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Rivers May Lever

Bowey Tmac Salem

Langdon Oliver Hunter

ANB Petty Trac

Picket Roo Fritsch

Gawn Viney Brayshaw

McVee Pup Billings Sparrow

How many of these played the 4 quarters. 

Note: Gawn half a game, Trac and Viney limited time in middle.

 

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I thought we looked pretty average. There was certainly a more aggressive mindset and our defence suffered. Don’t think I can remember having so many opponents getting free out the back like today. 
The media are probably right about us, we are intriguing this year.

Not sure what we will offer. 

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On the newbies I like Brown and Billings will be a handy addition. 

Im hoping Fullarton will be available for a run before the season starts.

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I looked at this game as nothing more than a practice game with no telling result.

Was more interested in the young ens  Brown did very well, Windsor and Vennell didnt dissapoint.

Hore not ready, Billings will improve with another couple of games.

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2 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I find these statements amusing. One could be said about our opponent - they have a new coach with a new plan and arguably more impactful players missing. They have all the more reason to lose this praccy game.  

Don’t think Richmond would care all that much if they lost. They would just work on things to get better.

Statements like premiership window closed and Goodwin will be under real pressure by R5 after watching our first hit out are amusing. 

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2 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

On the newbies I like Brown and Billings will be a handy addition. 

Im hoping Fullarton will be available for a run before the season starts.

I read somewhere that Fullerton and BBB are possible inclusions for the next praccy game

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26 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

My main observation is that we don’t have the skill to be a fast ball movement team. Boundary and pack based play with f50 territory will be 1 wood. 

Windsor, Brown look good but will take 1-2 years to really acclimate, but I think they’ll add to our team.

Rivers, Laurie, Billings, Tomo, May,ANB, Fritta, Langdon were disappointing today. 

I think Goodwin will be sweating after first 5 rounds. 

Dont understand the negatives on Billings, he was very good today!

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28 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Cons:

- tugboat

?

Can’t be this bloke he was  in dry dock today.IMG_2484.thumb.jpeg.e53638fb401e9d78d8e71e5a82ae7df9.jpeg

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From the AFL website, I think they are jumping the gun on 2025 free agency here. Sigh.

... Tom McDonald, Lachie Hunter, Shane McAdam (all calf injuries),  Andy Brayshaw (illness), Charlie Spargo (Achilles soreness), Harrison Petty (toe), Ben Brown (knee), Daniel Turner (femur), Taj Woewodin (concussion) and Andy Moniz-Wakefiled (thigh) all missing.

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To me it was the sameness to what we were poor at in the past that was disappointing. There was nothing fresh about any of the plays. There were some different combinations in positions. But not better outcomes than the a team. Positive is if they work on creating their own tempo and be less manic the skills should improve.

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11 minutes ago, SPC said:

I thought we looked pretty average. There was certainly a more aggressive mindset and our defence suffered. Don’t think I can remember having so many opponents getting free out the back like today. 
The media are probably right about us, we are intriguing this year.

Not sure what we will offer. 

'Intriguing' is way too kind.

Suffice we didn't give away any "secrets" today but certainly camouflaged any improvements. 

We're about to see a lot of teams fly past us if we dont bring to bear all the "lessons" from today.

All the effort of flash 'reels" and colourful media is moot....... if you can't  kick or mark.

Not thinking those Lygon St Louts will be much worried.

Crossed fingers and toes we are much better than today or it will be a long long season.....without worrying about a straight sets exit.

There's trackwork......and there's reality.

Need to sharpen up some.

Go Dees

 

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1 hour ago, SPC said:

I thought we looked pretty average. There was certainly a more aggressive mindset and our defence suffered. Don’t think I can remember having so many opponents getting free out the back like today. 
The media are probably right about us, we are intriguing this year.

Not sure what we will offer. 

I spoke with a media footy person this week who said we were the mystery of 2024. They wouldn’t be surprised if we won the flag OR finished 10th and sacked Goody half way……

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Good grief.

Its started already. Season over before R1 has even been played. No skills no new moves inside 50 . Recruits are a bust.

I didnt realise you had to peak in February to be a chance for the flag in late Sept or even early October.

Maybe I'll play golf instead this season.

Only joking  i hate golf. lol

Relax. I'll wait and see how we go against the Swans. Our last H &A game was the same team and ground. We creamed them.

 

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The main issue today was poor kicking and handball.

We're clearly trying to play faster and use the corridor, but you get torched on the rebound when you turn it over, as we did today.

Last year we lacked some dare, but had a fantastic all ground defence, which is why teams found it hard to move the ball against us.  Think of Collingwood only having 39 inside 50s in the final and their struggle to move the ball forward on KB.  In general play we dominated Carlton, but didn't close the door.

We didn't get our tweaked game-plan right today and lost momentum.  Richmond kicked it far better.

They'll learn a lot from the hitout.

Oliver and Salem the big pluses from the second game.

Kynan Brown surprised me.  He looks very promising.

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If you stopped the game after 20 mins we would be revelling in the glory of it all.  We gave up 9 or 10 goals in a row to put ourselves in the downward dog position.

Liked that Max did only a half, we had a whole lot of new faces halving a crack, and we were rusty across the board.  If we did better on the two way running and defended inside the 50 better, ot would have looked.  Very different.  Seemed p1 was about our transition, then we tried a few things.

Oliver and Salem a class above in the late periods.

Still glass half full.  

 

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I don’t think the score line matters (except the “apprentice” would be within his rights to gloat a bit to the “Master”). What does matter if anyone here was able to pick out how we overcame the issues we had last year - which any good coach would be aiming to fix, surely.

Forward entry / connection? - anyone notice any changes or improvements?

Ball handling and kicking skills? - improvement?

Center connection and clearances? - again, improvements?
 

I didn’t see all of the match, but from what I did see, I couldn’t recognise any real improvements or system changes at all. So please convince me we did! 
Otherwise, given the way I saw the tigers play, I  might wish that we had hung onto the “apprentice” - who, given time, might well become the “Master”.

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This time last year we were smashing teams, flying out of the gate like a bull to a red rag.

Lets see if a change in approach yields different results later on in the year.

Youngsters show alot of promise great hit out, no injuries, Premiership aren't won in February.

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I didn't get to watch the game today.

My worry is the momentum issue that we cannot control.

Five goal lead, then they take the momentum. We have no replies to their goals.

Why couldn't we close it down, or continue scoring?

Was it a lack of ability to read the game or the same old, drink the bath water and believe this is a cruise?

I want us to be ruthless and "put them to the sword" when we are in that position. 

The backline sounded like a bit of a rabble. They will get their act together, they hate getting scored against, and 21. 21 from the opposition is a shellacking, which, I hope won't happen again.

Shame the club couldn't stream via their own methods but used a pay for service. Hope they got well reimbursed.

Casey is too difficult to get to by public transport. They need to find a way to include all the supporters of the club.

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