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11 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

I'd keep Hogan at all costs. He is our franchise player. 

Not at all costs, but agree he's super important.

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Just now, johndemons said:

Fyfe for a 40 goal a year player with "potential" - I highly doubt anyone in their rational mind would trade Fyfe for that.

 

Just now, Demons11 said:

They wouldn't trade the best player in the comp 

Well then they'll have to come up with something pretty bloody good, as Fyfe or Neale are the only players on their list who we would be interested in.  

And John - Hogan has shown far more than just 'potential'.  He's easily one of, if not the, best young tall forward in the comp.  They don't grow on trees.

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Minimum: Their first round pick and Lachie Neale this year as well as their first round pick next year in exchange for our second round pick of that year.

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Just now, TheoX said:

Neale was shite with a tag on him barely got it. Steak knives at best.

So one game cancels out the previous 10?  The bloke is a gun and you know it.  Viney has been tagged out of games this year, would you consider him steak knives at best?

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3 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Neale was shite with a tag on him barely got it. Steak knives at best.

Viney also can't break a tag yet. With more players shouldering the load, it means team's cannot afford to tag any one player. Neale alongside Prestia and Viney would be a small but amazing contested ball team with pace on the outside too.

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No joke I read the lips of Hogan and a brisbane player after the siren with the camera close up - brissie player asked what are you doing next year ? Hogan - theyd better show me some money . 

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Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I hear freo are putting together a massive package to try seal the Hogan deal.

Its understood Mzungu, De Boar, Clancy Pearce and Zac Clark may all be in the mix. We'd have to throw in a sweetner to seal the deal.

Done deal for me if we can squeeze Jack Hannath in there as well....

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15 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I hear freo are putting together a massive package to try seal the Hogan deal.

Its understood Mzungu, De Boar, Clancy Pearce and Zac Clark may all be in the mix. We'd have to throw in a sweetner to seal the deal.

So, 4 players not in their current best 22 for our best player? Remember, not in their best 22 when they are 2-not many

It would have to be 2, top 10 players on their list for our best.

Lets hope he signs over the bye weeks.

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15 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

So, 4 players not in their current best 22 for our best player? Remember, not in their best 22 when they are 2-not many

 

You took the post way too seriously

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38 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I hear freo are putting together a massive package to try seal the Hogan deal.

Its understood Mzungu, De Boar, Clancy Pearce and Zac Clark may all be in the mix. We'd have to throw in a sweetner to seal the deal.

Let's throw in T.Mac if they're prepared to add Zac Dawson to the package. We need a quality user in our backline.

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Interesting. On the Couch ask each weekly guest whether they'd pick Stringer or Hogan. I've only watched it some of the time but no one's picked Hogan since I've watched it. Hopefully this sort of feedback from the industry will temper any out of control demands. Assuming we will end up in contract negotiation mode. 

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On 6/12/2016 at 6:47 PM, AdamFarr said:

Not at all costs, but agree he's super important.

The more I watch us improve the more I think Hogan staying is important. Him staying is a big statement about us being a destination club. If he leaves after this improvement then it will raise some questions in the minds of others. That being said i think he will sign on for another 3 to 5 years to repay the club then leave after that contract in a Dangerfield-esque style of deal. 

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43 minutes ago, It's Time said:

Interesting. On the Couch ask each weekly guest whether they'd pick Stringer or Hogan. I've only watched it some of the time but no one's picked Hogan since I've watched it. Hopefully this sort of feedback from the industry will temper any out of control demands. Assuming we will end up in contract negotiation mode. 

The best thing is we have Hogan and I reckon a bloke that will be better than Stringer in Petracca

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It's taken 3 years to climb from last to the edge of the 8.

Realistically it will be 2-3 more years to reach the pinnacle, then 3+ years to try and snag a few flags. 

If Hogans up for it he'd be looking at 5+ years. 

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I was never on board the "let's throw everything at him bus". He just would hang his head at times and I doubted his temperament.
However, I thought he played one of his best games for us on the weekend. His work rate from one end of the field to the other was superb and I'm now on board the bus!
We don't need midfielders, we need Hogan as we get cracking towards a flag.

 

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Do I want Hogan to stay? Yes. At any price? No. We are heading down the road of top clubs that have to try and keep all their stars or emerging stars yet balance the books. Given the professional nature of the game and particularly player managers and indeed the attitude of the players, and in Hogans case, the go home factor a la Scott Thompson of the Crows, I think that if the Freo deal is big enough, Hogan will go. Team success and mateship is one thing but these days the dollar is the single most persuasive factor. I will be deeply disappointed if he goes but also philosophical about it and who can blame the player. Money and family comes before the club. One set of mates is replaced by another set of mates. We need to get used to the idea that we are going to lose some of our players this way. That's why the on-going task of recruiting and developing players becomes so important. Like other successful clubs, if you develop a champion team, the loss of a star becomes less important ( Franklin and Dangerfield).

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Hogan was huge yesterday attracting 2 sometime three players causing a spill then a possesion and goal . Measure able as a score involvment im not sure but super important. Valuable player .  

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