POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 4

[shorty 233]

Well I'm [censored] because we should be 4 zip. Take everything out of the game that you can but for TWO weeks in a row we have been beaten by the opposition teams A graders it's as simple as that. We have no A graders in the mid field and really apart from Gawn no others at this point, and until we find a fyfe, danger, neill, Shiel, Martin etc we are going to hover where we are.  Real Champions always find a way to win.

[DemonOX 8,791]

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE. 

Well done MFC another quality showing to set a good mood for a long weekend. 

This team never surprises me anymore and it doesn't seem to ever end. 

[DemonOX 8,791]

Again we had NO LEADERSHIP. 

This has been a constant problem for years and until we get quality leaders we r going nowhere. 

This team and their performances really f a r k s me off and I've had a gut full tbh. 

Ruined yet another weekend. 

Edited April 15, 2017 by DemonOX

[pinkshark 950]

1 hour ago, Dockett 32 said:

We have been led to believe we aren't there anymore.

Next week tells the story.

I wasn't led to believe anything.  Rounds 1-22 tell the story.  Absolutely nothing else. 

Today was a disaster.  But some very positive signs all the same.  I'm still pumped.

Many on here think we have some given right to be final eight.  Competition is way to tough.  Having said that I have seen enough in these first four rounds to think we can still give it a shake.  

 

1 hour ago, Goffer said:

Carried away? I'm fed up with the [censored] from the club, we have been rubbish for years and watching arrogance like they displayed today (they've no reason to be arrogant, they've achieved nothing yet) is galling. It really annoys me, talk about 'journey' etc when we can't put away middle of the road teams at home. Even worse will be the week of shite to put up with at work

I agree with everything you say.  100%.  Drives me mental.  I was referring to the 'carried away' thing because its actually not impossible at all.  

But I remember in recent years just wanting a team that is competitive and has a chance to win.  We are certainly that.  We have no more right to be a final eight team than any other really.  

[barneymfc 152]

40 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

At the game today and noticed they put Watts back for the last few minutes of the second quarter.

Good idea but he was badly outplayed when the ball came to ground and well... we know what happened.

Why didn't we putt Watts and a crumber back ... one on one ground play is and never has been Watt's strength

watts is the only real player we have

[old dee 23,792]

1 minute ago, barneymfc said:

watts is the only real player we have

Top class the rest are somewhere below.

[dees189227 12,394]

It was just so disappointing and I hate to say it but typical of Melbourne. They got to comfortable at half time and others pointed out that at 1/2 time that again a team managed to find a goal on the siren.  

3rd quarter being there watching it, it seemed we thought we have got this and just stopped. The bad thing was there was no leadership to stem the onslaught.  Plus I didn't see many moves happening. 

There were plenty of times today when we had no forward line. The midfield would look up to find no one there. Weiderman yes I know he got injured but it was like he had no confidence today or knew what to do. Plus he butchered that shot at goal in the final term. Im sorry but I thought Smith showed a lot more than Weids last week. But if we had a so called player up there as a target then that would have helped. Hope he enjoyed his 2 weeks rest. 

We also missed easy goals and I still have no idea how Kent stuffed up that handball to Watts in the goal square who kicked it when the ball was already over the line and also Viney missing when he got that 100 metre penalty. Also looking at that final McCarthy goal, Frost spoiled the ball and hit it backwards which set it up for Cam. 

We should easily be 4-0. Next 4 games are Richmond, bombers hawks crows. That will tell us where we are at. 

Just very disappointed. 

Oh and a message for the players. If you see Watts in the forward line, particularly the goal square and especially if he is one out, KICK IT TO HIM. He will mark it and kick the goal. Each time he goals for goal I never worry. He is a beautiful kick. a number of times lately he has led and hasn't been passed the ball. 

 

Edited April 15, 2017 by dees189227

[Nasher 33,616]

1 hour ago, Goffer said:

Carried away? I'm fed up with the [censored] from the club, we have been rubbish for years and watching arrogance like they displayed today (they've no reason to be arrogant, they've achieved nothing yet) is galling. It really annoys me, talk about 'journey' etc when we can't put away middle of the road teams at home. Even worse will be the week of shite to put up with at work

How old are you? If you're any older than the age of 6, now seems an odd time to be fed up. 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,841]

Logging off Demonland for the night - too depressing, I thought these kind of [censored] performances were behind us.  Might cruise the news sites, perhaps Kim Jong-un has fired missile somewhere or something, Trump and Putin are preparing the nukes - even that would just about be less depressing than the [censored] result of today's match at the G.

[shorty 233]

The goals we are conseeding in the last few minutes of quarters when we have the momentum is also really doing my head in, it's becoming predictable.

[DemonOX 8,791]

What the hell is Bernie Vince drinking?

What ever the hell it is he better stop taking it. 

[picket fence 17,172]

31 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I thought Frost was quite good.

I definitely feel far more relaxed with him down back then Oscar.

Here Here!!!

[Willmoy1947 4,098]

Four games in now and i am beginning to dampen my expectations. The pace of the games so far, has, to date been frenetic, but it was good footy today, or most of it.

The season is long, very long, and is not away from us yet. Track and Spencer today were very good. My take of us at the moment is we are going alright, have not copped a beating and we have good players to come in and stabilize things when things really get started. I go back to what i said about how i think we are going to be surprised at the end of the season as to who is and isn't in the Team.

Oh and just a word about the commentators. Someone said this before but i love it "unrepresentative swill"

[Ted Lasso 19,521]

Crows scoring power is amazing even without an absolute a grade midfield, i think they are the team to beat this year. 

 

[pinkshark 950]

1 hour ago, Forest Demon said:

Well, yes, but you simply can't win every game, it is impossible. This year is extremely even, and my point was simply that if we find that consistency, we are as good a team as any in the whole comp, perhaps bar GWS and Adelaide. Of course it is big if, but nearly every other side has similar "ifs" hanging over them.

There are certain posters who paint it in a way that if we aren't 22-0 at the end of the home and away, it is a failure.

great points FD.  Not all see it this way.  Its a real insight into the mind of an idiot is this forum.

Edited April 15, 2017 by pinkshark

[Redlagged 812]

13 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Here Here!!!

His idiotic spoil at the end - effected, I think with closed eyes - cost us the game. Total amateur. We seem to breed them like flies.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Redlagged
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[Deecisive 1,709]

Gutted at the performance, another game we could have won but did not. Disappointed in the kicking it back and playing keepings off in the last 2:30mins that put us on the defensive and gave Freo the heart to go on the attack and they made us pay. The lack of self belief in going forwrd and attacking is worrying. 

The lessons from a couple of weeks ago of lowering our eyes and picking out targets instead of bombing long appears lost again. 

[DemonOX 8,791]

3 hours ago, Radar Detector said:

Weideman's lack of possessions would be less of an issue if he applied any sort of pressure when the opposition had the ball. He flew into a few packs which resulted in goals for us but he is a total non event once the ball is on the ground or in opposition hands.

And when he had his chance in the last quarter to kick a goal he bloody misses. 

[Deevout 492]

1 hour ago, Abe said:

Hogan and Lewis have cost us two wins with their stupidity in my opinion.

FWIW, I walked passed Hogan leaving the ground and he looked as ashen faced as me. I am sure he is fully aware of what his undisipled act has cost us. Not cigarette ash btw.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,227]

3 hours ago, A F said:

I wanted to punch something on the way out of the ground. I was that frustrated.

I swear I'm one of the only supporters in the MCC who actually uses their voice. It's supposed to be a home game with 28,000 (mostly) Melbourne supporters and it sounded like a library for the majority of the game. I know we've had some lean years, but I would have thought we'd be a lot louder these days.

Agreed on both counts. Surprised I didn't break the seat next to me when they took the lead back. 

Sick of Melbourne supporters moaning and complaining too. Not in the 3rd or last quarter, but from halfway thru the first. Support the team ffs and stop with the "typical Melbourne" rubbish, it's pathetic 

[Deevout 492]

Garlett has improved out of sight by putting team first and continually using his pace to put enourmous forward pressure on when we are not in possession in our forward 50 which was often lacking last season.

Leadership, I thought Watts has shown it in the 4 games so far this season and gets little credit for it. My only disappointment was in the 2nd Q not giving off to Hannah for the shot on goal that he took kicking around his body. 

We cannot have quarters like the 3rd and seriously challenge for finals. Another game we should have won but managed to lose.

i hope Pedo and Brayshaw have good games for Casey as we are running out of options at selection. 

Edited April 15, 2017 by Deevout

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Does Petracca need a spell at Casey?

[Rob Mac...... 638]

We'd have won the last 2 games with someone half decent instead of Sam Weideman. 

5 posessions today, 4 last week, missing marks, weak at ground level, missed a gimme goal after his free kick in Q4.  Looks uncomfortable and unconfident. 

Their final goal came after a Weideman turnover.  He must be dropped.

Very frustrated here folks.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I certainly don't expect Weideman to be like Hogan was in his first/second year.

But there's dominant, and then there's OK, or even acceptable.

I don't want anyone in our forward line who has no ability (whether because they're not fit enough or otherwise) to impact the game once the ball hits the ground.

He might learn from Hogan but if we lose games as a result then that's not the right decision.

Of course, we're 2-0 with Hogan and Weideman and 0-2 without Hogan. But IMO he's just not capable of doing enough when the ball hits the ground to warrant remaining in the team.

His lack of passion worries me. Look at Hogan when hes not having a big day....he runs up the ground, abuses his team mates, takes a mark or lays a tackle. I hope Weids was told to stay put because he made no effort to tackle or go and get the ball.

[loges 6,767]

Make the 8? We have coughed up 8 points we should have won in the past 2 weeks, it is a very even season. No doubt we will claw our way into contention at some stage only to lose to a side we are heavily favoured to beat. You can see it coming a mile away