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I see us waiting til draft day, waiting to see who is available at our pick 10 (slipped to 11 or 12) and the certainty of the players on offer enticing another club to take the plunge.

I think 10 and 28 comfortably gets us 15 & 20 from GC, maybe a little bit more.

Then you can grab Pickett with 20, and maybe a Weightman, Bergman or Rantall with 15.

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Take 3, 10, 28 all to draft. At 10, take whoever is leftover out of Kemp, Stephens, Serong, Ash. Young is now off the cards for us it seems unfortunately. I’d be disappointed if we split pic

not thilled with this constant trying to split the picks and take us further down the pecking order. we only have a very limited number of slots available. we should be taking the best players we can.

Bear with me. The two later picks could equal pick 4. Any set worth more points than pick 4 would become more valuable to GWS, if we clarified we would be bidding on Green and assuming they plann

41 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I see us waiting til draft day, waiting to see who is available at our pick 10 (slipped to 11 or 12) and the certainty of the players on offer enticing another club to take the plunge.

I think 10 and 28 comfortably gets us 15 & 20 from GC, maybe a little bit more.

Then you can grab Pickett with 20, and maybe a Weightman, Bergman or Rantall with 15.

I think the big risk at the moment is that Pickett is taken by Hawks, Port or Doggies after our pick 10.

Highly doubt we can split pick with Port, as they want all 3 picks before 18 before a bid on Mead, therefore I doubt 28 is of interest. This leaves Geelong and GC as options, but the risk may be too great we will miss out on Pickett at those picks.

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43 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I see us waiting til draft day, waiting to see who is available at our pick 10 (slipped to 11 or 12) and the certainty of the players on offer enticing another club to take the plunge.

I think 10 and 28 comfortably gets us 15 & 20 from GC, maybe a little bit more.

Then you can grab Pickett with 20, and maybe a Weightman, Bergman or Rantall with 15.

I wonder how many spots GC have. Will they use 20? If not, they won't use 28 either. Maybe we can keep that too (although maybe we won't  have space to use 28 if we have 3, 15 and 20)

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2 hours ago, whelan45 said:

I think the big risk at the moment is that Pickett is taken by Hawks, Port or Doggies after our pick 10.

Highly doubt we can split pick with Port, as they want all 3 picks before 18 before a bid on Mead, therefore I doubt 28 is of interest. This leaves Geelong and GC as options, but the risk may be too great we will miss out on Pickett at those picks.

The other concern is Hawthorn have a future first round pick to play with, as do Freo, Collingwood, no doubt Gold Coast and several other teams. North have 3 picks between 25-30 and the Cats obviously have a big hand.

Port used their future first to get pick 16 from Brisbane, so I'm not sure Collingwood or Hawthorn will be able to buy a pick inside of that range. But Freo, maybe if a team takes a chance on them not being very good next year.

My guess is Hawthorn, Port and the Dogs all stay at 11-13, they'll want guys ranked in their top 7-10 players and will pick them, it's too hard to say no to a Kemp, Stephens, Weightman pick there I think.

But 14-25 could be an absolute minefield or teams going up or down the order with future first round picks and 2nd rounders flying in for players.

The trade down to 14/15 and still get Pickett could work - although there's less chance given our intentions are apparently telegraphed all over the Herald Sun - but having any idea of who will last to 17/20 with the second part of that deal would be nearly impossible.

 

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9 hours ago, Mach5 said:

I see us waiting til draft day, waiting to see who is available at our pick 10 (slipped to 11 or 12) and the certainty of the players on offer enticing another club to take the plunge.

I think 10 and 28 comfortably gets us 15 & 20 from GC, maybe a little bit more.

Then you can grab Pickett with 20, and maybe a Weightman, Bergman or Rantall with 15.

Yes it is likely Cats will offer 14 and 17 or Suns offer 15 and 20.  Interesting offers but I’d still stick with pick 10.  It’s likely to get a slider from the top 4-5 players rated behind Rowell and Anderson.  Kemp or Ash or Serong or Stephens could be available. 

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16 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I would be happy with Ash, Serong or Stephens slipping through to number 10.

 

Maybe Kemp...but I think Sydney or Carlton will snap him up.

 

If we are taking Pickett, then I hope Sydney take him, so we won’t have to revisit the draft over and over if Kemp becomes a star.

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On 11/24/2019 at 12:04 PM, Mach5 said:

I see us waiting til draft day, waiting to see who is available at our pick 10 (slipped to 11 or 12) and the certainty of the players on offer enticing another club to take the plunge.

I think 10 and 28 comfortably gets us 15 & 20 from GC, maybe a little bit more.

Then you can grab Pickett with 20, and maybe a Weightman, Bergman or Rantall with 15.

I think there is some chance of getting Kemp at 15 and Pickett at 20 i think most on here would be pretty happy with that result. 

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7 hours ago, Redleg said:

If we are taking Pickett, then I hope Sydney take him, so we won’t have to revisit the draft over and over if Kemp becomes a star.

Watched him closely in his Nat games as many were keen on him early (me included).  Just my amature take but not sure he'll be a Cripps type through the mid Red.  Possibly a very handy one though and a solid utility also, particularly up forward.  Lovely set shot action which should hold him in good stead when played / drifting forward.  Loves a contested mark as well.

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21 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Watched him closely in his Nat games as many were keen on him early (me included).  Just my amature take but not sure he'll be a Cripps type through the mid Red.  Possibly a very handy one though and a solid utility also, particularly up forward.  Lovely set shot action which should hold him in good stead when played / drifting forward.  Loves a contested mark as well.

The glass half empty view on Kemp (ignoring his ACL) is that he is a jack of all trades, master of none. There are many players in the league who seem to be able to float around and play anywhere, but those are rarely the superstars. Doesn't mean he won't be/isn't a gun. But most of the best players are stars of their respective position, not just good at lots of positions. 

That said, I would be happy to see Kemp in the red and blue, if the cards fall that way. Even if he never rises to the top echelon of players. But as it sits now I don't think he's likely to be picked by us

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Twomey just mentioned Melbourne still potentially looking at a further split and, while nothing certain, suggested a deal could be 10 and 28 for Ports 12 and 18. Sounded more like we were canvassing our options and a deal probably unlikely at this stage. 

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I hope we split it now, we might be more inclined to take a slider at 12 if we think we can get Pickett or Weightman at 18 instead of having to take them at 10.

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3 hours ago, Nascent said:

Twomey just mentioned Melbourne still potentially looking at a further split and, while nothing certain, suggested a deal could be 10 and 28 for Ports 12 and 18. Sounded more like we were canvassing our options and a deal probably unlikely at this stage. 

For Port to make that trade they need to believe that Hawthorn will take the player they want at 11.

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Still praying this is how it went down:

GWS want assurance from us we won't bid on Green before trading for pick 4. We say "ok we won't bid, but you gotta promise not to pick Young or Sydney's preferred player, and Sydney, you gotta promise not to pick Young or bid on Green." A trade of words if you will.

We then go to Freo who want to trade for 8 and say "alright we'll only do the trade if you promise not to pick Young or Carlton's player, and Carlton in return also can't pick Young".

Maybe we got Adelaide involved as well. And BAM Young gets to pick 10.... I can dream.

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6 minutes ago, CRomey said:

Still praying this is how it went down:

GWS want assurance from us we won't bid on Green before trading for pick 4. We say "ok we won't bid, but you gotta promise not to pick Young or Sydney's preferred player, and Sydney, you gotta promise not to pick Young or bid on Green." A trade of words if you will.

We then go to Freo who want to trade for 8 and say "alright we'll only do the trade if you promise not to pick Young or Carlton's player, and Carlton in return also can't pick Young".

Maybe we got Adelaide involved as well. And BAM Young gets to pick 10.... I can dream.

What, dream we get done for draft tampering? 

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22 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

For Port to make that trade they need to believe that Hawthorn will take the player they want at 11.

Don't think Port want McAsey but Hawks do. If Adelaide take Dylan Stephens then it might all work.

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Speaking to AFL.com.au's Draft Night Countdown on Wednesday, Geelong list manager Stephen Wells replied in the affirmative when asked if he would be willing to part with some of his prized selections to move up the order in a bid to land defender Fischer McAsey.

"Yeah we would. Not just Fischer, but any of the players really that we think are top-10 players," Wells said.

"We're looking to improve our position in the draft but we're not willing to give up the farm to do it, so to speak.

Cats put first-round picks on the table to move up draft order

 

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10 minutes ago, Dr. Mubutu said:

What, dream we get done for draft tampering? 

Come on. This really isn't the kind of tampering they're worried about. It doesn't unfairly disadvantage anyone, every club benefits. Clubs try to scare each other by threatening particular picks through the media as it is.

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On 11/26/2019 at 2:50 PM, Nascent said:

Twomey just mentioned Melbourne still potentially looking at a further split and, while nothing certain, suggested a deal could be 10 and 28 for Ports 12 and 18. Sounded more like we were canvassing our options and a deal probably unlikely at this stage. 

And why wouldn’t Port use #10 on Pickett? Who do we get with #18 (assuming we draft someone decent at #12)?

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14 minutes ago, CRomey said:

Come on. This really isn't the kind of tampering they're worried about. It doesn't unfairly disadvantage anyone, every club benefits. Clubs try to scare each other by threatening particular picks through the media as it is.

It's also the MFC way to be guilty/not guilty of an offence at the same time (eg Tanking)

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16 minutes ago, CBDees said:

And why wouldn’t Port use #10 on Pickett? Who do we get with #18 (assuming we draft someone decent at #12)?

No idea. Your guess is as good as mine.

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