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[Demonland 72,445]

TERRY WALLACE’S MELBOURNE STARTING 18

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Michael Hibberd

HB: Jayden Hunt, Jake Lever, Angus Brayshaw

C: Bernie Vince, Nathan Jones, James Harmes

HF: Mitch Hannan, Sam Weidemann, Christian Petracca

F: Jeff Garlett, Jesse Hogan, Tom McDonald

R: Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Jack Viney

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

28 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Just listened to the segment. I thought Wallace was absolutely spot on, but for some slightly curious inclusions and omissions in the best 22.

Interesting that he said 'Jack Watts? I personally would've kept him, but it won't hurt the club long term'. Despite the 1 billion posts on that topic here, I think that pretty well sums up that trade perfectly.

 

Spot on...nor the short term either...

[ManDee 7,162]

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

Melk was brilliant in his new forward role.  Was a masterstroke from the coaching staff. He even has the 6th longest steak in the AFL for consecutive games kicking a goal (12 games).

Porterhouse?

[Deemania since 56 6,662]

Wallace at least confirms that there is a 'silly' season and we must assume that pre-season is that moment. Even the Ox was a little flabbergasted by Wallace's selections. Weidemann at CHF - what a misaligned judgement! Oscar at fullback again would be criminal.

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

TERRY WALLACE’S MELBOURNE STARTING 18

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Michael Hibberd

HB: Jayden Hunt, Jake Lever, Angus Brayshaw

C: Bernie Vince, Nathan Jones, James Harmes

HF: Mitch Hannan, Sam Weidemann, Christian Petracca

F: Jeff Garlett, Jesse Hogan, Tom McDonald

R: Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Jack Viney

In - Pedo, ANB

Out - Weidemann, Harmes

I'd expect an interchange of Melksham, Salem, Lewis and Tyson.

 

Other than that, it's a pretty strong team.

[DubDee 25,961]

I love Bernie but he will have to have a big preseason to earn his spot in the 18.  he has lost a yard but mostly his decision making has taken a hit which is mostly a mental issue.

i have him between 19-26 spot at the moment

[Diamond_Jim 12,600]

Would love to know the basis for the inclusion of Weideman.

Let's be honest he has shown little at VFL level and the jury is firmly out as to whether he will make it.

What worries me is that a so called "expert" is so ignorant of our players strengths and weaknesses. Suggests that we are very low profile.

[Brownie 5,981]

15 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I can’t see where we’ll lose a game. 

Norf?

[Gator 17,385]

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

[rjay 24,999]

17 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Would love to know the basis for the inclusion of Weideman.

Let's be honest he has shown little at VFL level and the jury is firmly out as to whether he will make it.

What worries me is that a so called "expert" is so ignorant of our players strengths and weaknesses. Suggests that we are very low profile.

Nah...Terry often says himself that the fans usually know more about their own club than he and other experts do.

Mainly because we watch and take in every little detail.

He has to cover off 18 clubs, I wouldn't take it as a slight on our club or profile...

 

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

23 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Would love to know the basis for the inclusion of Weideman.

Let's be honest he has shown little at VFL level and the jury is firmly out as to whether he will make it.

What worries me is that a so called "expert" is so ignorant of our players strengths and weaknesses. Suggests that we are very low profile.

 

6 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

How on earth can there be so much discrepancy .... 

[Ted Lasso 19,526]

I think the 22 they have named is out dated. I think the days of three talls up forward are probably gone unless they are super mobile. 

 

Id say tommy and hogan are our key targets while fit and weid will eventually reach the point of pushing for a spot. It shouldn’t and won’t be gifted. 

 

Alex Neal Bullen will be one of the first picked for the side

 

i agree with Lewis and dom Tyson being right on the fringe. I suspect both play round one but need to play well to stay in the side 

[Dockett 32 1,239]

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

TERRY WALLACE’S MELBOURNE STARTING 18

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Michael Hibberd

HB: Jayden Hunt, Jake Lever, Angus Brayshaw

C: Bernie Vince, Nathan Jones, James Harmes

HF: Mitch Hannan, Sam Weidemann, Christian Petracca

F: Jeff Garlett, Jesse Hogan, Tom McDonald

R: Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Jack Viney

Starting to look like a bit of a decent side ‘ on paper’ and if they all play to their best we are a show, although I haven’t seen much from Weideman yet.

 

 

 

 

[Willmoy1947 4,104]

16 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I can’t see where we’ll lose a game. 

Don't tell me ET, you know the maggots we're going to get for the whole year......

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2 hours ago, ProDee said:

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

How much gym work (both cardio and weights) is he doing? Watching him last year, he makes an effort to do the one percenters off the ball but can’t take pack marks due to lack of muscle and can’t get to contests ala Riewoldt because he hasn’t developed the tank yet.

I could see him potentially in the 22 but on a flank or in a pocket. Body wise he has work to do.

[loges 6,767]

Its taking a lot of people a long time to realise Hogan plays best at CHF

[Little Goffy 14,583]

9 hours ago, Skuit said:

I'm going to take your word for it but this stat sounds rather iffy.

I double checked it, yep.

Not only did he kick a goal in every game from round 12 on, but he kicked 2 goals or 3 goals three times each!

21 goals in 12 games is a pretty handy contribution!

[Demonland 72,445]

10 hours ago, Skuit said:

I'm going to take your word for it but this stat sounds rather iffy.

The stat is correct but it is for Current Players not All Time.

Consecutive Games Kicking A Goal
Games	Player	Teams	Period	Games	Current Player	Teams	Period
121	Peter McKenna	CW,CA	1968-1974	42	Josh Kennedy	CA,WC	2016-2017
114	Tony Lockett	SK,SY	1993-2002	38	Joe Daniher	ES	2016-2017
98	Gordon Coventry	CW	1932-1937	29	Jack Riewoldt	RI	2016-2017
97	Dick Lee	CW	1910-1918	25	Taylor Walker	AD	2016-2017
90	Doug Wade	GE,NM	1971-1975	14	Peter Wright	GC	2017-
80	Bill Mohr	SK	1933-1938	12	Charlie Dixon	GC,PA	2017-
79	Mark Jackson	ME,SK,GE	1981-1985	12	Jake Melksham	ES,ME	2017-
78	Jack Moriarty	ES,FI	1924-1929	11	Charlie Curnow	CA	2017-
78	Kelvin Templeton	FO,ME	1976-1981	10	Levi Casboult	CA	2017-
77	Sel Murray	NM,RI	1940-1948	10	Cale Hooker	ES	2017-
75	Simon Beasley	FO	1985-1989	10	Jesse White	SY,CW	2016-2017
72	Jason Dunstall	HW	1987-1990	9	Tim Membrey	SY,SK	2017-
71	Lance Franklin	HW,SY	2006-2009	8	Dayne Zorko	BL	2017-
70	Matthew Lloyd	ES	1999-2002	7	Jarrad Waite	CA,NM	2017-

[Bitter but optimistic 22,242]

7 hours ago, ProDee said:

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

An optimistic plan I would think.

However, as I posted on another thread, Weideman is a real wild card, If he comes on, our forward structures have a new flexibility and will be very difficult to man up on.

The pre season will be interesting.

[Gator 17,385]

6 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

An optimistic plan I would think.

However, as I posted on another thread, Weideman is a real wild card, If he comes on, our forward structures have a new flexibility and will be very difficult to man up on.

The pre season will be interesting.

Weideman, Hogan and McDonald all forward doesn't work for me.  And I have reservations about Weideman, but clearly they rate him internally.

[Deemania since 56 6,662]

Having made the decision to recruit him [Weideman] it would be difficult not to keep persisting with him - but it is most likely that the development he needs to make as a forward for us can only be gained with specific training and Casey time of an extended duration to be mirrored in his performance.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I can't see one of Hogan or T Mac playing in the forward pocket to allow Weideman to play CHF.

Surely it's Hogan as FF and T Mac as CHF (or vice versa) before Weideman as CHF.

 

[deelete my account 1,194]

11 hours ago, The Chazz said:

In - Pedo, ANB

Out - Weidemann, Harmes

I'd expect an interchange of Melksham, Salem, Lewis and Tyson.

 

Other than that, it's a pretty strong team.

It's strong, but is it fast enough?

Edited November 23, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[daisycutter 29,627]

no such thing these days as a starting 18. it's a starting 22

you only have to look at who starts on the bench each game, and the time on ground % of each player to realise it's a starting 22

wallace needs to get out of the past

[Josh 1,420]

10 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

An optimistic plan I would think.

However, as I posted on another thread, Weideman is a real wild card, If he comes on, our forward structures have a new flexibility and will be very difficult to man up on.

The pre season will be interesting.

Agreed, but if he comes on do all 3 of him Hogan and TMac play foward?

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Hogan roam up on a wing and float foward a bit like Watts' best games, imagine trying to match up on that? 

Levercutting off fowa d entries for fun, Hibberd and Hunt playing off their man with Hogan and Petracca delivering long 1-1 to TMac or Weid