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7 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Bugger it, that’s tomorrow’s problem. If a team wants to stay together they find a way. 

 

Imagine being so good that people now worry about how we will keep all our stars together? This time last year Oliver was off to Carlton, Trac to the Pies.

I think the boys looked fairly connected on the ground after the granny. Doubt anyone is rushing to leave.

Time for the top end of Collins St boys to get the brown paper bags loaded up??


We've spent most of the year renegotiating contracts. He's a reactionary that looks for clicks and nothing more.

Why is this news. I would have thought any team that wins the premiership will have a tight cap

 
6 minutes ago, BDA said:

Why is this news. I would have thought any team that wins the premiership will have a tight cap

Exactly.  If he did his research and read his own article he would find out Oliver and Pickett are contracted for another 2 years, Gawn for another 4. 

Our priorities for next year are Jackson and Brayshaw. Yes they will get a salary increase but Jones and Jetta have retired now, which will go a long way to covering any increase.  

As BDA has said any club that has won a Premiership has the same problem.  But any club that is in the top part of the Ladder will as well ( apart from Collingwood).  It's all about list management.  Not the bleeding obvious!!

It would be a great offseason game to play where demonlanders assign the salary cap to each player on the list.  It’s not as easy as it first looks I would imagine


Winning flags helps suppress wages at a good club with a strong culture. If our culture is as good as they all say it is, guys will keep taking unders to keep the group together and have sustained success.

A young side winning a flag will definitely mean there are younger players who have risen quickly, and will need a big upgraded deal.

Although as AF says, winning a flag is the ultimate confirmation that we are on the right track to some sustained success, and that will hopefully mean they will do what is needed to keep the core together.

The way Jackson's playing, half his wages are going on dental. On the couch said his has gone up by a fair wack already.

13 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Exactly.  If he did his research and read his own article he would find out Oliver and Pickett are contracted for another 2 years, Gawn for another 4. 

Our priorities for next year are Jackson and Brayshaw. Yes they will get a salary increase but Jones and Jetta have retired now, which will go a long way to covering any increase.  

As BDA has said any club that has won a Premiership has the same problem.  But any club that is in the top part of the Ladder will as well ( apart from Collingwood).  It's all about list management.  Not the bleeding obvious!!

We've already extended TMac who had a year to run, along with Lever who had 2 years to run (from memory), plus have guys like Harmes, Gawn, Salem and Trac on longer term deals, so clearly the list management team are on top of this and have started to make plans already. 


How often does a player leave for money?  

Why would a player leave now when there are finals on the horizon for quite a few years.  Playing with their mates at the MCG.

The time to cash is in when they have a few medals around their neck.  A bit like Richmond and Hawks players have been in demand.

1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Exactly.  If he did his research and read his own article he would find out Oliver and Pickett are contracted for another 2 years, Gawn for another 4. 

Our priorities for next year are Jackson and Brayshaw. Yes they will get a salary increase but Jones and Jetta have retired now, which will go a long way to covering any increase.  

As BDA has said any club that has won a Premiership has the same problem.  But any club that is in the top part of the Ladder will as well ( apart from Collingwood).  It's all about list management.  Not the bleeding obvious!!

And Tmac from reports took a pay cut.

But Kane is raising ths as a legitimate issue given the star power clearly inside the team. 

Cats managed it, so will we.

Basically, In jason and gary Pert we trust.  (not necessarily Taylor's area but he will have input for team structure for sure.)

I have faith that the Dees will manage it. 
 

Salary cap impact is felt more for players like Melksham might have to take a pay cut on his next contract cycle.  He’s probably looking for opportunities plus longer term and $$$ to be maintained.  

The good thing about having such a young best 22 is our depth players can all be pretty cheap.

Any depth veterans like Daw and Brown don't have to be paid much. Even Hibbo. And Weid.

Then the rest of our depth can be younger guys who are unproven. We're actually very shallow on the list which is the only trade off I guess. We'll need to keep drafting viable depth.

Oliver, Fritsch, Jackson, Petty then Rivers and Kossie will get their pay days. Bowey in time.

Spargo, Sparrow and JJ might not break the bank, good solid role players. If guys like that become big money types then ok, we trade them away if we have to and draft a replacement.

But Gawn, Viney, Lever, May, Langdon, McDonald, Tomlinson will be coming off their big years and we've already negotiated a lot of them down. Even Petracca and Salem went for extra years over extra cash as far as I can tell.

I can imagine we have a budget for rucks and key forwards. Gawn - on a lot but not crazy money. McDonald - spread over 3 years. Brown - not silly money. M Brown - stuff all. Weid - pretty cheap deal you'd think. So there's room in that piece of the pie for Jacko to get a decent increase.

Same goes for the midfield with Clarry. Harmes, Langdon, Gus, Viney all had a good taste. Petracca didn't take crazy money. Oliver can now do the same.

 


Considering we made an unsuccessful play for Isaac Smith in the offseason, I'd assume there's still a comfortable amount of wiggle room in our cap.

I can definitely see there being some issues in a couple of years though. Jackson, Pickett and Rivers will all require significant salary increases, while the likes of Oliver, ANB, Jordon, Sparrow, Fritsch and Petty will also probably demand more. Not many old fellas will be finishing up in this time frame either. 

Overall I trust the list management team will be right on top of things and keep as much of this talent together as possible.

3 hours ago, A F said:

Winning flags helps suppress wages at a good club with a strong culture. If our culture is as good as they all say it is, guys will keep taking unders to keep the group together and have sustained success.

This and the fact that we have developed most of our own players through the draft and haven't paid huge $ for stars. Considering we brought in Melksham, Lever, May, Tomlinson and Langdon we don't have the same pressures as paying close to $1m to bring in a Jack Martin, Jeremy Cameron or Patrick Dangerfield.  Most of our imports would be on 500-700k where we have brought in 1 - 2 players a year over the past 4 years, while putting aside cash for our stars like Oliver and Petracca, without paying overs to bring in similar players and thereby devaluing our own talent. List, system and culture wise we are well placed to setup a dynasty for the next 5+ years.

Interesting he thinks Oliver is a million dollar player, I was listening to his radio show a couple of months ago and he was talking about superstars. He didn’t even have him in the category below superstar and now he thinks he’s worth a mil a year. He does love a headline. 
 

I agree with him though it is going to be tuff pleasing everybody but other successful teams have managed so I have faith we will also. 

 

For a minute I was worried . . . then realised this is the usual brain-fart diatribe from the mindless Kane Cornfake. I am now 100 percent confident we are paying 92.5 percent of our cap for the next 10 years. 

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