Hypothetical should the club consider Lyon if he wanted to coach in 2021?

  

Edited May 20, 20205 yr by Fork 'em

No way. I'd take Montagna as an assistant who was doing match analysis for him.

Both Clarkson and Dimma almost lost their jobs and they have gone on to be the dominant coaches of the decade. 

Let's stick by Goody

1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

Hypothetical should the club consider Lyon if he wanted to coach in 2021?

Yes he gets the best out of his troops and is not as defensive now.

If not Coach then an Assistant 

Maybe as an assistant coach as 58er said

If we have a 5-12 or 4-13 season and finish say 15th or below, I’d be asking a question. Though I think given the c19 circumstances, it’s going to be hard to judge 2020 in any format.  

7 hours ago, 58er said:

Yes he gets the best out of his troops and is not as defensive now.

If not Coach then an Assistant 

 

5 hours ago, joshua said:

Maybe as an assistant coach as 58er said

So we have Allan Richardson and Ross Lyon as assistant coaches in a financially constrained environment?     ... Righto

Might as well put on John Worsfold and Mark Thompson as well for good measure.

36 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

If we have a 5-12 or 4-13 season and finish say 15th or below, I’d be asking a question. Though I think given the c19 circumstances, it’s going to be hard to judge 2020 in any format.  

17 other teams are faced with c19 also with some interstate teams having  to play interstate,  I’d love to see Goody succeed but would need to look at it if we have another disaster like 2019. Only issue I can see would be the $$$ & the financial impact of c19

Edited May 20, 20205 yr by Hogan2014

8 hours ago, 58er said:

Yes he gets the best out of his troops and is not as defensive now.

If not Coach then an Assistant 

I'd get him as a match day runner

Edited May 20, 20205 yr by chookrat

30 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

17 other teams are faced with c19 also with some interstate teams having  to play interstate,  I’d love to see Goody succeed but would need to look at it if we have another disaster like 2019. Only issue I can see would be the $$$ & the financial impact of c19

i don't see how it's feasible to ditch goodwin at the end of 2020 regardless of our results

we can't afford to pay out / negotiate a way out of two years of his contract, as he's signed til the end of 2022

i certainly wouldn't be looking at ross lyon as an option

Read whole thread thinking it was a discussion about Garry Lyon. Had to read again. Response not much different. 

Oh no, please!

No how about we stick with the 1 coach for awhile. We don't need to go into this sacking mode all the time. Stability would be helpful. Goodwin will be ok. 

The question we need to ask - is Goodwin the type of reputable character that would fall on his sword should we win just 3-4 games, and put the club first before his hip pocket? If so, it gives the club a lot of flexibility as Goodwin would likely receive a far less pay out than getting sacked.

From what I saw in round 1, it's not looking good, but the apologists will no doubt blame it on an external factor rather than judging the product that was delivered on the field. According to Lever, the club was fuming after its performance rather than patting themselves on the back for out scoring West Coast 2 goals to 1 in the last quarter.

However, It's probably as good a time as ever to be an under performing coach with a few years of security. I don't think pay-outs are going to be very trendy over the next couple of years.

Having said all that, Goodwin should be capable of winning at least 7 games this year which will ensure he goes into 2021, albeit under a little pressure. We should be splitting wins and losses over the Norths, St Kilda''s Sydney's and Essendons of the league to get us to 7 or so wins.

As for Ross Lyon for 2021, I wouldn't rule him out.

 

9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Having said all that, Goodwin should be capable of winning at least 7 games this year which will ensure he goes into 2021, albeit under a little pressure. We should be splitting wins and losses over the Norths, St Kilda''s Sydney's and Essendons of the league to get us to 7 or so wins

Interesting. In a post that seems years ago I said that 8 wins would see him safe for 2021. That of course assumed a 22 game season so 7 wins in  a 17 game season is a fair call.

I have little confidence in either the gameplan or our player development. Would love to be proved wrong because if we go 0-3 the interest in the season will drop to near zero for many of us.

11 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

No way. I'd take Montagna as an assistant who was doing match analysis for him.

Both Clarkson and Dimma almost lost their jobs and they have gone on to be the dominant coaches of the decade. 

Let's stick by Goody

2018 is looking like the anomoly.

Unbelievable that our fwd line delivery is so pathetic. Still.

You can believe in miracles but its fantasy to think he is going to magically turn this around.

 

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

2018 is looking like the anomoly.

Unbelievable that our fwd line delivery is so pathetic. Still.

You can believe in miracles but its fantasy to think he is going to magically turn this around.

 

Pointless thread Lyon will never Coach Melb even if he coaches again.  Goody will Coach us in 2021 and 2022....we forget very quickly theysteady improvement under him from 2016-18 time for stability and sticking with program...2018 being the anomaly is a ridiculous statement only repeated because Gary Lyon said it

Edited May 21, 20205 yr by Ethan Tremblay

7 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

If we have a 5-12 or 4-13 season and finish say 15th or below, I’d be asking a question. Though I think given the c19 circumstances, it’s going to be hard to judge 2020 in any format.  

Why?? If we play similarly to last year then we would be negligent in not assessing all avenues regardless of the changes that this season promises.Part of the process would have to be looking at ALL personel including coach. I would not discount Ross Lyon from any such conversation if we had another poor season!

Never say Never!

7 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

 

So we have Allan Richardson and Ross Lyon as assistant coaches in a financially constrained environment?     ... Righto

Might as well put on John Worsfold and Mark Thompson as well for good measure.

Get Neeld back!!! Also!!!

I'd prefer Yze has been under the coach of the century. Hawthorn have a pretty good record with their assistant coaches with the exception of Bolton.

8 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Might as well put on John Worsfold and Mark Thompson as well for good measure.

Maybe not as coaches, but these guys have "contacts" if we wanted to augment our "revenue stream".

No to Lyon, is still have hope for Goodwin but 2020/2021 are huge years when you look at the age of certain players on the list. If we have another bottom 4 finish then I do think Goodwin should be in the cross hairs, but I don't think Lyon is the answer.

I'd hire him just to do the after match press conferences.

Hnmm 

1 The Secret of the OOOZE

2 Cameron the Bruce  ASST

3 Rod Grinter nufff said ASST

4 Brad Green ASST

5  Daniel Cross ASST

6 Graham Yeats ( well respected TAC)  ASST

6 Could John Northey be Mentor material??????

Just in an ideal and fanciful idealistic world 

But having said that no disrespect to currents and Goody

Just discusinn!!