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They lost me at “With exceptional ball users in Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Angus Brayshaw” without mentioning Bowey. The problem with most footy commentators is they don’t know as much about each team players as that’s team’s supporters, particularly the passionate ones who would inhabit places such as this.

Geelong are seen as masters of trade and free agency deals and they have performed extremely well for over a decade. I Thought I would have a closer look at our own performance in this area. Steven May - A master stroke play by the club. Defence was an area of weakness in 2018 and the club took some what of a risk with May who had proven his worth at GFC, but had a few question marks in regards to behaviour and attitude despite being a club captain. Definitely not high risk, but a risk considering we paid big dollars for him. The club took full advantage of the Hogan situation here. Big win! Jake Lever - the club was right into Lever in his draft year but went with Trac and Angus. Lever had done his knee in his draft year and fell to the Crows, but we continued to pursue him and drafted Lever after the 2017 season. Was somewhat a risk. Past injuries, not fitting a traditional key back role, but had great work ethic and was seen as a club leader from an early age - Big win Michael Hibberd - Essendon were cherry ripe for the taking after their cheating scandal and Hibberd was/is the perfect prototype the club were after. Strong and tough backman to played on small to medium/tall forwards. Never gives up. Big win Jake Melksham - high draft pick with talent who was inconsistent at the Bombers. Goodie knew him well and brought him across. Had some big games, and contributed well to this club. Came to us when no one would. I call this a win, despite the hate he gets on here. Adam Tomlinson - at GWS was never afforded a position to play regularly. With great endurance height and size, was seen as the prototype midfielder and the club needed a wingman. We got him and whilst never living up to his hype, has been adaptable and serviceable. Was great as a backman prior to doing a knee. Neutral with this trade. Cost us with money and length of contract, but at the time was a good move and has not hurt the club Ed Langdon - A winger who had a great year at Freeo and was next to Hill who took all the hype at the time. The club loved his endurance, work ethic and we got him for a steal. Disposal was seen as poor but with his work ethic, this is no longer an issues. Big win I put up there with May. BBB - For some reason was not afforded the respect by Norf and other clubs and the MFC got a KPF which was our weakness. Whilst not a big bulking forward to suit our game plan, BBB has adapted and has been all class. He was significant in getting us a flag. Significant win Luke Dunstan - good depth and cost nothing - neutral at this stage, but can’t be a loss due to his cost. Grundy - too early to call. Big potential trade win and is significantly better than Jackson at this stage. I’m Making this assessment by looking at past performance. IMO Brody was better than Jackson in his 4th year of AFL and Jackson will not get an AA or club BF. Lachie Hunter - too early to call. Big potential. Hunter was/is one of the best wingman at his best. If it fails, he cost nothing. So can’t be a loss. Schache - too early to call, could be a good move by the club despite where this ends up. Depth player and better than Weid. Could be a big win. Either way can’t be a loss. Overall it’s an A plus to the club and football department with trades. Kudos to all

I think each team will back in their preferred setup, and then it will be a matter of who blinks first if things are getting out of control. As a few have pointed out it’s likely the Dogs will only have three talls in their forward line at any point in time with Lobb giving English a chop out in the ruck, and all of those talls needing bench time too - especially Darcy who doesn’t have great endurance. If teams are selected as expected it’s more likely to be an even 3 v 3 talls in the Dogs’ forward line and 3 v 2 with Melbourne having the additional tall in Melbourne’s forward line. They will need to have a Bailey Williams or Crozier giving up massive size to someone if they don’t go for Bruce, who played back against North, in their 22. If I was the Dogs I’d either have Bruce in the 22 or have him as the tactical sub. McDonald and the possibility of one of the rucks dropping back give the extra defensive options already in Melbourne’s likely team. If Fritsch doesn’t get up Melbourne could try to stretch the Bulldogs even more with JVR or Schache to also have as many as 4 tall forwards. I don’t think they would do that as the match sim and practice matches were opportunities to try that setup and they didn’t use it.

Are the parmas any good?

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If you just go by the center bounce starting four, you could reasonably argue that... Gawn, Oliver, Viney, Harmes and Grundy, Petracca, Brayshaw, Pickett ...would both be in the top 10. Neither would be first, but both sets would compete with any other team at a bounce.

Regardless of where you rate Gutherie, we have arguably the no.1 midfield in comp, we’ve had the no.1 ranked defence over the last 2 seasons. We finished the H & A season last year 2nd after playing some ordinary predictable football in the back half of the season, along with a few injuries. An argument could be made for our depth compared to other top 4 hopefuls. Barring major injuries to a number of players there are simply no excuses this season, none. Top 2 finish is a must.

Lions on that showing should incrementally improve this season. But a competitive practice match against the Casey ‘seconds’ doesn’t inspire too much confidence of a climb out of the basement. Casey boys certainly worked with prevailing conditions and took their opportunities better than Coburg. A few observations on individual players thru red and blue glasses. Jack Bell; mobile competed manfully supported his team mates Riley Baldi; impressed last season in his appearances at Casey. Showed grunt in tight as a inside mid-fielder. Cooper MacDonald; backline sweeper who read the play well. Paddy Cross; provided defensive pressure on opponents and gave plenty of rebound. Miles Shepherd; utility who was prominent in defence first half, swung into attack second half and hit the scoreboard. Rhys Galvin; stood up in defence with his intercept marking. Wal Wual; athletic player who covers the ground panther like. Still raw but involved in a play of the match nomination. Gathered the loose ball in a congested situation btw centre and CHB and laterally scythed thru traffic to commence a scoring chain which resulted in a Casey goal. An impressive cameo.

Last year she bagged MFC for getting a crowd of about 30k against an interstate side then Richmond got an even lower crowd the following week.She said nothing on footy classified of course. She did say what a great CEO Tricky Gil has been. Vomitious stuff from Caro the daughter of a Richmond FC president.

This is the greatest time of the year. MFCSS only sets in after a loss.

I'm one of the guys that project manages the build and deployment of this type of technology. Here are the underlying mindsets of organisations in change of these projects: do it as cheap as possible we trust no one on the project team, or inside our own organisation, and the default position is "we are being ripped-off" we don't know anything about information system development, but we'll tell you how to do it security concerns are a low priority "what does the contract say" - refer bullet-point two. It's downhill on one leg, blindfolded, with no poles.

Yeah, this pub…

1 Grundy Gawn combo? 2 run and gun ball movement? 3 can they emulate Tigers sequence? 4 will Hunter get back to his best? 5 will Pickett be in red and blue in 2024? Hmmm - apart from the obvious Question 1, not really the most insightful questions to be asking. 1- the workings of the Gawn Grundy combo (of course) 2- will the Demons discover their mojo to dismantle teams and put the score on the board when they have control of the game? 3- will the Demons be mentally and physically strong enough to withstand 2nd half comebacks by the opposition ? 4- will the Demons maintain the strategy of kicking to the deep forward pockets (as a defensive attacking move) ? 5- do the Demons have the depth to have rotations and ensure their stars are fit and firing come September? These are more of the “pub questions being asked”.

It's a sad fact of life that both Ticketek and Ticketmaster are a complete disgrace when it comes to anything resembling customer service or providing a quality customer experience.

Lord must’ve exceeded the facepalm cap.

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Have they checked behind the grassy knoll? I believe Picket Fence was seen lurking around there.

We’ll do a little preview of the Bulldogs game too.

I'd like to know where the extra 50 goals this year are going to come from? Lobb out, Logue out & Acers out. Luke isn't going to kick 50.

On the whole, the crowd averages you pointed out for the last few rounds of 2022 are completely misleading due to the sides we played as FearTheBeard rightly points out. Regardless of your optimism and red and blue glasses. Melb home crowds were on the most, disappointing last year. We turned up in round 1 for our unavailing of the flag and for the Qualifying final against Sydney. Aside from those games, the big crowds were most obviously helped by playing big club who are also on the up or competing. (Carlton and Collingwood). This year I'm hoping we turn up more often, in part due to ticketing going back to normal. But also because covid is less of a thing and we'll have a point to prove. People underestimate the influence a crowd has on a game. Just ask the Collingwood footy club what it feels like to have that noise behind them in the last quarter of a game when they're a goal or two down. Time to turn up this year.

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What? You now need a ticket to take your gun to the footy? What is the world coming to?

Morning run - hope their season ends up here

No, Casey don’t have a seconds side. Players who don’t make the Casey team usually go back to their local side.

Was it Viney, in the study, with the candle stick

I don't think the amount of talls in the opposition team really will have much of a bearing on how we play, we'll try to win it out of the middle and put them under a lot of pressure, make them kick it long and high and let our team defense do it's thing. I'd suspect Gawn will go behind the ball pretty early in the game but beyond that it'll be more about beating them on the inside where i think they're a little thin without dunkley

We should be less worried about Caroline’s prediction & more worried about the article saying ANB will spend more time on the ball

I don't understand the hype on the Tigers. i see no evidence at all to suggest they're a legitimate premiership threat.

I like Caro.

I am a fan of CW most of the time (she gets it wrong on occasion like everyone) and believe the footy landscape is better for her presence. But she is so one-eyed it’s ridiculous!

Not sure where this is? Do you have a link? It could be your info hasn't been loaded into the main system yet. If you ordered a card it may take a while for that to be printed and mailed. That aside, you may need to go back a few steps: Have you download the mfc app? If not do so, see: https://www.melbournefc.com.au/app . If you have, log in via the app and see what appears. There are a few more steps but will wait until you try the above. No need to panic there is an mfc membership window between gates 3 and 4 on game day to help people with this stuff.

I just want to hear all the good vibes from our esteemed panel. Without mentioning names, there will be no room for MFCSS on this poddy. 😀😃😄

My comment and question for the panel - It's a good bet that Judd McVee will get a game early, if not named in Round 1. JVR will surely get a look in at some point in the season. Which other Rookie do you guys think will debut for the Demons in 2023? Team to Rise: Gold Coast Team to Fall: Collingwood

Thought they are meant to become available 24 hours before the game

Crisis averted. An email with details does come through eventually… for me it was just in time to see Lee bogey the last and Scheffler birdie 🥴

Lol, I think the typo is funny enough that I won’t edit my post 🤣

Same my renewal took a few days to show up, presumably because at Ticketek the carrier pigeon was scared by the ferret.

I didn't say our crowds fell off at the end. We were not outnumbered by a small number at the game, we were mobbed. There were at least 50,000 of them, the ground was shaking in the 4th quarter when they hit the front. Finals crowds will always bring the fair weather supporters regardless of the clubs plus 5000+ neutrals. ur crowds this yea for round 1, Anzac eve and KB are a huge watch. They need to be over 50, 70 and 75 respectively and round 1 ticket sales are not good.

I reckon Freo drop away and just miss the 8

Wonder what they would pay for a bag of rocks?

Are you sure there aren't any women here today?

Wot? O'Meare can only dream of emulating Mundy. Close to the most overhyped/overrated player of the last 10 years. Never won and B&F, never an AA, averages about five BL votes a season and I don't remember him every turning a game. Good ordinary player at best.

I thought he was training with the massage table.

can't see us changing our structure built around three tall defenders plus four-five rotating flankers, at least a couple of which are excellent intercept marks due to their ability to read the play first trick is stop the ball getting forward, or at least put them under pressure when they do bring it forward, use our smalls and runners to sprint away from their surplus of lumberers

Ticketek is a disgrace. Admittedly we are not young, but it's not as if we are out-of-date oldies who are fazed by technology. This household has at least 3 professional IT people in it who have even written the sort of stuff Ticketek is trying to do and we struggle getting it to do what we want in an efficient manner.

Alternate view could be she is priming herself to stick in the boots if we fail to win the flag.

She might fancy us, but sorry she is not my type and I do not reciprocate the affection.

Lmao Richmond in second, what the hell she basing this on!?

I did. In 1992 on a road trip from Chicago to Los Angeles, I made a point of turning left at Albuquerque, curious to discover where the wisdom of Bugs Bunny would lead me. The road led me to a town called "Truth or Consequences" where I went to the movies in an old cinema and and stayed overnight sleeping in a rental Teepee. True story.