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Struggling to contain the emotion 🥹😢😭 This '... I’m grateful I still have the opportunity to give it my all again in 2025...' sounds like it could have been really tragic. He is one of life's gentlemen and a great human. Wouldn't wish this on anyone but It is so sad to see this happen to such a guy, a guy who gives his all to his teammates, club and fans. Always with a smile. Love him to bits, 😘Christian.17 points
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Get well soon Trac. In some ways I'm happy its clear he has to take the rest of the year off. He needs to recover fully and rest. A mental break will be good for him too. Play some kids, get an easy draw for next year, draft picks, trades and go again.13 points
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A tragic turn of events. I was hoping that he'd gotten away with a lower grade rupture for his health's sake. This injury has been too real and has gone beyond the question of how long he'll be off the field for, a man's health and future health is at stake. Questions of who is responsible and potential reviews, I'd like to think there will be a time and place for that. It just isn't right now for me, I really hope Christian can make a 100% full recovery. After that box is ticked off I will hope that he can return to playing eventually and getting back to what he does best. We love you mate and we're with you all the way.13 points
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Did @binman write that article? All true though. We are in bad form. We are not as bad as most on demonland think and not as good as binman thinks. Get to finals and be playing our best footy in August and September and that would be good enough for me.10 points
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Why does it always happen to good guys like Trac. Not just a player but a humble champion fella. Great though he will fully recover that more important than a game9 points
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The issue is with Petracca out we've now lost our best player. The positive of this is we are going to find out which players have the leadership skills and mental aptitude to take the club forward. They can't hide behind our best players now.9 points
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Feel for Trac, he has given the club and supporters so much and been pretty selfless when placing his teammates ahead of himself. But let's be honest, the season is done and now is the time for him to rest (assuming reports are true) and come back next year fully healed.9 points
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I'm a big believer that 2023 is up there with 1998 as the biggest missed opportunity of a flag. All the stats in the land had us pretty much the number 1 ranked team of the competition. This is controversial from my end but losing Melksham from our forward line was a bigger loss then Brayshaw. When he went down our forward line lost all its system and leadership. He was the captain we needed up forward to galvanise our set up and then it's he's ability to engage with the number 1 defender to not only take him out of the game but hurt on the scoreboard just completely hurt us. No one will ever change my mind, but absolutely 2023 was the biggest missed opportunity for a flag from our end.9 points
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What difference does it make. We would've missed the target even if we kicked it to him.9 points
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I find it amusing by the amount of medical people on this site and we're in the rooms to give their opinion on his injury, you are complicit for not insisting enough that he should not go back on, Jesus the AFL has ticked it off that should be enough but no demonland go in hysterics without knowing the facts. Hope Trac takes his time to recover.7 points
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"Thankful for all the love and support I’ve received these past few days. While my season may have come to an end, I’m grateful I still have the opportunity to give it my all again in 2025. In the meantime, Ill be cheering the boys on from the sidelines and making some tasty meals in the kitchen" His Insta post7 points
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That doesn’t line up with the narrative that we need to sack the coach, all the assistants, everyone on the board and trade or delist 20 players so can’t be accurate! It obviously hasn’t gone to plan this year on a number of fronts, and Trac going out for an extended period or even the season makes it hard to see us challenging for a flag but I don’t think we’re dead yet. Max, May, TMac and Brown are the only ones pushing retirement. You’d think the first 2 can at least go one more year. The rest have plenty left, and we had 9 players 23yo or younger in the 22 on Monday. We were a full year younger on average than the pies. We can still play finals this year, and even if we don’t I reckon the window is still open next year. edit: I’d also add that the swans played in a GF in 2022, fell to 8th last year and are now favs for the flag. Lions were ~ a goal away from being premiers and are currently 13th. The consistent high level we’ve been at the past 3 years is unusual, and one blip of a year doesn’t mean it’s all over.7 points
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We ended up kicking it to him, but missed the target by 10 metres. It landed on the chest of the saints runner instead. Another turnover.7 points
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Indeed. Except it used to protect the player who was skilful enough to manoeuvre to the front position. A push in the back to a player in the front position, especially in a marking contest used to be illegal and would result in a free kick to the player receiving that push in the back. In the last 5-10 years (approx), the rules have changed and players are actually allowed to place their hands in the back of players in front of them to push out of the way to gain an advantage in a marking contest. This has been exploited by players knowing that within the rules, contact can now be made in the back, and knees are now being allowed into players backs in marking contests. You can't blame players seeking to gain advantage if it is within the rules. The placing of knees and shins has always been allowed in the back and on the shoulder for "species" but more and more - under this lax push in the back rule - it is being allowed for gutless driving of the knees into the backs of opponents to unfairly out-manoeuvre those players who have skilfully obtained front position. Examples of this with tragic injuries have most recently surfaced with Christian Petracca suffering 4 punctured lungs, a lacerated spleen and a hole in his lung. This also occurred with a knee to Stephen May to his ribs earlier this year - although not in a marking contest. This also occurred in 2017 to Melbourne player Tim Smith who suffered a punctured lung from a knee in his back from Tom Lynch in the ANZAC eve clash of that year. We saw the rules for Holding the ball change very quickly when certain coaches complained about Charlie Curnow being allowed to hold the ball and be swing around before being allowed to kick the ball without penalty. I'm hoping that coaches/media/supporters do the same and get outraged about the AFL allowing players to come from behind and drive knees into their opponents backs causing terrible injuries. A speccie, when a player can land on another players shoulders to take a high mark should be preserved. But, a push in the back is a push in the back. A knee in the back is an extreme version of this. Both should return to be illegal and umpires should award an immediate free kick. This will avoid injuries to players who play fairly and stamp out grubs who drive their knees into players backs to gain an unfair advantage in marking contests.7 points
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‘Could miss the rest of the season….?’ Just call it now - let the young man fully recover Ily #CP57 points
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A lot of rubbish in this thread about our medical team. and I hate the pies as much as anyone but Moore did not intend to injure trac. Seriously. Some people need to get a grip.6 points
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Brayshaw was definitely the glue. A selfless player and person. Wonderful leader.6 points
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I don’t think he’s ready, he had an interrupted pre season. He really stepped up last season for Subiaco seniors when given an early taste to the point both he and Kolt were mainstays in the side. Thought he may have been picked up last year but wasn’t. Think with a good pre season he has some potential6 points
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Bye bye 2024, you were trash Sending Trac all the positive healing vibes. I'd give you my spleen if I could!6 points
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I love your optimism Bin, but can’t see it myself. However I’m also aware of the big picture and it’s not all doom and gloom. Our flag tilts long term don’t die with the end of May and Gawn’s career’s as others seem to think.6 points
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As the head of the footy department Alan Richardson is the only person to make a statement re how Trac's injury was handled by the medicos. There is no story here, Trac passed the tests and any club would have cleared him to return to the field in the second quarter. I would be worried if the President starts talking on football matters.6 points
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Richardson said the opposite. Said the Coaches wanted a bit of a statement and Leaders said no. Max our Captain is not an aggressive type and Tracc isn’t either, actually shaking Maynard’s hand and patting his head before the game. Viney may have not got the chance and has a shoulder injury, so maybe wise not to further hurt that. For the rest, they didn’t bother. I am sure Gus and his family would have been impressed, not! The difference in attitude between the sides is apparent, when you look at how they gang tackled Langdon for a lighthearted comment and then the quotes of Maynard that he was surprised he didn’t get any treatment. I don’t think anyone even tackled Maynard during the game. He certainly bumped a few of ours. It appears our game attitude has taken a big hit.5 points
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Lol I’m a blue sky junkie, but this season is clearly boned. I’ve well and truly recalibrated my expectations.5 points
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Good luck Tracc, you are so brave and honourable take care you are so important to so many people.❤️💙😢5 points
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With each passing week, LDU is looking like what we need more and more Go hard Demons5 points
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I am also of the view we won't play finals. Mentally shot, you can see it on the players faces and their efforts on the ground. Bullied by Collingwood twice in a row now, barely gave a yelp physically on Monday Completely gave up for the first time in years vs Fremantle Embarrased by the Eagles I wonder if we've underestimated the losses of Melksham and Hibberd to, in the sense of their leadership and harndess. Could probably add Harmes to that as well. We have no one that plays on the edge now, Viney is to banged up and we've done our best to coach it out of Pickett.5 points
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It was obviously a coaching directive to not go for him, thinking it may cause the players to lose focus. I think it was the wrong call personally, as it would've been a way to get some emotion and energy up in the group. Always easy to judge in hindsight, but it was a pretty limp performance from a physicality perspective.5 points
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His shoulder is absolutely shot. He can barely handle a single knock to it. He’s been playing injured for at least 6 weeks. Before that he was very, very good. If we had more midfield options he’d probably have been rested, but with Gus gone he’s had to keep fronting up when he’s clearly not right.5 points
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It's interesting that since 2021, we have had Max injured, Oliver injured and now Tracca. As much as one wants to be positive, we probably won't see our midfield anywhere near its absolute best. It used to be our biggest weapon. Let's face it Oliver, Tracc, Viney and Gawn at the peak of their powers was a great combo to behold. And we used to cobble together a pretty good fwd line with Tmac, Bbb, Spargo, Anb and Fritta. Kicking 100 points plus didn't seem so hard. And now ( certainly with Lever out, Petty moved forward and May getting older( we can't boast the best backline anymore ). It's another close season ( minus the Swan's) so we will probably stay in touch of the eight but we've come down to one player being injured, determining if we will make them. There's a chance we will break into them but it's the slimmest of slims. Probably likely to cause one or two upsets between now and the finals but imho won't make them. After our SA success, I didn't think I'd witness our decline like this. Top four seemed assured and so soon we are all pretty sure we won't play finals. What a brutal game. When we went out in straight sets in 22, I think I was still distracted by all the success of breaking an over 50 year drought. Last year, I was gutted. It was really bad luck on the fwd injury front. Especially when Milkshake had really stepped up. I know we would have won with Jake and Gus. Quite convincingly. This time the smoke from the whole Maynard event distracted me. And now with what's happened to us in the last six weeks, I've settled back into seeing things more clearly again. It's just so incredibly hard to win premierships. After 56 years of absence, one would think that fact is seared into my frontal lobes. It doesn't take much to derail a flag chance. Like last year with Jake's Knee and Maynards agro, a while years sweat and tears are erased away in a week The problem is We've tasted success and we realise how wonderful it is. I just wish watching the 21 GF replay hadn't lost most of its magic for me. I think the hardest thing to accept is not seeing a flag in person at the MCG. I was really thinking I would be attending one with this list winning more than just one. The whole COVID thing doesn't lessen our flag to me in the slightest. I just so wanted to see one not through a TV camera. It's definitely not going to happen this year and I doubt if it will in the next few. I'm past blaming players and trying to work out where the club went wrong. For me it's about accepting that the window is closed but that we need to get back to making a new one pronto.5 points
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Will someone from the club just speak to the media so I feel better!!??5 points
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Hopefully Trac's recovery runs smoothly and his spleen fully recovers. Based on a recovery time of 2 - 2.5 months for a spleen to fully heal and return to full contact and that Trac will need to be off legs for at least the first 4 weeks before being able to perform light aerobic activity, I cannot see him being able to be available for senior footy for at least 10 weeks. Pencil him in for round 24 when we play Collingwood for a top 4 spot or put him on ice if come round 24 we are ruled out of challenging in finals. The upside to all of this is that our entire team that has become too reliant on Trac will need to lift significantly if we are to challenge in September. Regardless of where we end up this season we will learn alot about our list and ability to adapt to our tweaked game style. Dees!5 points
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet but the Coll player on Trac's other side bumped him into Moore's knee. Very unfortunate but purely accidental the whole thing5 points
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Why do you keep linking articles that most people cannot access because of a paywall. Either copy & paste the article so we can all read it or Stop Linkin them.4 points
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I would be shocked to see him back this year. Following Dustin Martin's kidney injury a couple of years ago, it was shocking to see how much weight, fitness and conditioning he lost after such a long hospitalisation and recovery. For a player as big and powerful as Petracca to get back to anything resembling match fitness would be remarkable and may even be asking a bit much from him.4 points
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It would be well and truly good enough for me too. It's also what I expect will happen.4 points
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I was trying to think of an argument against your post, but I can’t as I agree with it. Playing some young blokes might create some enthusiasm and that could generate a better feeling among the group. I just wonder if Goody set them free, if the team would play better. The fact that they don’t know instinctively what to do, makes them take that split second to decide and that is where the pressure kills their possession and their disposal, leading to turnovers and opposition scores. The bombing into the forward line just adds to the turnovers and further opposition scores. The lack of spirit is also evident. We look a shadow of the team of the last three years.4 points
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Despite the breathless tone of the numpty media potato, there's nothing in this but a giggle. Reminds me of David Rodan's greatest moment where he broke clear from a half-forward pack and banged a long goal from 50... in the wrong direction. It was inevitable that he would become a goal umpire, really. Maybe he is just waiting for the day someone else does it while he is between the sticks? Still, we all know that this 'story' getting the breathless treatment is just symptom of AFL political economy.4 points
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I’m going to refer back to my previous post in the trac injury thread about the desperate pile on the dees… This is pathetic from the AFL media. Pathetic.4 points
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/23l-of-blood-internal-bleeding-misdiagnosis-rules-mason-cox-out-of-anzac-day/news-story/11f9b4605c2da8bfd23bfff8f86d1ba2?amp just wondering why Collingwood’s medicos haven’t been subject to the same scrutiny for this.. very convenient4 points
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Love how they highlighted him in the video doing normal stuff a runner would do4 points
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Just saw ch10 sport & saw him talk about playing his 200th this week. Said he wasn't great at school. Well knock me down with a feather. Who would have thought.4 points
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