1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

On a side note that's off topic, I saw on 7 news that Mitch Hannan is out indefinitely with a groin Injury.

Sheeit thats all we need! Why dont Richmond and Geelong cop this kind of bad luck????

Paaaaaark Me!!?

Could Tomlinson be an option. Bad luck for Weed.

6 minutes ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

Could Tomlinson be an option. Bad luck for Weed.

It's the natural progression from Preuss as a forward

Disappointed  considering this but Steven May is probably the next best player id trust in the forward line to have a presence, draw an established and match him, have good positioning and clunk a few marks week in week out. If nothing else its worth a try if we dominate inside 50s and continually outmarked. And yes i know hes a wonderful defender. 

Otherwise Gawn simply has to play more forward this year with Jackson in the ruck.  Hes the best contested mark in the game. We need legitimate marking targets. 

45 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Yes he can defend but is also useful up forward. Given we have a backline to pick from he can play at FF.

Of course he can go up forward but that wasn't the point of the post...our good friend the doctor seemed to imply that Goodwin had no idea playing him as a defender, his natural position.

 

37 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Sheeit thats all we need! Why dont Richmond and Geelong cop this kind of bad luck????

Paaaaaark Me!!?

Hannan plays for the Bulldogs. 

Probably already been said before but wouldn't surprise to see Petty given a go up forward.  

3 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Baldwin wouldn’t have been a great option as he’s recovering from a second ACL.

That's true but because of the big wraps about his ability as a junior and his character, I thought he would have been a good selection to bring in, not for immediate impact, but to be an understudy to Ben Brown for as long as it took - two years at Casey if necessary. Still, no club has picked him so there's probably something we don't know about him  that's keeping clubs from taking the risk.

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Said this before pre Brown and Weideman injury that I felt we still lacked depth in our forward department and was amazed we had not invited a Jackson Callow or Kaine Baldwin as a train on instead of Kobe Farmer and Deakyn Smith. Two big strong key forwards who are physically ready to go.

Callow invited to train with Hawthorn as of last week.

 

How many key forwards can you have on a list Brown Tmac Weeds Jacko and Mitch Brown I don’t think there was room for any more 

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54 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

On a side note that's off topic, I saw on 7 news that Mitch Hannan is out indefinitely with a groin Injury.

Because I'm psycho(cic) the thought crossed my mind this arvo that Hannan  playing a full year wid de dogs was Buckleys.

4 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Lost both our key forwards... ouch

Ben Brown will be back by round 2 or 3 his back running in another week

Well this has been a crap week for our forward line, particularly as a strong start is so important to the success of our year. Poor Weid, he was putting in so much hard work and now he'll have to start all over again.

Tommy has gone from being on the fringes (possibly playing wing), to competing for the other spot in the forward line, to now once again being our focal point. Welcome back to 2019 ?.

 

Bad luck for the Wied. I am one that believes he will become a very good forward. to me he showed a bit last year and I was looking forward to seeing progress again this season.

With both B Brown and Wied out for, at least, the early rounds I will be interested to see how we look at working around this problem. I think it could tell us a lot about the progress the coaching set up has made over the off season. 

There is 6-7 weeks to go to round 1 so they have plenty of time to think it through and set up a number of options.

The form of Tmac, M Brown and Jackson at training and in the pre-season games will be critical to how the forward structure is set up. 

If they are not performing then we could look at Petty, Tomlinson or Petracca as a focal point. Jackson I would not be putting too much pressure on to perform as yet. I think that sort of thing has lead to development problems with players in the past.

1 minute ago, Pates said:

Well this has been a crap week for our forward line, particularly as a strong start is so important to the success of our year. Poor Weid, he was putting in so much hard work and now he'll have to start all over again.

Tommy has gone from being on the fringes (possibly playing wing), to competing for the other spot in the forward line, to now once again being our focal point. Welcome back to 2019 ?.

 

Yes thankfully we kept Tom. We are now looking at Tommy, Petty, Mitch Brown and Luke Jackson as key forwards, aligned with Fritsch, Tracc, Melchum as mid sized forwards with Spargo, Kossie, Nibbler as crumbers.... it’s not the end of the world if our midfield dominance continues into 2021 and you know we get that connection between mids and forwards functioning. 

1 minute ago, Earl Hood said:

Yes thankfully we kept Tom. We are now looking at Tommy, Petty, Mitch Brown and Luke Jackson as key forwards, aligned with Fritsch, Tracc, Melchum as mid sized forwards with Spargo, Kossie, Nibbler as crumbers.... it’s not the end of the world if our midfield dominance continues into 2021 and you know we get that connection between mids and forwards functioning. 

Through 2019 and well into 2020 that has been our biggest issue. I'm probably a little harsh on Tommy by saying welcome back to 2019, he's been training well and who knows he could have a second sunrise on his career as a forward. Either way we will either need that connection between midfield and forward to actually work (I personally think to do think Fritch needs to play on the HFF instead or rotating with Melksham) or we need to create more goals out of our midfielders such as Oliver, Brawshaw, Viney, and perhaps Harmes. 

I just really hope for Wieds sake that his hard work over the summer hasn't been for nothing. 

41 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Probably already been said before but wouldn't surprise to see Petty given a go up forward.  

Your right, people saying that Goodwin won't put him forward, because he has been training as a forward, and he is the worst coach and is inflexible, forget that petty played his last game as a forward.

5 hours ago, Steno said:

I love January. Full of hope and optimism.

It is now February by  the way 

 

Sounds like Petty will be reassigned up forward. 
 

One man’s pain is another’s opportunity 

Let’s look at the positives. We aren’t playing finals this year and Goodwin will be gone at some stage this year. The future looks bright!!

3 hours ago, Demonsone said:

Im convinced...followed the club for 50 years we are cursed, jinxed

Cheer up there’s always 2022!

Now that both B Brown and Weideman are out I think Tom McDonald will be relishing the opportunity 

It’s not great news but at least it’s early Feb, we still have T Mac (who’s super fit with a point to prove), Mitch Brown, Jackson and a stack of other mid and small forward options.

We’re better when we’re not drinking our own bath water.

It’s not over yet. In fact, the season’s not yet even started.

And we’re not Collingwood.

 

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Sheeit thats all we need! Why dont Richmond and Geelong cop this kind of bad luck????

Paaaaaark Me!!?

****mond did win a premiership with the best backman of his generation in the stands PF.

No need to panic Demonland, keep calm and throw the big fella Petty forward, its his time to shine with Action and Tmac in support.

Rather this happen now and we can plan for it rather than during the season where we would be well and truely fcukd.

 

Edited February 10, 20214 yr by Win4theAges

We've been so one dimensional and predictable heading into F50 for 2 years. 

This is not ideal but hopefully this forces our hand to be more creative and change things up. 

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Said this before pre Brown and Weideman injury that I felt we still lacked depth in our forward department and was amazed we had not invited a Jackson Callow or Kaine Baldwin as a train on instead of Kobe Farmer and Deakyn Smith. Two big strong key forwards who are physically ready to go.

Callow invited to train with Hawthorn as of last week.

 

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mitch Brown is 31 years and we are in trouble and going nowhere if he's playing round 1. Ben Brown is half cooked with knee issues which we were well aware pre trade period. Petty has missed 12 months of football due to injury and will be a fair way off match fitness. Tom McDonald is cooked. He'll never get back to his best and people need to start accepting that. 

Weideman has now gone down. McDonald takes the number 1 defender now and Jackson the 2nd best.

Defenders will be laughing.

Oh come on dazzle, what rubbish.

We went into this season with B Brown, Weid, Jackson, TMac and M Brown, not to mention Petty. We didn't and don't need more tall forwards. Suggesting that we should have then added an 18-year old project player to the list is ridiculous. How would an 18-year old fix the problem you're discussing here of McDonald taking the number 1 defender and Jackson the 2nd? 

List management cannot plan for worst case scenarios of the number 1 and number 2 forward getting injured in back-to-back weeks.

It's not as if TMac hasn't done it before, and indeed M Brown has played the number 2/3 forward role well too. They're wholly acceptable options as the back up we'd planned them to be, and now need to rely on.

It sucks that this is where we're at, but it is what it is. Most recent premiers have faced injury issues at some point in their season.