Saints v Dees Rd 1

[BrisbaneDemon 1,572]

47 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Hibberd.  Frost and AVB are best 25 IMO.  unless they improve theyll play a handful of games

Hibberd is best 22, everyday of the week, you cannot compare a seasoned footballer with 84 games to two guys who have barely played.

[steve_f 40]

On 3/22/2017 at 0:58 PM, ArtificialWisdom said:

I cant agree with that. Gawn's marks in the forwardline almost always come from him floating forward either alone or with a ruckman (or sometimes an unlucky midfielder) following him. If you play him as a forward he will be up against real key defenders who while maybe giving up some size will be much better at nullifying him and kill him on the rebound. 

Maybe.  I seem to recall him also marking in a pack of various defenders and shall watch him with interest in the square under the roof.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

7 hours ago, DubDee said:

that doesn't surprise me

In the end, somewhat surprised, somewhat disappointed.

Looking forward to seeing Hannan play but not sure that he should be coming in ahead of Kent given he has also had a limited pre-season.

Weideman very lucky to get a gig.

Happy that Spencer is not playing.

Not sure that ANB should be playing but I guess this shows that for all the pre-season talk about our depth (which happens every season), we still have a long way to go.

 

[brendan 3,437]

I like the team the ANB Decision I'm a bit miffed about I guess he was fighting for the last spot in the side, just not sure why he gets the spot above bugg and harmes is he quicker than them, better tank I personally would have had bugg in the side 

[bandicoot 1,395]

8 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

In the end, somewhat surprised, somewhat disappointed.

Looking forward to seeing Hannan play but not sure that he should be coming in ahead of Kent given he has also had a limited pre-season.

Weideman very lucky to get a gig.

Happy that Spencer is not playing.

Not sure that ANB should be playing but I guess this shows that for all the pre-season talk about our depth (which happens every season), we still have a long way to go.

 

Not every player has to be elite. GWS have buntine listed as playing this weekend. Not sure how much better bunting is than ANB

[Gator 17,361]

9 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

In the end, somewhat surprised, somewhat disappointed.

Looking forward to seeing Hannan play but not sure that he should be coming in ahead of Kent given he has also had a limited pre-season. 

 

True, but how do you know they're at exactly the same levels of development heading into 2017 ?

Misson may consider Hannan ready due to his training, match simulations and workload, but Kent not ready. 

How do you know this isn't the case ?

To me it seems logical that it would be. 

[DeeMfc 621]

Dees to win by 27points.

Petracca to be best on ground and prove why the saints made a big mistake not taking him at pick 1.

ANB to kick 3 plus 2 assists if played as a crumbing forward. When played as a forward he is an opportunist and rarely doesn't score. I think it's his best position providing he gets the defensive aspects of his game right.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

3 hours ago, ProDee said:

True, but how do you know they're at exactly the same levels of development heading into 2017 ?

Misson may consider Hannan ready due to his training, match simulations and workload, but Kent not ready. 

How do you know this isn't the case ?

To me it seems logical that it would be. 

All true, but from what I saw at training last Friday, Kent appeared to be ready to go.

Kent from memory had a good period pre-christmas while Hannan was in rehab so in that regard I find it surprising. Can't say I noticed Hannan at all in the match simulation on that particular day.

I do like the attributes Hannan brings to team, so hopefully logic prevails.

 

[Gator 17,361]

1 hour ago, Watts the matter said:

All true, but from what I saw at training last Friday, Kent appeared to be ready to go.

Kent from memory had a good period pre-christmas while Hannan was in rehab so in that regard I find it surprising. Can't say I noticed Hannan at all in the match simulation on that particular day.

I do like the attributes Hannan brings to team, so hopefully logic prevails.

 

Did you see Cripps last night ?  He was a shadow of his 2016 and that's because he's underdone.

This is where I place faith in the sports science guys and match committee to know who's right to go.  Sometimes a player is only a week away, but that week can make a difference.

Round 1 gets a lot of attention, but the season is long and every player we like doesn't have to be played in round 1 if it's deemed they're not ready.

Edited March 24, 2017 by ProDee

[In Harmes Way 7,783]

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

Did you see Cripps last night ?  He was a shadow of his 2016 and that's because he's underdone.

This is where I place faith in the sports science guys and match committee to know who's right to go.  Sometimes a player is only a week away, but that week can make a difference.

Round 1 gets a lot of attention, but the season is long and every player we like doesn't have to be played in round 1 if it's deemed they're not ready.

Hopefully Cripps is more than a week away. I'd be happy enough with 2 weeks away at this stage.

[In Harmes Way 7,783]

The other factor I haven't seen discussed is that it's an away game for us and as such I suspect we'll be wearing that awful white away strip. NBG.

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1 minute ago, small but forward said:

The other factor I haven't seen discussed is that it's an away game for us and as such I suspect we'll be wearing that awful white away strip. NBG.

Club confirmed a few weeks ago that we'll be wearing the "alternate" clash strip (the one we wore against the Dogs in JLT 1).

[martin 727]

What chance the roof not being closed? Huge help to us if it isn't.

[brendan 3,437]

Will be closed 100% being a late game 

[dino rover 714]

A lot of focus here on hannan and smith and less on the other differences between last year vs saints and now 

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,736]

2 minutes ago, dino rover said:

A lot of focus here on hannan and smith and less on the other differences between last year vs saints and now 

I think both sides have gotten stronger in regards to personnel and games into youngsters.

No Montagna helps us. But no Tyson doesn't help as he is a gun at his best.

Hopefully Riewoldt is starting to drop off......

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

23 minutes ago, dino rover said:

A lot of focus here on hannan and smith and less on the other differences between last year vs saints and now 

2016 @ Etihad compared to 2017 @ Etihad

[dino rover 714]

Thanks for that effort

 

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

2 minutes ago, dino rover said:

Thanks for that effort

 

After comparing our two sides - We are a hell of a lot stronger on paper than our last meeting!

This has actually swung me from the thoughts of dealing with a loss to the thoughts of celebrating a win!

 

[DemonLad5 1,642]

14 minutes ago, Krazy Jaeger O'Smeara said:

2016 @ Etihad compared to 2017 @ Etihad

Saints have beaten us in recent times by running us off our legs 

They have gone with a much taller team as apposed to last time and we have gone with a much smaller team

Interesting.

[Beetle 4,660]

3AW just reported that jungle drums are beating that there may be a late change and Paddy McCartin may not play tomorrow.

[Biffen 12,943]

Nearly 50% of the players on Saturday have a first name beginning with J.

Quite Astonishing.

Lots of Jacks and Jakes.

 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,177]

5 hours ago, ProDee said:

Did you see Cripps last night ?  He was a shadow of his 2016 and that's because he's underdone.

This is where I place faith in the sports science guys and match committee to know who's right to go.  Sometimes a player is only a week away, but that week can make a difference.

Round 1 gets a lot of attention, but the season is long and every player we like doesn't have to be played in round 1 if it's deemed they're not ready.

Whilst Tyson and Kent are clearly best 22 when on their A game I reckon they are the most sensitive to being useless when not at their best. Tyson's JLT appearance was a good case in point. Go with those with the best conditioning and touch I say. 

[beelzebub 23,377]

1 hour ago, DemonLad5 said:

Saints have beaten us in recent times by running us off our legs 

They have gone with a much taller team as apposed to last time and we have gone with a much smaller team

Interesting.

We win

[Redleg 40,926]

Here is my tip for surprise matchup. Smith on Riewoldt.

If Nick plays on the wing you need a tall player with pace, who can stay with him.

Smith is quick, has some height and could be given the huge job to negate the champ.