CBA - Done deal

[Ethan Tremblay 28,419]

THE AFL will finally announce details of its collective bargaining agreement (CBA) with the players on Tuesday afternoon. 

The media conference will be streamed LIVE on AFL.com.au from 4.30pm ACST, ahead of the annual Hall of Fame ceremony that this year will be held in Adelaide. 
 

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/show-me-the-money-afl-finally-strikes-cba

Edited June 20, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay

[PaulRB 5,949]

The irony may be missed in the ivory towers of AFL land, that at the same time their announcing a "20 per cent pay increase for players and the expansion of the clubs' salary caps", the Reserve bank notes that the rest of the community is going backwards with inflation outpacing wage growth...

Maybe they could toss a bone to the supporters, and freeze increases in admission prices for the next 6 years as well?

 

Edited June 20, 2017 by PaulRB

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,155]

What excuse are departing players going to use when they don't want to sign their contract now??

[deebug 1,754]

I love the club and playing here. In other words give those media #$^ holes any thing just too get them off my back; at lease until the next day.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,155]

"I'd love to end my career a one-club player, and I anticipate that will be the case."

 

 

 

 

[FarNorthernD 5,841]

I'm just going for a look around.

[beelzebub 22,225]

49 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

"I'd love to end my career a one-club player, and I anticipate that will be the case."

 

 

 

 

Sublime

[Demon Disciple 10,966]

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

What excuse are departing players going to use when they don't want to sign their contract now??

"I meant i'd wait for the next CBA agreement"

[daisycutter 28,562]

they announce it as if each player gets an automatic 20% increase...............very misleading......as is their so called "average" player salary figure

[demoniac 1,243]

Lets hope that now the AFL has got its CBA done with the AFLPA they can lend some negotiating knowhow and common sense to Cricket Australia who seemingly find new ways every day as 1 July looms to make their players feel disrespected.

 

[demoniac 1,243]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

they announce it as if each player gets an automatic 20% increase...............very misleading......as is their so called "average" player salary figure

do we assume use in this context is median average?

[Red and Bluebeard 2,033]

1 minute ago, demoniac said:

do we assume use in this context is median average?

From the AFL? Probably couldn't even spell median ...

[daisycutter 28,562]

Just now, demoniac said:

do we assume use in this context is median average?

no. median would be less. as it is even the average is manipulated to be higher. to cross check take salary cap and do your own divisions

[In Harmes Way 7,507]

Now that's sorted we can sign Hogan up until 2035.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,415]

4 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

What excuse are departing players going to use when they don't want to sign their contract now??

We just don't want it to be a distraction, so we've told the club we're putting off talks til the end of the year 

[John Crow Batty 8,255]

McLachlan said superstar players deserve maximum rewards. So there's a chance Dustin Martin will score the lions share of that 20% for which ever clubs he signs for. I can see some bad blood in the future.

Edited June 20, 2017 by america de cali

[demoniac 1,243]

"There's so many zeros that I've put my contract talks on hold till my manager has bought a new calculator"

[Moonshadow 16,211]

5 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

What excuse are departing players going to use when they don't want to sign their contract now??

Like Sam Frost who's put his off til end of season?

Just sayin'

[ChaserJ 3,964]

Players have gotten a pretty good deal. Securing a percentage of unbudgeted revenue & club revenue is a big win for them, but very happy to see the following:

* Revamped injury payments model, guaranteed funding of $250,000 annually for concussion research;

* Past players to benefit from the establishment of a Lifetime Health Care program;

As headline grabbing as the pay and salary cap increases are, these are probably the most significant gains.

[dpositive 1,547]

As an old time labour market operative I have some concerns that wages discussions are being held in seperated environments. There was a time when our Australian  centralised system was the envy of the world but the introduction of Enterprise Bargaining Agreements and the erosion of consideration for structured value mechanisms has resulted in this current 20% outcome.

While the rest of the labour market are having minimal or even no growth this market can afford to pay huge increases. Compare the payments for other sports people who have the same requirements and the anomalies are obvious. 

The distribution of income generated from supporters ever increasing cost in this sectionalised industry is a reflection of the ever increasing economic divisions that is diminishing our egalitarian society into elite and marginalised  sectors.

Because the industry can afford to pay outrageous rates they do. The CEO will now no doubt receive a further increase as the customers are milked while the feeder and community clubs struggle with volunteer support to produce the players who will be the few winners from the total pool of participants.

While the community is having a furious debate about weekend penalties  maybe the players have identified the real answer. Higher salaries for reduced hours with every hour treated equally and achieved through the combined power of a union which has overwhelming  membership support. 

Oh well no point in dwelling on the inequities that are occurring as some struggle while others have obscene amounts. Without those excessive payments the industries associated with supporting players would not be able to continue. Let's hope the trickle down arguments apply . I guess at least the players in the industry are paying taxes and are not committing the sort of artifices of international companies

[Lucifers Hero 37,078]

13 hours ago, daisycutter said:

no. median would be less. as it is even the average is manipulated to be higher. to cross check take salary cap and do your own divisions

quite right dc.  The new average will be around $375k but the new median will be around $250k. 

Sometimes on DL it is assumed an 'average' player earns around the AFL average pay.  Not so.  Given the median they are more likely to earn $100 less than the average.

Relating this to MFC, players that have CBA escalation clauses in their contract will automatically get an increase.  For those that don't, I am confident Mahoney will ensure that the players we want on the list from 2018 will share in the windfall in some way shape or form.   They have probably been renegotiating contract terms for those players as we speak.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,436]

16 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

"I'd love to end my career a one-club player, and I anticipate that will be the case."

 

 

 

 

Worked for Xavier Richards.

[praha 10,281]

On 6/20/2017 at 5:47 PM, fndee said:

I'm just going for a look around.

You mean reach around.

[daisycutter 28,562]

12 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

quite right dc.  The new average will be around $375k but the new median will be around $250k. 

Sometimes on DL it is assumed an 'average' player earns around the AFL average pay.  Not so.  Given the median they are more likely to earn $100 less than the average.

Relating this to MFC, players that have CBA escalation clauses in their contract will automatically get an increase.  For those that don't, I am confident Mahoney will ensure that the players we want on the list from 2018 will share in the windfall in some way shape or form.   They have probably been renegotiating contract terms for those players as we speak.

the new salary cap is $12.45M. ignore rookies and divide by 40 gives an average of $311k

So I don't know where the afl get "their average" of $375k

An average of $375k would be a cap $15M

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,436]

11 hours ago, daisycutter said:

the new salary cap is $12.45M. ignore rookies and divide by 40 gives an average of $311k

So I don't know where the afl get "their average" of $375k

An average of $375k would be a cap $15M

Is it possible the missing $64k is accounted for by payments outside the salary cap? I don't even know if such payments exist, but things like community, marketing and media work (although not necessarily these examples) might earn players on average $64k per annum and could be included in the average salary but not the salary cap.