POSTGAME: SF vs Carlton

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah he's absolutely butchered that all you now that you mention it.

 

I think I mentioned it once or 7,000 times during the year.

[dees189227 10,871]

Well I'm barracking for a Brisbane v gws/port gf. I might jump on the big big sound bandwagon 

[YearOfTheDees 3,101]

1 minute ago, Undeeterred said:

He is the sole reason Lever and May took about 6000 intercept marks tonight. Lever is a debacle when he has to man up on a KPF

That's my point as soon as he started playing well he was dropped.

[ElDiablo14 3,183]

2 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

The lack of discipline and organisation was terrible. Frees against when kicking for goal or the game had stopped, 50m penalties, and four times we had no ruck in the forward stoppages. Players slipping in the centre square. 

Langdon had two terrible finals and looks a D grader. 

Salem has no drive and power. Finished. 

Jordon was hopeless. 

Sparrow fumbled too often.

Fritsch’s misses cost us in both finals.

Our set ups and centre clearance were ineffective and we didn’t defend well one on one. 

That’s four finals losses with more shots at goal. 

Woewodin to the wing next year.

 

[dees189227 10,871]

Has goody done his presser yet?

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,014]

55 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

Blues will get thrashed like us in 2018 style bookmark it

This.

And even had we won tonight, the Bears would have pulled our pants down next week.

[DeeSpencer 23,237]

7 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

Why Tomlinson hasn’t played 18-19 games this year is flat out beyond me. Just mind boggling selection all year 

Because he stank every time he didn’t have a match up and he was fairly stinky in patches tonight giving goals to TDK. 

The coaches went horses for courses down back all year and managed the best they could, still didn’t have enough run or skill tonight. Lever’s intercepting dropped off after a hot start and we needed more bounce from the backline. 

[whatwhat say what 19,157]

well, that managed to both suck and blow simultaneously

[Binmans PA 26,266]

A pathetic and insipid ending. You can't kick 9.17 and expect to win too many games of footy, let alone finals.

I know we were cobbling together a forwardline minus Petty, Melksham and JVR, but we had more than enough chances to win the game, and botched them.

I also felt our A grade midfielders didn't influence the games enough, when we desperately need them to boss games. 

The mantra leading into the finals campaign was win the big moments. We constantly [censored] the bed in pivotel moments.

Shattered by two chokes in two weeks.

Nothing more at this time, but numb is a good word for it.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Binmans PA

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,281]

3 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

That’s four finals losses with more shots at goal. 

If it’s any consolation Sydney had more scoring shots than us in last years qualifying final.

[YearOfTheDees 3,101]

2 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Has goody done his presser yet?

Yes. Didn't address the reason we lost just said we didn't take our chances.

[titan_uranus 22,522]

Shelve the “we have the best list” talk.

It’s not even close.

We have as good a crop of elite talent as anyone. But we have so, so many holes on our list. 

Langdon, Salem, Hunter and McDonald are all so far below their previous best form, for various reasons. 

Sparrow, Jordon, Spargo, Chandler, ANB and Smith all bring their own assets to the table but are all limited footballers in their own various ways.

Schache’s depth, sure, but hardly any good.

We have far too many poor kicks. We have far too many players who cannot or will not work out how to improve problems they’ve had for years. 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

12 minutes ago, loges said:

And your solution is ?????? The man who only comes on here after a loss.

 

11 minutes ago, Billy said:

Always the smart alec, I’m sure you like it when they lose so you can prove you point

 

I've been posting about it for the last two full seasons. Just because I don't come in here to gush over every win, doesn't mean I don't celebrate them. 

It's been clear since last year that we need significant personnel changes across the field and we need a more significantly altered game-plan. 

Goodwin is a master of staying true to what he 'believes in'. And he's been believing for too long, ignoring all warning signs and trends that we've all witnessed for so long. 

Struggling to score, struggling to hit targets, struggling to kill games when they should be killed. We are a bottom four side when going inside 50. Do people realise how broken that is? And don't give me this 'repeat entry' bulltish. We have more than enough opportunity for players to hit targets. We just don't take them both because of instruction and limitations across our players who all share the same weakness. 

This is both personnel and gameplan and Goodwin hasn't done anywhere near enough to fix it. 

The coaching group needs to be reshuffled, Goodwin again needs to be challenged by some outside thinking. We need to refresh this list, move on some players who are simply not cutting it for us in certain positions, bring in youth and bring in a better blend of players so that we can actually use the ball going forward. 

 

 

[KingDingAling 3,613]

1 minute ago, Greendale said:

Still think we've had the best list for the last four years straight. TMac a significant weakspot, and Jordon not quite up to it, but our topliners are unmatched. Steven May incredible tonight against the best forward in the comp.

You have good judgment. Likewise, I agree, however, I just believe we by far and away 10 miles to none have the best list. We fluked the 2021 flag, and now we pay he price. Our coach lacks discipline. Our players are ineffective. This Is a whole other convo, but, if Goodwin remains, then certain players are going to waste. That being said, I speak of discipline. As a club, we really do need to be led correctly. We were partially sidelined by Paul Roos endorsing Goodwin, primarily because Roos believed Goodwin was best suited to carry on Roos vision. Big mistake. I believe it is. I really don’t know why we appointed the bloke, and Roos aside, we wouldn’t have.

 

 

[praha 10,293]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If it’s any consolation Sydney had more scoring shots than us in last years qualifying final.

Yay

[Fat Tony 4,447]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If it’s any consolation Sydney had more scoring shots than us in last years qualifying final.

We actually had 23-22 shots against Sydney if you count complete misses. 

[Gawndy the Great 7,549]

4 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Woewodin to the wing next year.

 

100% Langdon has to go. He has done f all for 2 years. Blood new players and turn over our list. Salem as well. Should have kept Bedford over Chandler in hindsight.

 

[titan_uranus 22,522]

Also I know we want to soften the blow but I don’t buy the “Brisbane would have killed us next week” stuff. 

If we held on tonight, got the monkey off the back, and then got to get on a plane and galvanise as a unit against a side we hate, but match up well against, and who is the only other side in it who has anything like the pressure that we have, I genuinely would have backed us in. 

[Wilson7 2,532]

1 minute ago, KingDingAling said:

You have good judgment. Likewise, I agree, however, I just believe we by far and away 10 miles to none have the best list. We fluked the 2021 flag, and now we pay he price. Our coach lacks discipline. Our players are ineffective. This Is a whole other convo, but, if Goodwin remains, then certain players are going to waste. That being said, I speak of discipline. As a club, we really do need to be led correctly. We were partially sidelined by Paul Roos endorsing Goodwin, primarily because Roos believed Goodwin was best suited to carry on Roos vision. Big mistake. I believe it is. I really don’t know why we appointed the bloke, and Roos aside, we wouldn’t have.

 

 

rubbish

[Dusty_Hill 184]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Straight Sets Simon has wasted yet another year through poor list management and team selection.

Schache the sub and wasn’t even used, while we had ruck contests with no one going up and Grundy in the stands.

Gawn totally exposed their backline with his marking when he was forward, we could have had a lot more of that with Grundy in the team.

This is the least surprising result, lost at team selection yet again.

Well said. What was it 5? weeks ago Max got double teamed by these two and we lost. This time we leave another All Australia in the stands and go in short as and then play Schache as the sun. Beggars belief. 

Then Max did mark finally in the third he carries on and goes back and misses a sitter. Love the guy but it was embarrassing 

[DeeSpencer 23,237]

2 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

You have good judgment. Likewise, I agree, however, I just believe we by far and away 10 miles to none have the best list. We fluked the 2021 flag, and now we pay he price. Our coach lacks discipline. Our players are ineffective. This Is a whole other convo, but, if Goodwin remains, then certain players are going to waste. That being said, I speak of discipline. As a club, we really do need to be led correctly. We were partially sidelined by Paul Roos endorsing Goodwin, primarily because Roos believed Goodwin was best suited to carry on Roos vision. Big mistake. I believe it is. I really don’t know why we appointed the bloke, and Roos aside, we wouldn’t have.

 

 

Wow the last time I sure a steaming pile of nonsense that big it was Marc Pittonet 

 

[Bring Back Barassi 532]

Maxy’s two misses were mind boggling 

Edited September 15, 2023 by Bring Back Barassi

[dees189227 10,871]

Typical Melbourne. They get your hopes up & you can trust them again & they let you down 

[Pennant St Dee 11,336]

Just now, titan_uranus said:

Also I know we want to soften the blow but I don’t buy the “Brisbane would have killed us next week” stuff. 

If we held on tonight, got the monkey off the back, and then got to get on a plane and galvanise as a unit against a side we hate, but match up well against, and who is the only other side in it who has anything like the pressure that we have, I genuinely would have backed us in. 

Brisbane played a team last week who can’t defend, we’d have done better than the Blues next week like us in 2018 mentally and physically they will be drained but we shot ourselves in the foot 

[Webber 10,150]

2 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

A pathetic and insipid ending. You can't kick 9.17 and expect to win too many games of footy.

I know we were cobbling together a forwardline minus Petty, Melksham and JVR, but we had more than enough chances to win the game, and botched them.

I also felt our A grade midfielders didn't influence the games enough, when we desperately need them to boss games. 

The mantra leading into the finals campaign was win the big moments. We constantly [censored] the bed in pivotel moments.

Shattered by two chokes in two weeks.

Nothing more at this time, but numb is a good word for it.

It was actually a very messy game I reckon. Riddled with mistakes, which of course we ultimately turned into some kind of choke art form. But being as poor as you say and still being better than Carlton, apart from kicking for goal obviously, makes it something even worse. I found the whole thing pretty horrible to watch. Brisbane will be licking their lips, and would’ve had we won too.