Farewell Jack Watts

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For the fanboys out there (and you know who you are), here is some music to see Jack out.

 

[spirit of norm smith 16,461]

43 minutes ago, Roost It said:

We didn't pay overs for Lever. The reason we're part paying Watts wage is because he has low market value. That's not the clubs fault that's because he's never worked hard enough or hit enough contests 

Called for an extra shovel given what is being served up here

[—coach— 3,496]

23 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

I agree but this doesn’t give me much confidence in the club and I still don’t trust them that they r making the right decision. 

I wish that Roos was still at the club tbh. 

Fair enough. I guess i look at it as we have a first year coach who will make mistakes (time will tell if this is a mistake), but as long as he makes less mistakes that what he does great we will be just fine.

im more concerned about our fitness staff and will be very interested if we see the same traits as last year (fading at the end of the season, soft tissue injuries etc).

hopefully it’s a great year and we will all forget what we were worried about.

[deelete my account 1,194]

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Too right and getting out of town is a logical consequence. From cosmopolitan Melbourne to the [censored] of the world is a strange move no matter the money on offer. 

Strange move to expand your board shorts business? Some would say its a natural progression.

[hardtack 10,537]

1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Called for an extra shovel given what is being served up here

I hope it was a Spear & Jackson #9 with brass binding around the handle.

[Roost It 1,434]

30 minutes ago, Diamond said:

No. It’s because he has a contract with the Melbourne Football Club. That’s why we have to pay him. Like we paid Travis Johnstone to play for the bears.

If he worked really hard and hit contests we wouldn't even be having this discussion

[Jack Jack Tappy 112]

29 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I remember the 2016 b&f. Jack said he felt awkward on stage and he was usually in the audience  getting pizzed.

roos implored the players to choose greatness and watts returned to be dropped from the pre season games.

you remember what you want. I'll remember another in a long line of unfulfilled talent.

 

30 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I remember the 2016 b&f. Jack said he felt awkward on stage and he was usually in the audience  getting pizzed.

roos implored the players to choose greatness and watts returned to be dropped from the pre season games.

you remember what you want. I'll remember another in a long line of unfulfilled talent.

Why do you try to change reality.  Jack said something along the lines of 'it's taken me a long time to get up here so bear  with me' I don't recall anything about him say I'm normally in the audience getting pizzed

[deelete my account 1,194]

So many precious joules are being generated in here by sending Watts to the Power.

Edited October 17, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[DemonOX 8,791]

6 minutes ago, --coach-- said:

Fair enough. I guess i look at it as we have a first year coach who will make mistakes (time will tell if this is a mistake), but as long as he makes less mistakes that what he does great we will be just fine.

im more concerned about our fitness staff and will be very interested if we see the same traits as last year (fading at the end of the season, soft tissue injuries etc).

hopefully it’s a great year and we will all forget what we were worried about.

We can only hope we have a great season next yr. 

Fingers crossed. 

[picket fence 17,170]

1 hour ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

It's ironic that people are upset over the cost of bringing in a pick 4 equivalent player who's playign to his potential and turfing out a pick 1 that didn't.

Pick 4 equivalent ??

Just set aside your rose colored glasses and look at the deal in itself!

It ain"t Lever for Watts !! 

Too simplistic!

JW has been right royally Shafted ! Any way you cut it the scapegoat for last year!

I repeat Goodwin and his band of illusionists better get it right for next year!

I'm not sure!

Many should have gone before Jack !

Edited October 17, 2017 by picket fence

[mo64 5,874]

34 minutes ago, CHF said:

History will judge the quality of this decision.

 

Now this statement has been repeated ad nauseum, and is hard to comprehend.

If we were a premiership team, and Watts was an integral part of the success, I could understand if there was some residual backlash from his teammates. The Whale Roberts being traded from Richmond, and Bradbury and Carey from Essendon, are examples where trades had an underlying impact on the playing group. But these teams had multiple premiership success behind them.

The MFC is a team that hasn't played finals in 11 years, and is still seen as mentally fragile. If the players arc up because the FD want to weed out players who don't exhibit elite standards of professionalism, then we will go backwards. But that falls on the players, not the FD.

[Gator 17,361]

Snowflakes are alive and well.

[Goffer 256]

While not disagreeing that the club badly mismanaged his initial career Watts has never shown the drive to improve- Jones, Jetta and Pedersen are examples of less naturally gifted players who worked hard on improving their games and have cemented their places in the best 22. Watts has been kicked up the arse multiple times by different coaches (Neeld, Roos & Goodwin have all dropped or challenged him at one stage or another to improve his game) and it still hasn't clicked for him. I'm not sure moving to Port will change that as I think it's all above the shoulders for Jack.

[chookrat 4,250]

58 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

The club has made a statement .

Do not invest in players, they are just a number, loyalty doesn't exist and don't bother buying jumper numbers for your kids only to have their hearts broken down the track.

Daddy would you like some sausages

[Deemented Are Go! 3,677]

6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Pick 4 equivalent ??

Just set aside your rose colored glasses and look at the deal in itself!

It ain"t Lever for Watts !! 

Too simplistic!

JW has been right royally Shafted ! Any way you cut it the scapegoat for last year!

I repeat Goodwin and his band of illusionists better get it right for next year!

I'm not sure!

Many should have gone before Jack !

Picket, I think your exclamation mark key is stuck down with saliva again, mate.

[Demon Stalwart 255]

This is the first time I have posted this year .

Yes I am still here if anyone remembers me

If not it doesn't really Matter LOL 

All have to "Say is watch this space" . If Melbourne goes one better or more next Year everyone here will be lauding Goodwin's expertise and foresight  

If we do worse everyone will be calling for his head me included and pointing to the Jack Watts decision 

Personally i am peeved not so much that we have got rid of Jack though that rankles me,  but that our Club is still making the same mistakes !!!!

My membership and that of my Family is hanging by a thread . Lack of success or even something to pin our hopes on till now has left a bitter taste , and finally when we seem to be making real Progress and there seems to be some light at the end of the Tunnel we get this !  

After being a Melbourne Supporter for over 51 years I'm fed up with personalities and their own agendas in our Club 

We are supposed to be a club and what is best for the Club should be at the forefront of everyone' concern especially those  involved in the club 

All I have to say now is Make it so !

 Enough Said  !

Fire away folks

[Sir Why You Little 37,040]

What mobile forwards are out there, who can dob goals from 50, boundry side?

We need one. 

I heard poppies name thrown around last week

[deelete my account 1,194]

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

What mobile forwards are out there, who can dob goals from 50, boundry side?

We need one. 

I heard poppies name thrown around last week

Melksham goes alright.

[rpfc 28,433]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

I get what you're saying rpfc but I don't think any right-minded posters supportive of the Watts trade think he was 'Ground Zero' for poor commitment and preparation - rather, that his personal commitment and preparation as a senior member of our team and in a position of influence wasn't sufficient.

Further, I don't think anyone supportive of the trade is saying Watts is directly responsible for our failure, and as a footballer will be the difference between a flag or not (although plenty are arguing that we will have no chance without Watts), but that we're continuing to develop a culture that will push us towards success.

Lastly, Jack Watts was unfairly made the face of the MFC through a combination of factors - Melbourne supporter criticism was the least of these. And I'm happy to concede that this may well have played a part in his departure - Goodwin, when asked yet another question about Watts in a late-season post-match presser (when Watts had been demoted), was the testiest I have seen him. 

The powers-that-be no longer want Watts as the face of the MFC and the centre of attention as the club seeks to re-brand itself - and Watts' poster-boy status extending back into our dark past, while not the reason for our failure, is symbolic of it. 

 

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

Sad to see him go, the club won't be the same without him.

Which is the point.

 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

4 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Snowflakes are alive and well.

I am sorry to see Jack go but I can see valid reasons for his exit. So be it.

We have ousted Watts at what some may consider unders and included Lever at what some consider overs. That discussion is now irrelevant .

Goodwin has clearly set the bar.

However, the "snowflakes" will certainly turn to nastily pointy icicles if team success  does not follow.

For mine we must make the finals next year but not just fall in. We must win at least one and demonstrate we are serious improvers/contenders.

[jackaub 1,402]

Just now, rpfc said:

 

The club have made the decision so they think we will be better off with out him Right??

 

[McQueen 17,864]

1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

They had better win a flag , otherwise Goodwin is on borrowed time.

Because we traded Jack Watts.

Flawless logic.

Absolutely effing flawless.

[CBDees 3,167]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

The powers-that-be no longer want Watts as the face of the MFC and the centre of attention as the club seeks to re-brand itself - and Watts' poster-boy status extending back into our dark past, while not the reason for our failure, is symbolic of it. 

 

[picket fence 17,170]

2 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I am sorry to see Jack go but I can see valid reasons for his exit. So be it.

We have ousted Watts at what some may consider unders and included Lever at what some consider overs. That discussion is now irrelevant .

Goodwin has clearly set the bar.

However, the "snowflakes" will certainly turn to nastily pointy icicles if team success  does not follow.

For mine we must make the finals next year but not just fall in. We must win at least one and demonstrate we are serious improvers/contenders.

Would not have thought myself a snowflake Uncle, more a Glacier on the edge!

[Sir Why You Little 37,040]

3 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

Melksham goes alright.

He does. But we need more options

ready made players

it’s Top 4 next year

the statement has been made