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Tom Morris reporting the Brown family were unhappy ANB made the debut announcement, when they were promised Kozzie.

I just assumed we stopped training ages ago.

Congratulations Kynan looking forward to seeing you out on the G Saturday night.

Met him He's a lovely young man and he is stoked at being at the club Plays for the jumper. Need more of them.

There is a lot of up side with him, just needs game time and coaching development.

Mate, I'm not going to lie, I'm 6 beers down as well. I lived in Canberra for 4 years, its freezing, I get it

Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere but this weekends match against North is raising money for the BCNA - an amazing organisation that helps women ( and men) and their families during their incredible difficult journey navigating breast cancer. This is a cause very deep to my heart as I lost my beloved mum to breast cancer 8 years ago. If you cannot attend you can purchase a virtual seat.When I looked earlier today only 146 virtual seats have been purchased so they have a long way to go to reach their target of $125,000. i know times are tough for everyone but if you can make a donation you can guarantee it is going to a very good cause. I’m sure many of you will have been affected or had someone close to you affected. Go to pinkladymatch.com.au Go Dees 🩷🩷🩷🩷

I reckon he’s a kid with talent. He just needs time. Sign him up and keep playing him.

I hear Malthouse and Cornes don't rate Brown (trying to get some posts going)

The criticism on here has all the credibility of a plan that involves 7 small nuclear plants being owned by the Government, from a Government that does not want to own things. It's a team game and not everyone is going to be a star. This bloke could be very, very good though. The lad has played under 12 games and shown plenty. Loves the contest, is agile and has plenty of upside. He will never be a target forward, but a good 3rd option - and can swing down back. How many young players do we have that can do that and have his upside? Not many. I'm excited for his future with us.

I am utterly amazed that Petty continues to get gifted games. Baffled.

Great news. He looked very at home at this level in the practice games and had a huge crack (not in the plumber's sense)

Kid who’s shows good potential. flexible and a good mark. Wish he could get a run of games together glad he wants to stay

As a keen punter, I offer the following market: $1.22 - Goody's future $1.80 - hopeless list $2.00 - hopeless recruiting team $2.20 - Kate Roffey $2.50 - kulture $2.80 - midfield $3.00 - Maxy: does his brilliance actually hurt us. $3.20 - loading: should we do more? $3.50 - Pert $4.00 - time to trade tracc, maxy and Oliver for picks and go full rebuild mode

If Bevo brings the Bont and Darcy I'm all for it. If not, jog on son.

This may seem somewhat of a harsh comment, but this neither excites nor frustrates me. Disco staying or going is not going to change the direction we go in.

Bevo the anti Goodwin would be an interesting change, we'd have clarry in a back pocket, andy moniz Wakefield as a key forward and McVee in the ruck

I understand the Petty hate but unless Jeffo is ready, who can come in? BB isn’t the answer.

That was a roaring success

Kevin Sheedy’s portrait is hanging at a gallery in Florence:

Incompetent coaches don't win premierships.

Turns out Goody's fiance is Harry Petty's mum.

That’s 8 players with under 50 games experience, and Bowey at 53, with 10 aged under 23 at the start of this month playing for us Pretty young and inexperienced

Derwayne be hoping like hell it happens. He is near the top of the MFC haters list, even above some on here.

yeah soft as Trac just played on with broken ribs and ruptured spleen not physically or mentally soft, our Trac. He is just able to differentiate during game with pre or post game

I told you what I thought good culture was. As you asked. Is losing gus Brayshaw culture or luck? We wouldn’t have got rid of Jordan or harmes if the timing was different, so there’s luck there. Is losing Jackson to homesickness and immaturity luck or culture? Is petraccas injury luck or culture? Is the Grundy experiment to be applauded for trying or is it to be admonished for not working? Is falling apart in the 22 finals due to injury luck or culture? Is having no forward line in 23 finals after finally finding one luck or culture? what I’m saying is you can’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Like some have discussed regarding our game plan. Maybe we were ok and just needed a few things to go right for us. Maybe we didn’t need to overhaul it and as a result look a bit lost out there. We went from losing by about a goal on average all year to now getting blown out of the water due to trying to play differently and having bad luck (yes I said it) with our midfield this year. Sometimes in chasing results and going on witch hunts you can make things much worse. Only in hindsight can you tell. my main argument is when assessing culture you need to take into account the entirety of your season and seasons to properly understand where you are and how successfully you’ve implemented plans. we carry on about our list sometimes on here and bemoan our depth and whatnot but what could we do about it. We aren’t in a position in the cycle where we can draft top talent because we keep finishing top four. The way I see it with the amount of youth we are blooding is that we are trying a Geelong rebuild on the go style list turnover. That feels like what you are talking about. Except we don’t seem to be able to offer farms to players like they can. Sometimes life is unfair. I could argue you’ve got your head in the sand around the difficulties we’ve faced thus far with the Simon goodwin era. The team who wins the flag is often the one with the least injuries. That’s hasn’t been us. I see it as two phases. Up to 2018 and then post 2018. I see a group who have learnt on the go and developed a formidable game style. For three years we have been the best defensive team in the land by quite some way. That requires planning, buy in, consistent hard work, the right players. Our plan was so good that it’s still the plan that teams play in finals. Is that not good culture. I see us as getting there. Which is all any team is doing. Considering the [censored] I’ve been dealt in my life with this club I am pretty happy with what’s happened since 2018 and I see it as a result of the clubs improved culture amongst high performance and the well being of everyone at the club. when your clubs is struggling the media like to prey on the darkest fears of the supporters. Don’t listen to them. They’ll only ruin you.

We certainly need some energy and enthusiasm within the group so I think this debut is a great call

Fascinating the threads that get preferred ongoing attention to ones like these. Thanks, @DeeZone, and go Pup!

Sounds like an acid trip.

Trent Rivers. If there is a time where you want to see whether someone has what it takes to step up in a midfield role and become a potential star then it has to be Rivers. His trajectory could be very similar to Elliot Yeo when he started out as a half back flanker in his earlier years.

Petition to stop people responding to this thread unless they have a constructive update. Startiiiiiiing... NOW!

The locals presented to the council a petition . They got fobbed of by ceo of council

Goodwin’s explained Tomlinson - Collingwood had a small forward line so we decided to go smaller in our backline.

Perhaps more like a Baldrick 'cunning plan' ?

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Great to see Kynan selected. He has been very good in his 1st season of VFL. Quick and evasive and reads the play well. He sets up play, has goal involvements and kicks a few himself. IMO eventually his ability to read the play will see him excel as a mid. As a forward if the oppo take their eye off him they will pay. His form this year surprised me. I thought a couple more preseasons would get him right for the big time but if you have what it takes then you get rewarded.

Some of these threads are getting stranger by the day.

This is the same Mick Malthouse that recommended Neeld to Lyon when we were looking for a coach. The same Mick Mathouse that destroyed Carltons list and culture when he coached there. I just dont think he's credible enough to take seriously these days.

Not that it would happen, but it would be funny to replace a coach accused of wasting a golden era with another coach accused of wasting a golden era.

Have seen Ah Mu play twice this year and the kid is a beast. Absolute man child who's exactly a need for use being a forward ruckman.

If you’re insinuating I’m woke, you’re off the mark in a massive way but that will give my mates a good laugh. I like Presidents who are seen and not heard, Kennett was all about self promotion same as Koch and I knew an assistant from one of the clubs you were referring too who just wished the president would shut up. I also like leaders who don’t jump to attention and call press conferences to bow to the pressure of the media or Demonlanders who feel the god given right to be spoon fed daily on the inner workings of the club. This place blows up when a story is released about club A and B being into player X and because we aren’t mentioned it means we’re sitting on our hands. As I’ve said on other threads I will hold my judgement to see how we go for the remainder of this season and next.

This year seems to be either the start of a new era for the game in relation to fitness and as a result soft tissue injury or just an anomalous year. Also the weird byes and inconsistencies have meant it’s hard to gauge who’s where. I still don’t trust that Essendon will play finals. As coaches and supporters and others have mentioned, there are strange results and unfair match ups in terms of preparation and breaks leading into games. I think we are also seeing teams who have had a long run go through physical and mental struggles, which is inevitable. Gravity always wins. Us, Brisbane, Collingwood, Geelong. I’m sure gws have one of the best list and game styles but they like us are struggling too. Sydney have had a good list for a while but have been very up and down year to year. We beat them comfortable twice last year. Not a heap has changed on their list. This could be a year where it’s last man standing in terms of fitness at the end of the year, more so than other years. Someone outside the top four seems more possible than usual for the flag.

Best of luck pup, hopefully the first of many and the start of a long career

ANB was going to be traded at the end of 2020 - with no suitors he stayed To say it was part of a masterplan is stretching it

$13.00 the Cup wasn't shiny enough in 2021/didn't win by enough

$5.00 - It all went downhill after Benny Gibson left the club $6.00 - No MFC Club home base

Jee those training photos must have been actioned packed.

I also want LDU but cant see it being til hes out of contract in 2025. Let’s assume LDU agrees to come end of this season what are you willing to give this year whilst he is still in contract that Nolrth will accept. Unless something crazy happens Nth will get a top of band pick for him if he leaves under FA. So to do it a year early it would need to be more than they expect to get the following year to be in their interests.

So rather than reflect on the reason this team has under performed for 5 of the last 6 seasons (and 6 of the last 8 really) and identify where we need to improve as a club to get to the level we want to be, you're willing to write it off as just bad luck? Seems like head in the sand stuff to me, excuses which foster a poor culture. I think the issue is we are looking at culture from different angles. You're looking at it from the point of view of the happiness, for lack of a better word, of the players - their relationships with each other and the coaches. On this measure I think we are quite good, at least that is the commentary in the media from players/ex-players. However I'm looking at culture as the driving force to get the best out of the players/club, a high performance environment that is built for success. On this measure I think our culture isn't great, we don't have the killer instinct needed for sustained success in elite sport. The results speak for themselves, you can blame one year of underperforming on bad luck but you can't blame 75% of the last 8 years or last 4 years on bad luck. There will always be unfortunate variables impacting teams but the good ones roll with the punches and get on with it, they don't make excuses for poor results. Injuries, inaccuracy, weather, opponents, travel, fatigue whatever it is it is just excuses in the long run. And making excuses is weak in my view.

I am so bored by the negativity on this site and general lack of respect shown to fellow DL’s that I find I am no longer enjoying reading the posts on here. Used to luv it, but now find it hard to get enthused to read them. I now resort to looking for favoured posters, but even these are often in battle with others. There are posters on here that I swear only come out of the woodwork when things ain’t so hot, just to sink their boots in. Never hear from them when things are good. I just don’t understand that. [censored] me, it’s just a game.