56 minutes ago, willmoy said:

A partial change of body language, is that enough to be interested, i dunno...

I remember in 2016, we just ended the 10 year drought against Hawthorn. Hogan was a late out for this game. 

A few minutes after the final siren he was walking through the G on level 1. Slumped, hands in pocket etc. 

Still accepted my high five but just seemed very flat. 

Granted he could have been cut about missing through injury but just seemed rather nonchalant. 

Any win against Hawthorn should have everyone up and about. 

 

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Sounding to me like a salary dump; could come cheap in trade, big in cap.

 

The Cats would be interested in him, at a cut rate price or not. Betcha they are thinking of his deployment in their future game plans. His run and tank are what they need as a distraction from set position ball receivers. 

Pick 47.

Split 2021 payment with Freo... then we contract him on our terms. Play Hogan as a rotating flanker/forward pocket!
 

HF: Hogan Petracca Kossi

FF: Hunt  Weideman  Fritsch 

Edited October 21, 20204 yr by Dee tention

For months I have been dead against having Hogan back on the basis that he appears to require the use of too many club resources, particulalry to help him with his off-field behaviour. Yet, the moment I heard that Fremantle has confirmed that they would be interested in trading him, my brain's first thought was that I hope he comes back to us. This is why passionate Melbourne supporters should not make list decisions!   And now that the adrenaline or dopamine or whatever it was that triggered that emotional response has gone, I'm once again of the view that his future is not with us. I just hope that he can be happy within himself whatever happens from here.

Sadly Jessie is a troubled soul. I have a feeling he will remain at Freo and be delisted at the end of 2021. Like a lot who cannot handle the attention that the top level brings. 

1 hour ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

No.

They got rid of Watts and Hogan for cultural reasons.  They want to be a serious football club.

Now that’s funny

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Does Jesse really want to be an AFL player, or does he just like the lifestyle?

I'd imagine he hates the lifestyle and is willing to part with several million dollars over the rest of his career to live a more normal lifestyle in terms of public scrutiny. 

I feel for him because he's not making the choices of a well adjusted rational person.

I'm looking forward to seeing him play for Scarborough Amateurs from 2022 and beyond 

Edited October 21, 20204 yr by Pennant St Dee

3 hours ago, Neitas bump said:

Let's get him back. I miss the big fella. 

Trade the McDonald brothers for Connor Blakley & Jesse Hogan

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Sadly Jessie is a troubled soul. I have a feeling he will remain at Freo and be delisted at the end of 2021. Like a lot who cannot handle the attention that the top level brings. 

Might even be paid out next year?

I reckon the COVID breach was one transgression too many for the club to handle. 

heart says go for it

head says red flags everywhere

last year i let heart win for hb, this years it's the head's turn to win

55 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I'd imagine he hates the lifestyle and is willing to part with several million dollars over the rest of his career to live a more normal lifestyle in terms of public scrutiny. 

I feel for him because he's not making the choices of a well adjusted rational person.

The choices are being taken out of his hands

He has had numerous chances, far more than most

He has more talent than the rest of the forward line combined....get him

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm once again of the view that his future is not with us. I just hope that he can be happy within himself whatever happens from here.

His future is in a lower level competition. Huge talent, but not meant for AFL football.

Will remain an unforfilled talent. 

4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

For months I have been dead against having Hogan back on the basis that he appears to require the use of too many club resources, particulalry to help him with his off-field behaviour. Yet, the moment I heard that Fremantle has confirmed that they would be interested in trading him, my brain's first thought was that I hope he comes back to us. This is why passionate Melbourne supporters should not make list decisions!   And now that the adrenaline or dopamine or whatever it was that triggered that emotional response has gone, I'm once again of the view that his future is not with us. I just hope that he can be happy within himself whatever happens from here.

I completely agree. It would be a step backwards for both parties, but strangely the lure of the fairytale makes me want it to happen. 

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The choices are being taken out of his hands

He has had numerous chances, far more than most

The last "strike" is shacking up with a lady after returning from Qld while meant to be in quarantine. I wouldn't hang him on that.

Surprised by the pessimism about Jesse here. He was an elite talent and can be again. Never any trouble for us other than he wanted to go home.

He’s had a tough time at Freo. Got a serious injury early, too much time on his hands back in the home town, the club put no support structures around him by the sounds of it.  Freo was the wrong club for him. He should never have went there.

Jesse left home at 17, obviously missed his family and Perth, lost his dad who was a massive influence on him tragically, had a cancer scare himself. Could you blame him if he struggled mentally. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s still trying to process all that grief and loss. He’s had to deal with more by the age of 23 than most of us deal with in a lifetime. Surely with all the money swilling around the AFL there are resources and professionals available to help him straighten his head out.Get him focused again.

If he doesn’t rejoin us I think the Swans would be a great fit. They have a strong culture and history of rehabilitating players. They'll give him the support he needs. He'll be out of the limelight as well in sydney. I'm certainly not prepared to write off his AFL career and wouldn’t be surprised if he blossomed there.

Anyways I hope he’s happy whatever he decides to do.

25 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The last "strike" is shacking up with a lady after returning from Qld while meant to be in quarantine. I wouldn't hang him on that.

Completely agree. Any young fella in his shoes would have done the exact same thing. 

5 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

 Betcha they are thinking of his deployment in their future game plans. 

Has Jesse joined the army?

Given all the ‘talk’ on here that we couldn’t get rid of damaged Jesse quick enough - Mahoney must nearly get a statue at the G considering he got 6 & 23 for him 

37 minutes ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

Given all the ‘talk’ on here that we couldn’t get rid of damaged Jesse quick enough - Mahoney must nearly get a statue at the G considering he got 6 & 23 for him 

How would Freo be feeling given up pick 6....Loved Hogan but he has lots of issues which I hope he can fix & dosent fade a way, joining a 3rd club within 4 seasons is not a good recipe  for success

Edited October 21, 20204 yr by Demonsone

34 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

Surprised by the pessimism about Jesse here. He was an elite talent and can be again. Never any trouble for us other than he wanted to go home.

I was at a supporters function a couple of years back with a senior employee and it's fair to say that the MFC did a very good job of keeping Hogan's issues under wraps.  He was often an off-field challenge.

There's a reason a contracted player was traded.

44 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

I was at a supporters function a couple of years back with a senior employee and it's fair to say that the MFC did a very good job of keeping Hogan's issues under wraps.  He was often an off-field challenge.

There's a reason a contracted player was traded.

I’d heard he liked to party but that’s hardly unusual. It didn’t seem to affect his performances but it sounds like there was more to it. Are you at liberty to divulge further details?

Good luck Jesse!