Time for a Change….Don’t wait another 2 years…

[Smokey 4,387]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

What's the point? Who would we get?

Someone. Anyone. 
 

Would have loved it to be Yze. 

Edited June 10 by Smokey

[Sir Why You Little 36,867]

1 minute ago, godees said:

Let’s not get too excited about that game. Geelong have the worst rucks by far in the league and opposition rucks dominate them every game. Not playing Grundy in the finals was a huge mistake but moving him (and his contract) on was the right thing to do. Gawn is not a forward and neither is Grundy. They were no good together. 

This is where i disagree. 
You make the situation WORK, you do not give up after 5-6 games. 
that proved to me that our Coach was out of his depth 

 

[dazzledavey36 54,033]

8 minutes ago, godees said:

Let’s not get too excited about that game. Geelong have the worst rucks by far in the league and opposition rucks dominate them every game. Not playing Grundy in the finals was a huge mistake but moving him (and his contract) on was the right thing to do. Gawn is not a forward and neither is Grundy. They were no good together. 

Then why go and chase him? Myself and many more on here raised concerns around this strategy when it first came out that we were chasing Grundy.

It made zero sense at the time even with Jackson leaving. Jackson could at least pinch hit up forward where as Grundy never played there in his life.

Tim Lamb record of late has been abysmal of late and he needs to come under intense scrutiny for botching our list management of late.

[ElDiablo14 4,990]

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

What's the point? Who would we get?

At this point even an interim coach just for the rest of the season would be better, we are kidding ourselves if we think we can make the 8 or seriously contend this season. Then work out the replacement, maybe one of the assistant coaches in Geelong or Sydney? 

[ElDiablo14 4,990]

8 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Someone. Anyone. 
 

Would have loved it to be Yze. 

That's what I said last year, there should've been a transition plan from Goodwin to Yze. It seems now that it should've happened rather sooner than later.

[Smokey 4,387]

17 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

That's what I said last year, there should've been a transition plan from Goodwin to Yze. It seems now that it should've happened rather sooner than later.

This will go down as a tragic mistake on the part of our board. Yze had a lot to offer and some fresh eyes that are already close with the playing group would be perfect right now. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,867]

51 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Goody deserves to stay.

We would have won another flag last year except for injuries and Maynard. Ok the Laurie sub was a stupid selection but it happens.

We need to sack our forward coach.

Make some much better recruitment calls and start dropping players who don't perform.

If they don't put in, they don't play...simple.

Hi Petty 

We have had exactly the same problem for 3years. But nothing has been fixed. 
How is that not on The Head Coach?

It’s time for a Fresh Start whilst some of our list is still A Grade

[Kent 2,904]

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

100% agree with your opening comment, but fear it's become a boys club. 

Tim Lamb has to be the first out the door. Horrible record of trading for players past their prime. Goodwin won't get sacked, and neither should he, but some of his buddies have to go. That's you Greg Stafford. And question marks on our midfield coach McQualter.

Sack Goodwin he is the problem! Off you go demonlanders

[ANG13 2,051]

1 hour ago, Binmans PA said:

To be fair, Collingwood's system enables them to be a bit plug and play, but they were lucky our goalkicking was so abhorrent today.

Our goal kicking is / has been remarkably abhorrent in big games more often than not, for a couple of years. Not sure they were that lucky. 

[Fat Tony 5,216]

51 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Then why go and chase him? Myself and many more on here raised concerns around this strategy when it first came out that we were chasing Grundy.

It made zero sense at the time even with Jackson leaving. Jackson could at least pinch hit up forward where as Grundy never played there in his life.

Tim Lamb record of late has been abysmal of late and he needs to come under intense scrutiny for botching our list management of late.

We have made a lot of poor recruiting decisions in targeting needs rather than targeting fast and skilful players.

And decisions to give extension to fringe players so early in the season has been stupid.

[ANG13 2,051]

57 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Then why go and chase him? Myself and many more on here raised concerns around this strategy when it first came out that we were chasing Grundy.

The decision by us to go after Grundy and Grundy to choose us is one of the most baffling list management decisions made for a long time. 

[godees 858]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Then why go and chase him? Myself and many more on here raised concerns around this strategy when it first came out that we were chasing Grundy.

It made zero sense at the time even with Jackson leaving. Jackson could at least pinch hit up forward where as Grundy never played there in his life.

Tim Lamb record of late has been abysmal of late and he needs to come under intense scrutiny for botching our list management of late.

Agree on all your points. Especially Tim Lamb. Extending Adams, Laurie etc recently for two years is very questionable. They seem incapable of moving on players who are not showing much.

[Bates Mate 4,462]

10 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

We have made a lot of poor recruiting decisions in targeting needs rather than targeting fast and skilful players.

And decisions to give extension to fringe players so early in the season has been stupid.

We needed fast skillful players

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,674]

The game has moved passed our tough inside game as its a more free flowing outside speed game by foot.

We are not built for it and its why we need to build towards it for our next tilt and draft out our trade currency.

[Sir Why You Little 36,867]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

 

People working behind the Scenes and our Football Department have let us all down in a huge way. 
you do not come back from this, the damage (whatever it is) has been done. 
 

We have been deceived.

Look at Grundy last night. 
To not play him last year was sheer arrogance and stupidity 

This Club is like a Ferrari that hasn’t had a Service in 3 years. 
We need new people running the place. Top to Bottom 

The List can be salvaged but only with tough calls

@drysdale demonWhy are you laughing?

Is it Blind Faith….

[drysdale demon 4,820]

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

@drysdale demonWhy are you laughing?

Is it Blind Faith….

No, just your hysterical ranting.

[demon3165 2,658]

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

100% agree with your opening comment, but fear it's become a boys club. 

Tim Lamb has to be the first out the door. Horrible record of trading for players past their prime. Goodwin won't get sacked, and neither should he, but some of his buddies have to go. That's you Greg Stafford. And question marks on our midfield coach McQualter.

Funny Yze wanted more speed on the ball and that's what he is doing at Richmond, the problem is we don't have a midfield with speed or ball skills overall. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,867]

34 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

No, just your hysterical ranting.

So what would you do Dry? Sit Quietly for 2 years with your fingers crossed?

[KLV 1,765]

2 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

That's what I said last year, there should've been a transition plan from Goodwin to Yze. It seems now that it should've happened rather sooner than later.

Good in hindsight, but it would have been seen as madness to get rid of Goodwin after a flag and 2 subsequent top 4 finishes for an untried Yze 

[Sir Why You Little 36,867]

2 minutes ago, KLV said:

Good in hindsight, but it would have been seen as madness to get rid of Goodwin after a flag and 2 subsequent top 4 finishes for an untried Yze 

It would have been a brave move. Sadly that ship has sailed 

3 years with the same Forward problems. Today was exactly the same, when is enough…?

[Dave1711 144]

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Would like to see Dean Cox considered to replace Goodwin - has done a couple of years learning from Longmire and the Swans system which the best in the business. Change is definitely needed. 

I’m spewing we didn’t keep Yze, he should be coaching Melbourne, he’s a bloody good coach, he will do well at Richmond, we’ve got Goodwin and he will ruin this club 

[chook fowler 19,429]

Goodwin’s presser was jaw dropping. I can’t believe he tried to spin this loss in a positive light. As an isolated result maybe but in the context of terrible losses to West Coast and Freo it was time for some honesty and to show some passion. All we got were platitudes and cliches. Very disillusioning.

[BoBo 2,941]

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It would have been a brave move. Sadly that ship has sailed 

3 years with the same Forward problems. Today was exactly the same, when is enough…?

I reckon our forward problems have been spoken about since 2019 at least. Unless I’m misremembering 

[monoccular 17,400]

2 hours ago, Smokey said:

Someone. Anyone. 
 

Would have loved it to be Yze. 

Well, Yze is spoken for.  Please name who you want and who is available.

[640MD 3,337]

after 3 or 4 very poor games.  I thought this game would show us where we were as a club.  
We did not have to win. 

sadly we know exactly where we sit,