comment: Oliver being called a genius is pretty funny. Has anyone heard him talk? A lovely country lad.

But seriously what a start to a career. Clay, Viney and Trac willed themselves to win that game last night.

Edited May 14, 2017 by mongrel

[titan_uranus 23,297]

I've now been able to watch the replay.

We made Adelaide look completely ordinary. That sentence is remarkable in itself. 

Our pressure was exactly where it ought to be, and was there for the entire game. We knew what we needed to do, we stuck to it, and it worked.

We also, finally, made the most of our dominance and converted it into scoreboard pressure, a huge problem so far this year.

Our backline played really well, helpfully supporting the argument against the proposition that our backline "leaks like a sieve". And it didn't stand up against any old side, it stood up against the competition's strongest forward line, at their home ground.

With that pressure, that direct ball movement, and that clean use of it going inside as we had this week, we are capable of beating anyone. The season is in our hands.

[Damo 3,044]

Richmond cheer squad used to have a "Danny Frawley, Our Genius" sign. I suppose genius is hard to spot.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

5 hours ago, binman said:

Agreed. One of the great wins. And 5 minutes into the last you could see there was no way we were going to lose.

Some random thoughts on the game:

• A serious comment: Oliver is already almost the best mid we have had for 30 years. His hands are incredible, his vision is next to none, his courage is unbelievable and his tackling is first class. But what really stands out is how quick his mind is and how this parlays into great decision making skills. That goal was an example. You could tell that even in the spit second he had he knew what he wanted to do before he got it in his hands. There are any number of less speculator examples, many of which involve him setting up scoring opportunities for team mates with great handballs
• Another serious comment: as good as Oliver is Trac might be better. Big call i know and in many ways they are different players with Oliver being more a pure mid. But good lord Trac has so much talent, is incredibly strong and is simply brilliant at setting up team mates for scoring opportunistic (he clearly values assists over shots on goal himself - and i have no doubt that is related to his basketball background as in bball assists is THE critical stat). Now i'm not saying he is or will be as good, but the player he most reminds me of is Leigh Matthews. He has similar explosiveness, strong thighs, strength,  low center of gravity, great hands, hits contests at pace and with ferocity and most all vision. And like Matthew (and Oliver) he has a very quick mind

 

Just on this, Petracca is 2nd in the league for goal assists. Oliver is 10th.

[DeeZone 8,213]

After watching the game several times now and reading all the posters there isn't much that I can add, we were jumping out of our skin last night and it was difficult to believe that we were playing such tough scintillating Footy and kicking goal after goal without missing easy shots. At the end of the game I felt like I had a head spin, Awesome effort from our boy's, I loved every minute of that game. Go Dee's!!!!!!

[Demon_spurs 1,740]

37 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I've now been able to watch the replay.

We made Adelaide look completely ordinary. That sentence is remarkable in itself. 

Our pressure was exactly where it ought to be, and was there for the entire game. We knew what we needed to do, we stuck to it, and it worked.

We also, finally, made the most of our dominance and converted it into scoreboard pressure, a huge problem so far this year.

Our backline played really well, helpfully supporting the argument against the proposition that our backline "leaks like a sieve". And it didn't stand up against any old side, it stood up against the competition's strongest forward line, at their home ground.

With that pressure, that direct ball movement, and that clean use of it going inside as we had this week, we are capable of beating anyone. The season is in our hands.

I'm glad you have been able to watch the replay, I'm having all sorts of problems with AFL.com this week, but the video just won't load atm....Anyone else having this problem?

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

5 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Oliver into 31/1 for the Brownlow (from 51)........2 words..Get on.

Already did 20 bucks at 61/1

[Skuit 9,382]

3 hours ago, A F said:

And one of those two goals was on Hibberd when he went to ground. One of the rare times Nev wasn't with him. I thought at the time, Nev wouldn't have lost his feet like that.

The other one was definitely on Nev though. Sucked into the contest for no good reason and left Betts alone with a heap of space in a dangerous spot. However, I think it may have given him a necessary wake-up. 

[Binmans PA 26,833]

8 minutes ago, Skuit said:

The other one was definitely on Nev though. Sucked into the contest for no good reason and left Betts alone with a heap of space in a dangerous spot. However, I think it may have given him a necessary wake-up. 

Yeah, one down moment in 2 hours of football. It didn't cost us. Thought he was AA-like (as usual).

[Engorged Onion 9,659]

1 hour ago, Demon_spurs said:

I'm glad you have been able to watch the replay, I'm having all sorts of problems with AFL.com this week, but the video just won't load atm....Anyone else having this problem?

Yeah I have, I just got back from os today - and have seen only the 3rd qrt - the rest of the game won't load... so so disappointing

[leave it to deever 16,643]

3 hours ago, dl4e said:

I was thinking more of the 2 macs in the backline. The mistakes are shocking at times. I know it sounds silly but one at either end of the ground is safer I think.

Was great coaching.

[Engorged Onion 9,659]

TMac... I saw someone flagged a Reiwoldt like endurance (the N, not the J) ... I quite like TMAC defensively in all aspects aside from kicking... but jeez, could it be a long term proposition? 

[binman 39,780]

1 hour ago, Demon_spurs said:

I'm glad you have been able to watch the replay, I'm having all sorts of problems with AFL.com this week, but the video just won't load atm....Anyone else having this problem?

Yes. Fair dinkum, jusy hopeless. 1 billion plus for tv rights and they cant get a bloody website right

[Chook 14,710]

One other thing that I really loved from last night’s performance is how we targeted Sloan physically but didn’t do anything that would get our players suspended.

It’s one thing to be a physical team, but we have to play within the spirit of the rules and keep our best players on the park.

Edited May 14, 2017 by Chook