On 16/08/2018 at 02:05, rjay said:

...and he kicked 4 in a tight game against the dogs.

6 against the Hawks last year...so...

Spent more time in the ruck.

Played a lot of footy in inclement conditions where you might even struggle to get a kick.

Look, we're in a time where no one is kicking the big bags of goals. 

There's no Frosty Miller or Freddie Cook around these days, that time has passed us by.

It's not the measure of a player now.

Weid will fill a role and do it better than anyone else we've got at present.

His time has come.

Like it or not we need to know if he can step up in a big game and it might as well be now because if he can't then there's no point us being in finals just to make up the numbers. Better to have good intel coming into the trade/draft period.

Hogan, Lever and Viney leave a big hole in our structure.

As an aside, remember how Boyd was at the Dogs??? Couldn't catch a cold then suddenly turned it around at the end of 2016.

You just never know.

+1

h8erz gonna h8, yo

  On 16/08/2018 at 02:09, Redleg said:

Me maybe but not you.

you available this weekend ?

  On 16/08/2018 at 00:55, chook fowler said:

He could have done better during the bye.

his opponent had zero stats. that's the real story.

  On 16/08/2018 at 02:31, beelzebub said:

you available this weekend ?

Yep.

Goodwin said Weideman had worked “really hard” to handle the demands of playing in the AFL.

“We’ve seen a huge change in his physical capabilities,” he said.

“He’s launching at the ball incredibly well at VFL level, so it’s an opportunity for him – a really strong opportunity – at an important time for us.”

 

From his media conference today

Not off him for good, but in this massive game he'd want to do better than his career average of 3.3 kicks per game*. VFL performances are fine but no help if you can't translate it to the big time.

 

* Unless he kicks three from three kicks.

  On 16/08/2018 at 05:08, Supermercado said:

Not off him for good, but in this massive game he'd want to do better than his career average of 3.3 kicks per game*. VFL performances are fine but no help if you can't translate it to the big time.

 

* Unless he kicks three from three kicks.

And has two more goal assists by hand...

  On 16/08/2018 at 03:13, Redleg said:

Yep.

can you make your own way over to perth ??   

  On 15/08/2018 at 02:26, loges said:

Very true, watching him play to me he seems like a passive participant, that is the game goes on around him without him trying to influence it in any way. If selected he must try ti have an impact some how.

Mobility and aggression at the ball is his need for the team. We do not really want to continue with the long bombs on top or over his head representing pathetic 50m arc entries from the midfield. We need a mobile forward with power to go, to get the ball, to take that ball and use it effectively - all in the same stride. Crumbers should accompany him to improve effectiveness and team intent. Jack R'woldt at the Tiges changed his game to go get ball - no just rely on big speccies (although he in known for these) but on sheer intent and purpose, representing (almost) the only tall on the Tiges' fwd line. The Weed ain't too young, nor underdeveloped if he wants to be effective - he just needs g & d to do it after at least two years of tolerant practice in a forward role. He can kick them if in possession. So far, he has not justified his footballing salary and the wishes of the Club. 

  On 16/08/2018 at 05:48, Deemania since 56 said:

Mobility and aggression at the ball is his need for the team. We do not really want to continue with the long bombs on top or over his head representing pathetic 50m arc entries from the midfield. We need a mobile forward with power to go, to get the ball, to take that ball and use it effectively - all in the same stride. Crumbers should accompany him to improve effectiveness and team intent. Jack R'woldt at the Tiges changed his game to go get ball - no just rely on big speccies (although he in known for these) but on sheer intent and purpose, representing (almost) the only tall on the Tiges' fwd line. The Weed ain't too young, nor underdeveloped if he wants to be effective - he just needs g & d to do it after at least two years of tolerant practice in a forward role. He can kick them if in possession. So far, he has not justified his footballing salary and the wishes of the Club. 

are you part of the FD mate?

All this talk...

Let's just wait and see on Sunday.

Like Goodwin said,  this is his opportunity and he's up against McGovern and Hurn who are excellent backman so he's clearly going to have his work cut out for him. 

  On 16/08/2018 at 05:08, Supermercado said:

* Unless he kicks three from three kicks.

The Menzel Special.

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Fingers crossed but he's done enough at Casey and is worth another go. His only game this season as 1 of 2 tall forwards was against Richmond where he did a lot of really nice things. 

He has to ruck well to give Max a decent chop out and he has to dig his knees in to McGovern's back as often as possible. 

Tom McDonald now gets relieved of the rucking duties and the title of the main man up forward (if he wasn't already). Tom has to kick the goals. Sam just has to compete.

  On 16/08/2018 at 00:58, Stormy Dee said:

Please give us the same stats for Pedo for the same games.

I’ve really wanted Peds to make it at senior level... he won’t. He may stay on the list another year as a mature back up but he will only ever play if injuries run deep.

Unfortunately He has shown nothing at senior level at all this year, he’s the fittest he has ever been and not been able to make an impact.

 

  On 16/08/2018 at 06:03, DeeSpencer said:

Fingers crossed but he's done enough at Casey and is worth another go. His only game this season as 1 of 2 tall forwards was against Richmond where he did a lot of really nice things. 

He has to ruck well to give Max a decent chop out and he has to dig his knees in to McGovern's back as often as possible. 

Tom McDonald now gets relieved of the rucking duties and the title of the main man up forward (if he wasn't already). Tom has to kick the goals. Sam just has to compete.

So you are suggesting that he plays from behind not in front ?   :-)

  On 16/08/2018 at 06:09, Cards13 said:

I’ve really wanted Peds to make it at senior level... he won’t. He may stay on the list another year as a mature back up but he will only ever play if injuries run deep.

Unfortunately He has shown nothing at senior level at all this year, he’s the fittest he has ever been and not been able to make an impact.

 

He hasn’t shown “nothing”. He’s taken some marks, kicked some goals, laid some tackles and done some ruck work. He’s also racked up a lot of stats in the VFL. He hasn’t been selected enough in the AFL to string together some games and play into some form.

Well he's going to need to offer something more than a couple of possessions and a few tackles. 2 goals would be nice

  On 16/08/2018 at 06:51, Stormy Dee said:

He hasn’t shown “nothing”. He’s taken some marks, kicked some goals, laid some tackles and done some ruck work. He’s also racked up a lot of stats in the VFL. He hasn’t been selected enough in the AFL to string together some games and play into some form.

4 games, 10 marks.. 4 games, 3 goals, ave 3 tackles a game and ave 3 hit outs.. 

I always feel players need more than 1 game in a row to get the pace of senior footy but Peds is not getting it done at senior level.

  On 16/08/2018 at 06:51, Stormy Dee said:

He hasn’t shown “nothing”. He’s taken some marks, kicked some goals, laid some tackles and done some ruck work. He’s also racked up a lot of stats in the VFL. He hasn’t been selected enough in the AFL to string together some games and play into some form.

In 2017 Pedo was competitive and had a good season. In 2018 at AFL level he has been rubbish. Up forward he has been useless, kicked less than a goal a game and got in others way with poor leads. He was tried down back as a last resort to revive his career and on the weekends showing that move is a bust. He was probably our worst player against the Swans. Only Hunt and Jetta has less impact, andthat was because they both missed part of the game injured and concussed. At 32 years old next season, he’ll be lucky to get a one year contract purely as a last resort to cover injury. As an AFL player he is finished. Disappointing performance his year considering he was competitive last year. The end has come quickly for him and a few others it seems.

  On 16/08/2018 at 06:47, monoccular said:

So you are suggesting that he plays from behind not in front ?   ?

Well if we're going for a like for like with Hogan out, then yes. 20 metres behind the opposition at every opportunity. 

Weido has his chance to step up and it couldn't be more important

I'm sceptical but looking forward to being proven wrong!

Built like Tarzan

Let's see who he plays like...

  On 16/08/2018 at 09:05, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Weido has his chance to step up and it couldn't be more important

I'm sceptical but looking forward to being proven wrong!

Built like Tarzan

Let's see who he plays like...

That's a pretty harsh comment on a kid who's body is only starting to grow to meet the demands of AFL footy.

Hardly yet built like Tarzan.

He's been willing if not always able. I haven't seen him putting in the short steps and not having a go.

At 21 he has time on his side.

I jokingly refer to Jenkins of the Adelaide variety as Jane ('Nasher' doesn't like me doing it), partly because of the alliteration... but he's had years in the system and is built like a brick....

...just he seems to like playing the small forward role.

  On 16/08/2018 at 09:20, rjay said:

That's a pretty harsh comment on a kid who's body is only starting to grow to meet the demands of AFL footy.

Hardly yet built like Tarzan.

He's been willing if not always able. I haven't seen him putting in the short steps and not having a go.

At 21 he has time on his side.

I jokingly refer to Jenkins of the Adelaide variety as Jane ('Nasher' doesn't like me doing it), partly because of the alliteration... but he's had years in the system and is built like a brick....

...just he seems to like playing the small forward role.

He's practically the same size as McGovern and eyeballing him close up at training a few weeks ago was confronting - he's a big unit

Agree he's young but the point is challenge is set, opportunity is his to tear it apart

  On 16/08/2018 at 09:20, rjay said:

That's a pretty harsh comment on a kid who's body is only starting to grow to meet the demands of AFL footy.

Hardly yet built like Tarzan.

He's been willing if not always able. I haven't seen him putting in the short steps and not having a go.

At 21 he has time on his side.

I jokingly refer to Jenkins of the Adelaide variety as Jane ('Nasher' doesn't like me doing it), partly because of the alliteration... but he's had years in the system and is built like a brick....

...just he seems to like playing the small forward role.

Thats the whole problem with the discussion on Weid. We're not playing him looking for potential on Sunday he's got a mans job to fill and we need him to fill it. I dont care what he's going to be like in one or two years time we need what he's got NOW....and is he big enough to bring it like there's no tomorrow. . I think I have too many memories of Morton, Gysberts, Cook and Watts  and waiting for the day they fill out and step up. We all know now, with the exception of a game here or there,  they never really  did.  None seemed to have the mongrel required at this level. Weid reminds me of them. I SO want to be wrong about the weid...and will happily eat crow if I am. But I will judge him on what he brings on Sunday not who he might become. 

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Got get 'em, Sam!  I'd love nothing more than to see him kick a few and cement a spot in the side for the rest of the season, however long that may be, with Hogan out.

It's time to get behind him and back him in for a good game!