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NIGHTMARE 

Jesse Hogan's nightmare battles throughout the 2017 season have been well-documented. They began with a two match suspension incurred in Round 2 but worsened a few weeks later when he lost his father Tony to cancer and then soon after, was diagnosed with testicular cancer. He recovered in good time but broke his collarbone in the game against North Melbourne in Hobart and then suffered a hamstring injury in the final game against Collingwood.

All clubs rely not only on the class of their top players but in their capacity to be consistent performers on the field. That Hogan was only able to provide a few glimpses, the highlight being his six goals in Round 22 against Brisbane, provides one of the pointers as to why Melbourne failed so narrowly in its quest to make the finals for the first time in more than a decade.

The Demons will be hoping for better luck with their key power forward who has the strength and power to also provide drive further down the ground as well and that he gets his opportunity to display his prodigious talents in 2018.

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Jesse Hogan

Date of Birth: February 12, 1995

Height: 195cm

Weight: 100kg

Games MFC 2017: 10

Career Total: 51

Goals MFC 2017: 20

Career Total: 105

 

Season 2017 AFL Statistics

Kicks: 91        

Handballs: 51           

Disposals: 142          

Marks: 51       

Scores: 20 goals 6 behinds

Goal Assists: 6

Tackles: 15    

Hitouts: 0

Clearances: 3           

Clangers: 19 

Inside 50s: 26           

Rebound 50s: 2       

Frees For: 9   

Frees Against: 5       

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2015 showed how good a footballer he will be.  2016 and 2017 have shown what a strong person he is. 

Has shown phenomenal resilience to overcome injuries, health issues and loss.  Its now time to rest his young body and soul. 

Comeback in 2018 to take the Dees onward and upward.

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Needs to work on leading at the player and not wrestling all the time and also on second efforts. 

I think he will be a good player but he has plenty to work on if he is going to ride to be an A grader. 

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21 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Annus Horribulus...

They say the darkest hour is before the dawn, Jesse has been through his darkest hour & I'm expecting round 1 2018 to be the start of the dawn of the emergence of Jesse as on of the premier forwards in the AFL.

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4 minutes ago, Deevolution said:

They say the darkest hour is before the dawn, Jesse has been through his darkest hour & I'm expecting round 1 2018 to be the start of the dawn of the emergence of Jesse as on of the premier forwards in the AFL.

Let's hope so. Poor bloke got a Decade of sadness within weeks... :)

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Can't recall an player going through a season like it. We are no closer to assessing how good he will or won't be as a player, but what we can now confidently say is the character of the man is a good one.

My heart goes out to him, I hope his 2018 is magnificent because he is deserving of something going right for him.

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5 minutes ago, doug williams said:

He's fragile and misses too many games through injury.

Trade him for Dixon, Ben Brown or Daniher.

Ben Dixon missed a lot of games early and showed only glimpses in his first few years. Hogan is, and will be a special player.

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1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

Needs to work on leading at the player and not wrestling all the time and also on second efforts. 

I think he will be a good player but he has plenty to work on if he is going to ride to be an A grader. 

Could not agree more with this. Is best when he works over his opponent and then beats them on the lead or reads the flight to outmanoeuvre. Too much time wrestling and trying to get the ball over the back early in the year and last. his haul late in  the season  showed how he should go about it. We need to get a seriously good forward craft coach for him and Weids. 

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It's clearly an AFL Conspiracy to get West Coast back into contention - and with the collusion of the Crows.

Sceptical?

Then ask yourself this - why did the Crows lie down against the Eagles? Because this gave them the chance to tip us out of the finals.

Forget the Swans, we are the team Adelaide fears above all and with the AFL's imprimatur they tanked! and then that free kick in the last few seconds of last night's game? All to clear a path for a West Coast v Adelaide GF.

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24 minutes ago, doug williams said:

He's fragile and misses too many games through injury.

Trade him for Dixon, Ben Brown or Daniher.

Jesse only missed three games between 2015 and 2016. Also, aside from the obvious, I think you'll find that Jesse only missed two to three games this year because of injury.

 

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He and Gawn are our big match winners. If they both fire consistently during the season such that week after week they are both in the top ten on the ground we will have a great season.

It is becoming obvious that his position is now CHF wherever that is these days so I expect his annual goal tally to be around 30 which still leaves that perennial question... "who will kick our goals."

How many times did we hit 100 points ... not often if I recall.

He is contracted until the end of 2019 so at least we will not be consumed by contract discussions in 2018.

Good luck Jesse ... you certainly deserve some !

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2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

He and Gawn are our big match winners. If they both fire consistently during the season such that week after week they are both in the top ten on the ground we will have a great season.

It is becoming obvious that his position is now CHF wherever that is these days so I expect his annual goal tally to be around 30 which still leaves that perennial question... "who will kick our goals."

How many times did we hit 100 points ... not often if I recall.

He is contracted until the end of 2019 so at least we will not be consumed by contract discussions in 2018.

Good luck Jesse ... you certainly deserve some !

8 times over 100.

8 times we scored between 85and 99 winning 5 and loosing 3

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9 minutes ago, --coach-- said:

8 times over 100.

8 times we scored between 85and 99 winning 5 and loosing 3

We had no trouble scoring

our backline was a mess a lot of the time

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he's had a tough year personally so i'll be kind but he needs to improve his defensive pressure. He doesn't apply any at all. And he needs to stop staging for free kicks in marking contests. Also his kicking for goal needs a lot of work.

so whilst he's had a bad year personally i think he needs a strong pre-season otherwise he may lose his spot in the team if pederson continues to bust his arse and perform for us.  If hogan learns to play with defensive intent then i'll forgive him for everything else

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You wouldn't wish the year he has had on your worst enemy.  

We know he has talent in bucket loads, now he just needs a stable season to show it on a consistent basis.  Can't wait to see that happen in 2018.

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On 10/09/2017 at 9:30 AM, Gorgoroth said:

Needs to work on leading at the player and not wrestling all the time and also on second efforts. 

I think he will be a good player but he has plenty to work on if he is going to ride to be an A grader. 

Why? He's a contested marker. Opponents try to avoid going one on one because 99/100 he smokes them. I'd rather him keep at it.

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Unfortunately we only saw glimpses of Jesse's best football this year. This was partly due to self inflicted issues (eg the suspension), but mostly due to run a misfortune that you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy. Hopefully he has combined all the setbacks his career will encounter into one year, and he has a clear run next season.

He will be a star, and if he can get his mind and body right, we will be much better for it next season.  At the very worst you know he will take the opposition's best defender each week, which creates some freedom for those around him. At his best he is a match winner, in a team that has precious few of them.

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One of Goody's biggest battles next year I suspect.

Our most talented player with Watts and as with Petracca has an air of arrogance that we all love and the side needs. But, off-field issues aside, his lack of second efforts are a huge issue.

He's naturally the fittest bloke at the club, yet it's almost impossible to get him to work hard the minute the ball hits the ground. Instead his hand go up in a gesture of disgust to the umps and the ball and his opponent are already long gone. 

At some point Goody will have to decide if it's time for tough-love - just as he has shown to Wattsy.

In a perfect world he won't need to do that and Hoges will naturally be fired up by the fact that Joe D and Ben Brown have gone way past him in the best young forward rankings.

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1 hour ago, praha said:

Why? He's a contested marker. Opponents try to avoid going one on one because 99/100 he smokes them. I'd rather him keep at it.

Really? I see him much better when he leads and moves his opponent around. Just starting in the square and calling for it isn't his best to imo.

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On 10/09/2017 at 11:13 AM, doug williams said:

He's fragile and misses too many games through injury.

Trade him for Dixon, Ben Brown or Daniher.

I trust that this is tongue in cheek. Anyway, even if you were serious, are those guys available, and if so would they be traded anyway?

On 10/09/2017 at 11:29 AM, doug williams said:

It's clearly an AFL Conspiracy to get West Coast back into contention - and with the collusion of the Crows.

Sceptical?

Then ask yourself this - why did the Crows lie down against the Eagles? Because this gave them the chance to tip us out of the finals.

Forget the Swans, we are the team Adelaide fears above all and with the AFL's imprimatur they tanked! and then that free kick in the last few seconds of last night's game? All to clear a path for a West Coast v Adelaide GF.

Is this in the correct thread?

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5 hours ago, Deespicable said:

One of Goody's biggest battles next year I suspect.

Our most talented player with Watts and as with Petracca has an air of arrogance that we all love and the side needs. But, off-field issues aside, his lack of second efforts are a huge issue.

He's naturally the fittest bloke at the club, yet it's almost impossible to get him to work hard the minute the ball hits the ground. Instead his hand go up in a gesture of disgust to the umps and the ball and his opponent are already long gone. 

At some point Goody will have to decide if it's time for tough-love - just as he has shown to Wattsy.

In a perfect world he won't need to do that and Hoges will naturally be fired up by the fact that Joe D and Ben Brown have gone way past him in the best young forward rankings.

I'd like to see Hoges model his game on Tex Walker, not Daniher or Brown. We need him playing authoratively rather than reactively ie moving up the ground and being #1 creator of goal assists like Tex is in the AFL . He has a good kick on him when he gets his confidence up and his footy brain will have him punting a 40-50m pass that sets Watts, Garlett or TMAC into a positive goal scoring position. Him and Watts in that tandem role are when our forward line is at its most damaging.

We dont necessarily need 60-70 goals, we need him being the forward line General that moves up the ground and dictates where  our forwards move to. Which I think suits his personality more, he should be hanging his expectations on positive team-play and nothing is more team play than goal assists. If he hangs his expectations on taking marks and kicking goals, well it's not going to work out for him on many an occasion throughout a match.

If we're playing TMAC forward, we only want him kicking set shots not having to link up and find a player forward with his disposal. 

With enough game time and no injuries, he will get there.

In summary Jesse needs to be in the top 2-5 players for goal assists in the entire AFL next year.

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He had a shocker of a year - but id say ive self checked every night since the announcement was made re cancer.

I'm 12 years older than jesse and it scared the [censored] out of me.

 

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