Joel Wilkinson legal action - racism & sexual harassment

[SFebes 4,694]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-25/making-a-stand

 

This is about to rare its head again, just on SEN that he will take legal action against the AFL, clubs and players re racism and sexual harassment. His lawyer about to speak to the media shortly.

I didn't even know this happened back then, sounds serious.

[Diamond_Jim 11,968]

The AFL football field is a workplace like any other so I cannot see any reason why it would not succeed if he can prove the usual requirements. I can see liability against the club and the player being easier to establish than against the AFL itself if it does ever get to court.

Many of the AFL practices regarding player welfare are driven not necessarily by concern for the well being of the player but by the desire to avoid future legal claims.

[jnrmac 19,269]

We live in a grievance culture where everyone holds the right not to be 'offended' and many actually go out of their way to look for offence.

Don't know the speciific circumstances of this player (have never heard of him before now) but it seems like as long as people take offence (for offence is always taken and never given) then we will continue to have these issues.

Check out this pathetic example of a woman professor (of gender studies no less) that claims she was offended when pushing the buttons in a lift and a man made a lame joke saying "ladies' lingerie". I am not kidding.  https://www.chronicle.com/article/He-Makes-a-Joke-She-Isn-t/243350 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,187]

10 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We live in a grievance culture where everyone holds the right not to be 'offended' and many actually go out of their way to look for offence.

Don't know the speciific circumstances of this player (have never heard of him before now) but it seems like as long as people take offence (for offence is always taken and never given) then we will continue to have these issues.

Check out this pathetic example of a woman professor (of gender studies no less) that claims she was offended when pushing the buttons in a lift and a man made a lame joke saying "ladies' lingerie". I am not kidding.  https://www.chronicle.com/article/He-Makes-a-Joke-She-Isn-t/243350 

Pretty sure being called a 'black c***' in your workplace (or anywhere for that matter) falls outside of 'grievance culture'.

 

 

[Return to Glory 7,787]

Lawyers just must love this. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

[SFebes 4,694]

1 minute ago, Return to Glory said:

Lawyers just must love this. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

I wonder if Harry O will reappear from wherever he is, don't think we had any issues with but he used to give it to Collingwood.

[Return to Glory 7,787]

4 minutes ago, SFebey said:

I wonder if Harry O will reappear from wherever he is, don't think we had any issues with but he used to give it to Collingwood.

Honestly SFebey, I'm desperate for someone to abuse me in the workplace. Anything will do; fat honky, middle aged, Melbourne supporter. Anything. You won't even know you've done it until the court summons appears.

Edited May 9, 2018 by Return to Glory

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1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

We live in a grievance culture where everyone holds the right not to be 'offended' and many actually go out of their way to look for offence.

Don't know the speciific circumstances of this player (have never heard of him before now) but it seems like as long as people take offence (for offence is always taken and never given) then we will continue to have these issues.

Check out this pathetic example of a woman professor (of gender studies no less) that claims she was offended when pushing the buttons in a lift and a man made a lame joke saying "ladies' lingerie". I am not kidding.  https://www.chronicle.com/article/He-Makes-a-Joke-She-Isn-t/243350 

Why didn't he just keep his lame mouth shut?

[hemingway 7,601]

12 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

Lawyers just must love this. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

And don't forget the media. Manna from heaven. 

Getting worried, someone is going to dig up some dirt on poor old Ernesto soon. 

[SFebes 4,694]

Update: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-09/joel-wilkinson-action-against-afl/9742962

[jnrmac 19,269]

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Pretty sure being called a 'black c***' in your workplace (or anywhere for that matter) falls outside of 'grievance culture'.

 

 

Like I said, I know nothing about the specific circumstances of this player.

[monoccular 16,328]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

We live in a grievance culture where everyone holds the right not to be 'offended' and many actually go out of their way to look for offence.

Don't know the speciific circumstances of this player (have never heard of him before now) but it seems like as long as people take offence (for offence is always taken and never given) then we will continue to have these issues.

Check out this pathetic example of a woman professor (of gender studies no less) that claims she was offended when pushing the buttons in a lift and a man made a lame joke saying "ladies' lingerie". I am not kidding.  https://www.chronicle.com/article/He-Makes-a-Joke-She-Isn-t/243350 

I will have to remember to steer well clear of Merrimack College (wherever that is) .... the Professor sounds like someone just looking for trouble where it ain’t. 

It is folk like her who give the whole equality / anti discrimination movement a bad name in some circles.

And totally different, in another world, from being called a black c..... 

[beelzebub 22,271]

3 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I will have to remember to steer well clear of Merrimack College (wherever that is) .... the Professor sounds like someone just looking for trouble where it ain’t. 

It is folk like her who give the whole equality / anti discrimination movement a bad name in some circles.

And totally different, in another world, from being called a black c..... 

The clue was "Professor of Women's and Gender Studies"

Is that professional 'bee in bonnet' stuff?

The world's gone completely utterly PC mad. 

No place for bullying though.

That said.... kitchens are hot....locker rooms...not usually the epitome of 'places for sensitive types' 

[DaveyDee 421]

4 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Pretty sure being called a 'black c***' in your workplace (or anywhere for that matter) falls outside of 'grievance culture'.

 

 

Well said but some people think they have "freedom of speech" to spread whatever hate they want.

More commonly known as "hate speech"

I've seen and heard it directed towards our players, coaches & administrators for many, many years. The "AFL" has a duty of care to provide a racist free environment both on and off the field. 

 

[monoccular 16,328]

37 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

Well said but some people think they have "freedom of speech" to spread whatever hate they want.

More commonly known as "hate speech"

I've seen and heard it directed towards our players, coaches & administrators for many, many years. The "AFL" has a duty of care to provide a racist free environment both on and off the field. 

 

Do they have a duty of care to provide, or a duty of care to make every reasonable effort to provide?..... not sure that absolute freedom from racism is possible if the public at large and allowed into the grounds.

[dl4e 5,642]

So what is the sexual harrasment all about ?????

[daisycutter 28,663]

2 hours ago, hemingway said:

And don't forget the media. Manna from heaven. 

Getting worried, someone is going to dig up some more dirt on poor old Ernesto soon. 

fixed it for ya, ernie

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Goodness me...banter is removed

It is what it is

[darkhorse72 1,745]

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

The clue was "Professor of Women's and Gender Studies"

Is that professional 'bee in bonnet' stuff?

The world's gone completely utterly PC mad. 

No place for bullying though.

That said.... kitchens are hot....locker rooms...not usually the epitome of 'places for sensitive types' 

Any course at Uni/COllege with studies in it is not a real course.  Is what they create to push through low academic students to get their money.

[Supermercado 2,646]

Hope it opens the door for Harry O to bankrupt the Pies.

[monoccular 16,328]

5 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

Hope it opens the door for Harry O to bankrupt the Pies.

Careful Super - he may take you on for not using his “proper” name. 

[Supermercado 2,646]

5 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Careful Super - he may take you on for not using his “proper” name. 

I am hoping the offences took place before he changed the name m'lud.

[McQueen 17,864]

I hope he gets some closure or some level of satisfaction from what he’s undertaking.

Moreso than what he might get from getting on with his life.

Maybe he needs this resolved in order to do that?

FIIK.

[bandicoot 1,395]

5 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Pretty sure being called a 'black c***' in your workplace (or anywhere for that matter) falls outside of 'grievance culture'.

 

 

The guy is looking for a quick buck... such a pathetic human being. If you had an issue with a player abusing you then take it up then. Don’t wait 7 years when you are broke and unemployed and then try milk the system. 

[dworship 3,342]

5 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Pretty sure being called a 'black c***' in your workplace (or anywhere for that matter) falls outside of 'grievance culture'.

 

 

At various times in my life I've been called a smart c, a dumb c, a young c, and currently an old c. Not once in these assaults on my feelings did I think I should lodge a grievance. Perhaps that was me agreeing with the perp at the time or it was more probable I didn't give a rats *nacker for the opinion of unsophisticated, illiterate neanderthals. Sorry, but I think feelings have become so "precious" we are at risk of being sanitised to death.