Dom Tyson has to be dropped (Rd 1)

[DeeSpencer 26,495]

Just now, Sylvia Saint said:

90% of the game's really good midfielders would have hit 3/3 or 2/3 of the chances he had in front of goal today. He fluffed all of them which must be demoralising for the team (it certainly is for the fans!). Thank God BenKen was running past him for the last one or it would have been 0/4.

Won't be dropped though, at least he found the footy and he had a dip.

Patrick Dangerfield must be in the 10% then given his misses last week. Tyson isn't a good kick, but doesn't usually have issues kicking for goal. Hopefully he sorts it out.

[McQueen 17,867]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

With the ball he wasn't that bad today aside from missing 3 goals (which was 2 really as the 3rd miss was a follow up to the 2nd). Defensively he was part of a midfield that had rings run around it. And maybe as the slowest member of that midfield he is most to blame. But the blame should be shared.

I don't think he's getting dropped any time soon. But he'll need to go to half forward more and someone else with some speed will likely have to take up some midfield minutes. 

Tyson was better than Viney and Oliver today.

Viney and Oliver were good last week.

[DeeSpencer 26,495]

Just now, McQueen said:

Viney and Oliver were good last week.

They were great last week, poor this week. Tyson was poor last week, ok this week. 

The point is I doubt he's getting dropped.

[Ted Lasso 19,568]

I rate Dom, yes he is making some silly mistakes, but he's certainly not alone there, but at least he's getting the ball. 

[KingDingAling 3,758]

I am not his greatest fan, but he was far from our worst today.

[goodwindees 2,586]

Tyson ain't getting dropped next week, probably not even the week after, however, at least we have established that he wasn't a part of the greatest trade of all time as many on this Forum have touted. 

All I've pointed out is that he is slow, one sided and poor by foot. Might be B Grade at absolute best if he can improve some weaknesses.  GWS knew which one to let go, and unfortunately they have also offloaded another NQR in Bugg.

 

 

[chook fowler 19,735]

He will stay in the side for now but he may be competing with Trenners for his spot very soon. He can't miss goals like he did today as a senior midfielder.

[Adam The God 30,644]

Cannot believe the knives out for Dom. Seriously. He can be slow to react and his skills sometimes suffer as a result (remembering he's a bloke that plays in an area of the ground where the pressure is at its highest), but I think some of our supporters are getting ahead of themselves if they think he's not good enough or deserved of being dropped. Still one of our most promising midfielders. The guy has had an injury-riddled start to his career, but he can find the football and at his best has shown he's a goal kicking midfielder. Something we severely lack.

Further, he had the third most disposals for a Demon behind Jones and Vince. Cut him a bit of slack. Particularly, when there are other blokes running around barely touching the pill.

[Adam The God 30,644]

14 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

He will stay in the side for now but he may be competing with Trenners for his spot very soon. He can't miss goals like he did today as a senior midfielder.

Disagree. Trenners is competing with Matt Jones and/or Salem, IMO. I don't believe Trenners is an out and out inside mid either. He's a winger or half back/half forward, who can play through the middle.

[dazzledavey36 55,992]

Didn't butcher it during field play like he did a couple of times last week but jeez he just had to kick those..Same with Brayshaw.

He wont get dropped.

[rolling fog 1,208]

16 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

Cannot believe the knives out for Dom. Seriously. He can be slow to react and his skills sometimes suffer as a result (remembering he's a bloke that plays in an area of the ground where the pressure is at its highest), but I think some of our supporters are getting ahead of themselves if they think he's not good enough or deserved of being dropped. Still one of our most promising midfielders. The guy has had an injury-riddled start to his career, but he can find the football and at his best has shown he's a goal kicking midfielder. Something we severely lack.

Further, he had the third most disposals for a Demon behind Jones and Vince. Cut him a bit of slack. Particularly, when there are other blokes running around barely touching the pill.

Preach 

[jmac 9]

OK m8s.

Dom was woefully bad yesterday, and not much better the week before. He got a few touches, sure, but were they effective? He hasn't had a significant impact on a game since his first season with us. He gets a free pass because he speaks well -- but he shouldn't be talking to the media about next week when he's had a stinker. It's like fingernails down a chalkboard to me. 

Here's a list of players who were better than Tyson yesterday, in no particular order:

Lumumba, Pedersen, Kennedy, Vince, Jetta, Salem, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jones x2, Hogan, Garlett, Bugg, Viney, Watts

(FWIW in my view our worst were McDonald, Gawn, Garland, Kent, vandenBerg, Tyson)

For what we paid for him, he should be in our top 10. He's in his fifth season, his third with us, and his stats are going backwards.  

He is 100% deserving of a critical eye in my book. At the moment he's a passenger.

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,311]

20 minutes ago, jmac said:

OK m8s.

Dom was woefully bad yesterday, and not much better the week before. He got a few touches, sure, but were they effective? He hasn't had a significant impact on a game since his first season with us. He gets a free pass because he speaks well -- but he shouldn't be talking to the media about next week when he's had a stinker. It's like fingernails down a chalkboard to me. 

Here's a list of players who were better than Tyson yesterday, in no particular order:

Lumumba, Pedersen, Kennedy, Vince, Jetta, Salem, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jones x2, Hogan, Garlett, Bugg, Viney, Watts

(FWIW in my view our worst were McDonald, Gawn, Garland, Kent, vandenBerg, Tyson)

For what we paid for him, he should be in our top 10. He's in his fifth season, his third with us, and his stats are going backwards.  

He is 100% deserving of a critical eye in my book. At the moment he's a passenger.

Agree he is out of form but he was nowhere near our worst yesterday, you are kidding yourself if you think Hogan, Watts n Brayshaw were better.

[jmac 9]

57 minutes ago, Hell Bent said:

Agree he is out of form but he was nowhere near our worst yesterday, you are kidding yourself if you think Hogan, Watts n Brayshaw were better.

The whole argument that "he's not as bad as so-and-so" is bunk when he is consistently average or worse every week.

Hogan and Watts won it for us last week, and provided spark at the beginning of the 4th yesterday. Brayshaw is a kid coming back from injury (too early, by the sounds) and given that, at least he tried his arse off. Also realise that you are pointing the finger at two players in their second season ahead of Tyson. That is insane.

Trying is not good enough from Tyson. If he's out of form, like you say, and we (apparently) have some kind of depth now, why play him?

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,311]

11 minutes ago, jmac said:

The whole argument that "he's not as bad as so-and-so" is bunk when he is consistently average or worse every week.

Hogan and Watts won it for us last week, and provided spark at the beginning of the 4th yesterday. Brayshaw is a kid coming back from injury (too early, by the sounds) and given that, at least he tried his arse off. Also realise that you are pointing the finger at two players in their second season ahead of Tyson. That is insane.

Trying is not good enough from Tyson. If he's out of form, like you say, and we (apparently) have some kind of depth now, why play him?

Pointing he finger?.....i was replying to your comment that they were better than Tyson yesterday.

They weren't.

[What 18,810]

Lazy, lacks urgency, sloppy skills.

WIll be out of the side soon if he doesnt get serious about his footy.

[leucopogon 1,519]

Needs to work on bursting away from congestion. He'll often hesitate or take a second or third option resulting in him either getting caught or rushed with his possessions.

The missed set shots on Saturday were infuriating, but at least he found himself in scoring positions.

His work in traffic is sublime at times, the other half of the time its TMac-like and absolutely momentum destroying. In summary, he's inconsistent (a perfect fit for this club).

[H_T 3,049]

BUMP

Quite rightly in our best 22 Dom Tyson.

Gawn & Viney may have the spotlight at present, but this guys game was fantastic v Richmond Sunday night.

 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,274]

Looks to have regained his earlier form and some. With Viney stepping up and having some other support coming through it's probably taken the heat off Tyson when it comes to attention from the opposition.

We desperately needed midfielders who could kick goals and he's one of them. 

And he has delightful hair.

[jnrmac 20,307]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Looks to have regained his earlier form and some. With Viney stepping up and having some other support coming through it's probably taken the heat off Tyson when it comes to attention from the opposition.

We desperately needed midfielders who could kick goals and he's one of them. 

And he has delightful hair.

Almost the same as yours Ethan....

[Buzzy 992]

Yeah huge plot-twist.  I'm impressed.  I was seriously doubting him a couple of games ago and being a negative b*stard.

He put on a couple of hard tackles early on against Richmond and you could tell he was really switched on - his intensity was fantastic.  And not a single handball to feet!

Good on him.  

 

 

[Dees2014 2,377]

5 minutes ago, H_T said:

BUMP

Quite rightly in our best 22 Dom Tyson.

Gawn & Viney may have the spotlight at present, but this guys game was fantastic v Richmond Sunday night.

 

I admit it I was wrong to start this thread. Tyson was magnificent on Sunday. Will be one of our elite players for the next ten years and next premiership. May it continue.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,274]

4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Almost the same as yours Ethan....

Why thank you. 

It's a Permanent. 

[DeeSpencer 26,495]

3 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

I admit it I was wrong to start this thread. Tyson was magnificent on Sunday. Will be one of our elite players for the next ten years and next premiership. May it continue.

Don't want to even hold the middle ground.

Dropped to elite in a few weeks?

 

[In Harmes Way 7,842]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Why thank you. 

It's a Permanent. 

Your hair or your display of love for Dom?