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7 minutes ago, binman said:

Ouch.

I'll think twice before engaging with you in a battle of wits.

In all seriousness, this could be a good appointment but there is little wow factor or certainty about it and it is  mundane footy news for AFL followers.  If we get Roughy or Lewis in any capacity I will be excited so let see how it all plays out.

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7 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I read a few weeks back that Brad Green sadly lost his wife. Was he an assistant at any club? He could kick straight.

 

I don't want to come across insensitive here, but I think Green now has his hands full looking after his young boys.
I wouldn't expect him to be seeking an assistant coach role anytime too soon.

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4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Macca came in as development coach and mentor to Goodwin.  Richardson seems a really honest, hardworking bloke but I just don't see that he has the credentials for the coach mentor part:

  • He hasn't shown he can build a successful game plan. 
  • The saints list management was poor in his tenure. 
  • Doesn't have coaching finals experience and then a long time ago
  • Hasn't been at a 'successful' club
  • Hasn't had any non-coaching football roles. 

With that background I just don't see how he could guide Goodwin thru those areas and in particular help him avoid the pitfalls he fell into in the off-season.

If we have a coach mentor/director role we need someone who has had some success, imv

It appears to be putting just another step in the stairwell, down near the bottom. As it is, Goodwin is still just one step above. 

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Richo is a great get...I had hoped we would pick him up when the Saints were making life hard for him.

Forget his senior record, not all coaches excel in the senior role.

Richo is a very, very highly regarded assistant.

For the new sayers on here, you seriously have no idea...

 

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3 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

I'd say Ratten is after the No.1 job. 

But I agree with you're post, Ratt on face value seems a good coach as well.

If Goodwin could see Ratten coming to the MFC, he'd shake in his boots about his own role, his widespread credibility and record. So, Goody put his finger in the pie and has thus seen and enabled an early firming-up of another (Richardson) whose pedigree is sure to be considered lower than his own at the present moment. Something 'Putinesque' about that strategy, don't you think? Just a thought....

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15 minutes ago, rjay said:

Richo is a great get...I had hoped we would pick him up when the Saints were making life hard for him.

Forget his senior record, not all coaches excel in the senior role.

Richo is a very, very highly regarded assistant.

For the new sayers on here, you seriously have no idea...

 

If he is an assistant coach only then great. If he is guiding and mentoring Goody - not so great. 

I doubt he will be employed as an assistant only but we will see

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14 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

In all seriousness, this could be a good appointment but there is little wow factor or certainty about it and it is  mundane footy news for AFL followers.  If we get Roughy or Lewis in any capacity I will be excited so let see how it all plays out.

Agreed it may not have a great wow factor. But the signing of a respected ex senior AFL coach who reporatably  had a number of options in the industry can only be framed as a positive. If for no other reason than for the fact he must rate us.

Signing richo runs completely contrary to the club is in crisis and has major issues narrative that some posters, yourself included, have been running hard with. As does the signing of burgess.

Good work from Mahoney and the club. Kudos.

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Those who are reeling off his poor win/loss record as a senior coach need to look at it in context - he took over the Saints when they were beginning a complete rebuild after Watters left, not even Clarko would have had a decent win/loss in his first two years on that basis.   There was clear linear improvement until last year (a bit like us) and I don't agree that their game plan wasn't good; it was based on speed and pressure and when they had the cattle to implement it, they were pretty good, as we found out on too many occasions.  In fact, we got completely outcoached by them in Round 5 when they played rope a dope with us.    I think he did a remarkable job this year without Carlisle, Hannebery, Roberton, Geary, McCartin, Steven for most of the year, all of whom at their best would walk into any side (and definitely ours!).  

I think it's a great get and brings some valuable experience to the coaching group.

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2 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

Ouch….

@Ethan Tremblay, I don't mean to be a pain but I don't generally read the HS. I find their material to be mainly..  rubbish.

But regardless I had a quick look for completeness sake (after you commented on my thoughts) and I'd love for clarity purposes if you could point out where in the article it says Richo and Burgess worked together in the past and also where it mentions the MFC were planning on changing the gameplan/strategy.

Thanks in advance 

PS: I do enjoy the newsbreakers stuff... no hard feelings

Love UH

#UnleashHellTheNewsBreakerHowDoesHeDoIt?  The last bit is do it, not dolt.

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To be honest, I have no idea or opinion on this appointment. There is no clue as to his role within the structure of the coaching panel. Ask me again around the bye next year when we have some indication on the progress or lack thereof.

 

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3 minutes ago, sisso said:

Well we are certainly great at employing people with no idea about winning one!

Perhaps, but we've also employed people who have - Goodwin played in back to back flags, and McCartney was heavily involved at Geelong during their run.  I guess my point is that I think that the whole "premiership player" or "involved in a premiership" is often overrated.  Plenty of duds have premiership medallions and plenty of stars don't.  

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