The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

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3 minutes ago, JTR said:

For what its worth...

Some random who said he has inside sources at the pies just called SEN and claimed magpies talking to Jesse. Something going on between Jesse/coaches... etc

 

 

Pies have nothing we'd want unless we swap for Moore.

[Demons11 6,412]

38 minutes ago, JTR said:

For what its worth...

Some random who said he has inside sources at the pies just called SEN and claimed magpies talking to Jesse. Something going on between Jesse/coaches... etc

 

 

This is by far the worst rumour I have ever heard.  

[Deestroy All 14,262]

Straight swap for Jesse White.

[Mach5 4,499]

Surely we'd want them to throw in the ghost of Travis Cloke also?

[Ted Lasso 17,318]

On 8/8/2016 at 5:54 PM, schmuttt said:

Pies have nothing we'd want unless we swap for Moore.

Given they have no first rounders for the next couple of years if there was even the slightest bit of truth to this rubbish rumour i'd want Treloar or Sidebottom and Moore

[Wells 11 5,007]

19 hours ago, Grand New Flag said:

This morning I read some of the previous 6 pages. I simply cannot understand some of the posters on here.  Some of you take yourselves and life way to seriously. Some of you clearly spend too much time on your computers and need to get out and enjoy your lives.

 

 

 

Over the years I have presented Demonland with numerous scoops. Roos after round 3 2014, Mitch Clark playing on but leaving Dees (I think I broke this to the press) etc. Each one has been met with skepticism by many.  I have given inside on some of the MFC trade targets, some have happened some have not. The sources have been various people in the club and player agents (I am close friends with 3).  Demonlander’s are free to believe what I write, believe it is BS or believe I simply play the odds or link the dots (sometimes I do link the dots and then look to confirm).  What you believe I don’t care, either believe it or dismiss it, but the social media movement of randoms heavily, aggressively criticising other randoms for posting info on a rumor blog is extraordinary and a poor reflection on the aggressor. Seriously!

 

 

 

Now back to Jesse Hogan. I once again confirm my previous statement; he has informed the club he wants to play-on as a Dee. Contract negotiations have begun (or will shortly begin). He will sign a new contract with the Dees.  If my info is wrong I will leave Demonland forever.  I am sure that in the coming weeks the Club will inform the media of this development.

 

 

 

So you keyboard haters, be my guest, waste your time cross examining every word, knock yourselves out with another 6 pages of dribble, its entertaining to me.

 

GNF there's so many on here that really enjoy your updates. Im one of them.  Especially when they're positive like this one! Dont let the haters drive you away. This site would def  lose something if you went. Things can change and If you're wrong, you're wrong. 

[Biffen 12,567]

19 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Premier League with Salem

Indigenous matters with Nev

Haircuts with Bernie Vince

Please stop.

[Satyriconhome 10,091]

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Please stop.

Nah, don't think so, do you?

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

14 hours ago, JTR said:

For what its worth...

Some random who said he has inside sources at the pies just called SEN and claimed magpies talking to Jesse. Something going on between Jesse/coaches... etc

 

 

Shortly after that, I think it was Daniel Harford who said a text had been received which said it was noted that when the team sang the song JH was in the background looking anything but happy.  Reading too much into things I suspect.  He probably wasn't happy because he wasn't out there on the day.  But I have looked at the footage on the MFC website and I can't pick it up.  Anybody else notice?

[Grimes Times 1,278]

15 hours ago, JTR said:

For what its worth...

Some random who said he has inside sources at the pies just called SEN and claimed magpies talking to Jesse. Something going on between Jesse/coaches... etc

 

 

Same guy rang 3AW last night with the same crap and now just read the same script calling in to KB.

[nutbean 8,837]

Where there's smoke there's cod fish

[Akum 2,660]

17 hours ago, JTR said:

For what its worth...

Some random who said he has inside sources at the pies just called SEN and claimed magpies talking to Jesse. Something going on between Jesse/coaches... etc

 

 

I heard this too, and I think it's worth clarifying. The caller said he had "intel" from inside the club and that, among other things, they were going to make an approach to Jesse Hogan. He didn't say that talks had already taken place.

This was in the context of KB & Patrick Smith saying that the situation at Collingwood had been overshadowed by the Brisbane & Richmond goings-on, and that now that Hardwick seems safe and Leppa is gone, the blowtorch will now go on to Buckley at Collingwood. This prompted a few outraged calls from fans defending Buckley.

This called who said he had 'intel' was more trying to placate the irate fans by saying that issues were being faced internally. His first point was how much the drugs thing had disrupted the entire club for many weeks early in the season, and that they were discussions about getting the players to sign statements that they would not use recreational drugs in the off-season.

I thought the mention of Hogan was to give the impression that the club was aware of their on-field weaknesses and were seeking to remedy them, even if it meant going for a big target like Hogan. It was a sort of "magic pill" delusion of "if we had someone like Jesse Hogan, we'd be a lot better and Bucks would be safe and everything would turn out fine" that would paper over all their other problems.

In fact, PS, who had been very critical of Bucks's record and had had a heated argument with an earlier caller, did back off and say that setting their sights on someone like Hogan was the right thing to do, although he also said he had no idea why someone like Hogan would want to go anywhere near Collingwood just when Melbourne were looking so good.

He definitely did not say that talks had already taken place.

[TRIGON 4,723]

23 hours ago, DubDee said:

thanks GNF for the info.

must be just petty jealously that brings out the nasty, pathetic remarks.  Now idea why people cant just take your info for what it is and move on.

hope you keep posting

Agree with the sentiment. Just hope it all pans out as predicted GNF.

[Gator 16,921]

24 minutes ago, Akum said:

I heard this too, and I think it's worth clarifying. The caller said he had "intel" from inside the club and that, among other things, they were going to make an approach to Jesse Hogan. He didn't say that talks had already taken place.

This was in the context of KB & Patrick Smith saying that the situation at Collingwood had been overshadowed by the Brisbane & Richmond goings-on, and that now that Hardwick seems safe and Leppa is gone, the blowtorch will now go on to Buckley at Collingwood. This prompted a few outraged calls from fans defending Buckley.

This called who said he had 'intel' was more trying to placate the irate fans by saying that issues were being faced internally. His first point was how much the drugs thing had disrupted the entire club for many weeks early in the season, and that they were discussions about getting the players to sign statements that they would not use recreational drugs in the off-season.

I thought the mention of Hogan was to give the impression that the club was aware of their on-field weaknesses and were seeking to remedy them, even if it meant going for a big target like Hogan. It was a sort of "magic pill" delusion of "if we had someone like Jesse Hogan, we'd be a lot better and Bucks would be safe and everything would turn out fine" that would paper over all their other problems.

In fact, PS, who had been very critical of Bucks's record and had had a heated argument with an earlier caller, did back off and say that setting their sights on someone like Hogan was the right thing to do, although he also said he had no idea why someone like Hogan would want to go anywhere near Collingwood just when Melbourne were looking so good.

He definitely did not say that talks had already taken place.

Someone who can accurately report what was actually said.  Congrats.

[demonoid 317]

33 minutes ago, Akum said:

I heard this too, and I think it's worth clarifying. The caller said he had "intel" from inside the club and that, among other things, they were going to make an approach to Jesse Hogan. He didn't say that talks had already taken place.

This was in the context of KB & Patrick Smith saying that the situation at Collingwood had been overshadowed by the Brisbane & Richmond goings-on, and that now that Hardwick seems safe and Leppa is gone, the blowtorch will now go on to Buckley at Collingwood. This prompted a few outraged calls from fans defending Buckley.

This called who said he had 'intel' was more trying to placate the irate fans by saying that issues were being faced internally. His first point was how much the drugs thing had disrupted the entire club for many weeks early in the season, and that they were discussions about getting the players to sign statements that they would not use recreational drugs in the off-season.

I thought the mention of Hogan was to give the impression that the club was aware of their on-field weaknesses and were seeking to remedy them, even if it meant going for a big target like Hogan. It was a sort of "magic pill" delusion of "if we had someone like Jesse Hogan, we'd be a lot better and Bucks would be safe and everything would turn out fine" that would paper over all their other problems.

In fact, PS, who had been very critical of Bucks's record and had had a heated argument with an earlier caller, did back off and say that setting their sights on someone like Hogan was the right thing to do, although he also said he had no idea why someone like Hogan would want to go anywhere near Collingwood just when Melbourne were looking so good.

He definitely did not say that talks had already taken place.

He muttered something on sen last night about hogan being upset with the club and it having something to do with family issues. 

[Willmoy1947 3,871]

If there is any truth in things going on at the moment in regard to mood and movement, in my opinion it would not be impossible to see players who at present occupy opposite ends of the ground being traded. therein lies mutual benefit and AFL(bless their little hearts) satisfaction.

[Little Richard 5,943]

It would be ignorant to assume that it would just be Fremantle trying to court Hogan anyway. His manager would be receiving plenty of approaches.

[Undeeterred 2,908]

1 hour ago, Akum said:

I heard this too, and I think it's worth clarifying. The caller said he had "intel" from inside the club and that, among other things, they were going to make an approach to Jesse Hogan. He didn't say that talks had already taken place.

This was in the context of KB & Patrick Smith saying that the situation at Collingwood had been overshadowed by the Brisbane & Richmond goings-on, and that now that Hardwick seems safe and Leppa is gone, the blowtorch will now go on to Buckley at Collingwood. This prompted a few outraged calls from fans defending Buckley.

This called who said he had 'intel' was more trying to placate the irate fans by saying that issues were being faced internally. His first point was how much the drugs thing had disrupted the entire club for many weeks early in the season, and that they were discussions about getting the players to sign statements that they would not use recreational drugs in the off-season.

I thought the mention of Hogan was to give the impression that the club was aware of their on-field weaknesses and were seeking to remedy them, even if it meant going for a big target like Hogan. It was a sort of "magic pill" delusion of "if we had someone like Jesse Hogan, we'd be a lot better and Bucks would be safe and everything would turn out fine" that would paper over all their other problems.

In fact, PS, who had been very critical of Bucks's record and had had a heated argument with an earlier caller, did back off and say that setting their sights on someone like Hogan was the right thing to do, although he also said he had no idea why someone like Hogan would want to go anywhere near Collingwood just when Melbourne were looking so good.

He definitely did not say that talks had already taken place.

Much more helpful.

Collingwood can hypothesise all they want, but they don't make sense as a destination for Hogan. 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,965]

30 minutes ago, demonoid said:

He muttered something on sen last night about hogan being upset with the club and it having something to do with family issues. 

I'm sure moving 0.5km west will help his Perth family issues

[AzzKikA 2,371]

23 hours ago, nutbean said:

The issue many have is they don't read what is written - It is a comprehension problem - if you read what GNF originally wrote - "it could take up to 6 months".

Then you are tying this to the next statement as if it is a contradiction  " in the coming weeks the Club will inform the media of this development". 

The only thing that not one will argue with is that until the ink is dry on the contract nothing is confirmed. (again - you will note that GNF has not confirmed that a contract has been signed - he was confirming what Hogan has told the club)

  

This says to me the development is not of the signing, but of his decision to stay.

[mo64 5,280]

I've got no doubt that several clubs would be discussing how to target Hogan, just as we did with Dangerfield. We were never a chance of getting Dangerfield, but unless you shake the trees, you never know what will fall out.

The one factor that everyone keeps bringing up is the potential of our list compared to other clubs like Collingwood or Fremantle. If Hogan has any reasons for wanting to leave Melbourne, he'd see himself as being capable of changing the fortunes of the club that he chooses, so IMO, it's a non issue. We just need to keep Jesse happy on all fronts.

 

[Undeeterred 2,908]

6 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I've got no doubt that several clubs would be discussing how to target Hogan, just as we did with Dangerfield. We were never a chance of getting Dangerfield, but unless you shake the trees, you never know what will fall out.

The one factor that everyone keeps bringing up is the potential of our list compared to other clubs like Collingwood or Fremantle. If Hogan has any reasons for wanting to leave Melbourne, he'd see himself as being capable of changing the fortunes of the club that he chooses, so IMO, it's a non issue. We just need to keep Jesse happy on all fronts.

 

He's got a snowball's chance in hell of getting a kick at Fremantle, our delivery will be 1000% better over the next five years.

[mo64 5,280]

1 minute ago, Undeeterred said:

He's got a snowball's chance in hell of getting a kick at Fremantle, our delivery will be 1000% better over the next five years.

You just confirmed my point. The best player in the AFL last year in Fyfe, plus Mundy, Neale, Walters, S. Hill and probably B. Hill is not a shabby midfield. If Hogan wanted to go to Freo, he'd have a better understanding of their list than you.

[Bossdog 2,002]

Seeing he is contracted until the end of the 2017 season......I don't see what the panic is all about

[nutbean 8,837]

21 minutes ago, mo64 said:

We were never a chance of getting Dangerfield, but unless you shake the trees, you never know what will fall out.

 

Spot on - Footy Ops managers meet with player managers regularly to discuss their players from their clubs. Player managers usually manage more than one player and you can bet that names from opposition clubs are always discussed - "is such and such happy ? interested in a move ? we are interested" - 95% of the inquiries will go nowhere.  You don't know the answer if you don't ask the question.