Daw, Vickery or Holmes?

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,826]

1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Before seening your post, I suggested that we should play Spencer for Dawes against Hawthorn for these reasons.  I also don't think it's good for Max's longevity for him to [censored] himself every week, usually against two opposition talls/rucks.

Gee the moderators are being a bit touchy today!

FYI:

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flɒɡ/

verb

1. 1.

   beat (someone) with a whip or stick as a punishment.

   "the men had been flogged and branded on the forehead"

   synonyms:

   whip, scourge, flagellate, lash, birch,switch, tan, strap, belt, cane, thrash,beat, leather, tan/whip someone's hide, give someone a hiding, beat the living daylights out of "the Romans used to [censored] their victims"
2. 2.

   BRITISHinformal

   sell or offer for sale.

   "he made a fortune flogging beads to hippies"
3.  

noun

BRITISHinformal

1. 1.

   an arduous climb or struggle.

   "a long [censored] up the mountainside"

    

    

    I would certainly not use the word in the other crude context, regarding our champion, legend and allround top bloke Gawn Dog.

    

   I know the moderators have an important job to do and apprciate their good work, but it's not communist Russia and please think about the context of the word being used with regards to it's meaning in the English language.

[chook fowler 19,459]

2 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Gee the moderators are being a bit touchy today!

FYI:

[censored]

flɒɡ/

verb

1. 1.

   beat (someone) with a whip or stick as a punishment.

   "the men had been flogged and branded on the forehead"

   synonyms:

   whip, scourge, flagellate, lash, birch,switch, tan, strap, belt, cane, thrash,beat, leather, tan/whip someone's hide, give someone a hiding, beat the living daylights out of "the Romans used to [censored] their victims"

    
2. 2.

   BRITISHinformal

   sell or offer for sale.

   "he made a fortune flogging beads to hippies"
3.  

noun

BRITISHinformal

1. 1.

   an arduous climb or struggle.

   "a long [censored] up the mountainside"

    

    

    I would certainly not use the word in the other crude context, regarding our champion, legend and allround top bloke Gawn Dog.

    

   I know the moderators have an important job to do and apprciate their good work, but it's not communist Russia and please think about the context of the word being used with regards to it's meaning in the English language.

I'm sure BBO would agree. Flogging is his favourite pastime.

[Pennant St Dee 13,173]

Darcy Cameron as a late draft pick?

[Moonshadow 17,676]

4 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

Looks like Tartan plays like Jane.

Does he wear a kilt on the ground?

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

29 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I'm sure BBO would agree. Flogging is his favourite pastime.

I do have one or two other ways to while away idle moments chook.

[chook fowler 19,459]

8 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I do have one or two other ways to while away idle moments chook.

Details please

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

Daw - with Waite going down, will likely play finals this year and take Petrie's spot in the North side in 2017

Vickery - free agent who is a tall forward who gets it 6 times a game and is a lovely kick but can't ruck effectively

Holmes - an American who is another failed experiment at breeding a non-footballer into one

 

Daw gets my vote of the three, but would rather not have any.

Edited August 4, 2016 by DemonAndrew

[old dee 23,791]

14 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I'd choose... none.

We are in total agreement Wiseblood.

[beelzebub 23,376]

17 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Jake Spencer is better than all three of them.  In fact I reckon the Spencil is a bit underrated.

He's a really good vfl player Pet. Nothing more nothing less.

His window at Dees is closing.

[Josh 1,420]

Am I the only one who sees something in Vickery?

 

Maybe it's the Foward/Ruck (in that order) I'm in love with

[John Demonic 5,796]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

Am I the only one who sees something in Vickery?

 

Maybe it's the Foward/Ruck (in that order) I'm in love with

I think everyone has the same fantasy about a ruck/forward clunking marks and kicking bags every game and then filling in for the ruck. But it never really happens at any club. Rarely anyway.

Edited August 4, 2016 by johndemons

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,826]

28 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

He's a really good vfl player Pet. Nothing more nothing less.

His window at Dees is closing.

Yes, but if Gawn gets an injury, I think Pencil is the most likely back-up we have on hand at the moment - I don't think Dawes, Peddo or Watts could ever ruck out whole games.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,861]

12 minutes ago, Josh said:

Am I the only one who sees something in Vickery?

 

Maybe it's the Foward/Ruck (in that order) I'm in love with

Neither of which he is really any good at. Vickery is not the answer to any deficiency we (may not even) have. 

Edited August 4, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[John Demonic 5,796]

Would Vickery be worth a year if he was used as a tactical pinch hitter that could play around 6 to 8 games and kick 10-15 goals ? Seems like more of a list contribution than having players in the VFL all year. Prefer an injury free dud than an injury riddled dud

Edited August 4, 2016 by johndemons

[Josh 1,420]

14 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Neither of which he is really any good at. Vickery is not the answer to any deficiency we (may not even) have. 

No he isn't very good at either, but neither was Jack Watts 3 years ago.

 

I just think we could find a place and do worse than have him as a back up in the VFL. 

 

I would take Vickery over either of our Kings

[TheoX 1,222]

No, non, nein.

[Grapeviney 9,721]

Can't stand Vickery. 

The only time his name should ever be mentioned on Demonland is in the Jack Viney Made Me Cry thread. 

[Little Goffy 14,546]

Daw, ok, but not really interested.

Vickery, nope nope nope.

Holmes... well, not the best actress but maybe she can ruck.

[What 18,810]

9 hours ago, beelzebub said:

He's a really good vfl player Pet. Nothing more nothing less.

His window at Dees is closing.

I've never seen him disgrace himself at AFL level though.

When he plays he is serviceable, and his second efforts and physicality are first rate. Sure he has limitations but if Gawn ever gets rested,  Spencil would come in and give us a contest at the very least.

[monoccular 17,429]

On 3 August 2016 at 10:27 PM, Adzman said:

Would rather try and pluck a skinny 18yo kid in the 3rd or 4th round of the draft and see if they can cut it 3 years later.

 

On 4 August 2016 at 7:46 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Which is pretty much what we have done the past several drafts with the two Kings and perhaps Hullet to a small extent.

I haven't seen Hulett play, but skinny is one thing he is not.

[daisycutter 29,616]

12 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Holmes... well, not the best actress but maybe she can ruck.

spelling mistake there, lg?

[The Dr 51]

Would much rather aim higher and go for GWS' Rory Lobb. Contested marking marking and can do a decent job in the ruck. Out of contract in 2017, so we'd have to pay a fair bit to get him.

Edited August 5, 2016 by The Dr

[junk 342]

zilch.

[Dante 2,739]

On 3 August 2016 at 10:12 PM, beelzebub said:

Daw needs proper mentoring and coaching. The raw talent is there. Nth have no idea what to do with him. 

I could help them out, if they're looking for suggestions. 

[Dante 2,739]

On 3 August 2016 at 10:41 PM, Bombay Airconditioning said:

There's nothing stupid about it.

I simply ask why all of the justifications thrown up over the years for the above mentioned aren't forwarded to Daw. Why doesn't he deserve this same luxury, because he doesn't play for us?

Like it or not Daw has potential. 

Im happy to wait until Daws career is over we compare them.

 

I'll give you a clue, Grimes has captained an AFL club and Daw is a reserve grade player at best.