JLT Round 4, Thursday 9th March - West Coast at Subiaco

[bandicoot 1,395]

7 hours ago, fr_ap said:

100% agree.

This squad, or anything close to it, is in for a 40-50 point loss in round 1 at Etihad. Bookmark it.

Look at you.... Mr bundle of positivity 

[leucopogon 1,468]

On 06/03/2017 at 9:21 AM, McQueen said:

Goodwin in his own words said that this will be much closer to a full dress rehearsal for the first game and the opposistion should be a good one in the Eagles.

Tyson and Kent should return with the (remote) possibility of Watts and Jetta also suiting up.

JKH is out with injury which frees up a spot for Kent and Tyson should replace ANB for this game. There is also 2 less on the bench so young Johnstone and someone else will miss out you would think..

It's a bonus for us WA based members to see the team over here in the pre season comp given they only get over here once more this year so I'll definitely be getting along to the game.

Any other WA supporters planning on attending Thursday?

Hey McQueen, will be there with the little fella and my Eagle supporting old man. We should catch up for a beer at half time, pm me if you're interested.

[ArtificialWisdom 3,852]

10 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Someone also mentioned Joel Smith playing ahead of Garland.  Whilst I loved Smith's tackling and defensive pressure, he was shown up big time most times when he had the ball and couldn't dispose of it in good fashion or to the right option.  Was great to give him two games exposure at the top level in preseason, but it's either Garland, Jetta, Frost, Hibbard or Harmes come round one for me

I like Smith and think he should play this year. But if he isnt ready Garland seems the logical one to play, he is there to be a backup so if Hibbard is out why not use him? I dont like Harmes in the backline though, I think he is much more dangerous as a forward. And his occasional shank isn't such a problem

10 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

ANB is actually a bit of a wildcard with so many small forwards injured

Am I the only person that hates this? He has little to no influence when he plays forward. I understand that he plays well at VFL level in the midfield!! but its frustrating to see him come in and play forward where he stuggles then take him back to the VFL and he goes into the middle again. They need to play him as an inside midfielder or not at all. This is the whole "frost is a forward" thing all over again

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

1 hour ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Am I the only person that hates this? He has little to no influence when he plays forward. I understand that he plays well at VFL level in the midfield!! but its frustrating to see him come in and play forward where he stuggles then take him back to the VFL and he goes into the middle again. They need to play him as an inside midfielder or not at all. This is the whole "frost is a forward" thing all over again

Agree.

One game against Geelong where he happened to get on the end of a few seems to convince many that he's a great small forward.

And I'm sure it'll be referenced for the next five years.

Just like Gysberts.

And Jamar's 2010 AA year.

And Frawley's.

Etc...

Etc Etc...

zzzzz.....

 

[DeeSpencer 23,129]

2 hours ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

I like Smith and think he should play this year. But if he isnt ready Garland seems the logical one to play, he is there to be a backup so if Hibbard is out why not use him? I dont like Harmes in the backline though, I think he is much more dangerous as a forward. And his occasional shank isn't such a problem

Am I the only person that hates this? He has little to no influence when he plays forward. I understand that he plays well at VFL level in the midfield!! but its frustrating to see him come in and play forward where he stuggles then take him back to the VFL and he goes into the middle again. They need to play him as an inside midfielder or not at all. This is the whole "frost is a forward" thing all over again

Goodwin will probably go with more rotations than Roos but the reality is Jones, Viney, Tyson, Oliver, Brayshaw, Salem are all probably going to get picked to play on ball before ANB. He isn't a natural forward but if he's picked he's not expected to kick a bunch of goals from strong marks or crumbing, he's expected to run hard both ways, tackle and make decent decisions with the ball. That spot is a midfielders position these days - Mav Weller, Josh Dunkley/Clay Smith, Toby Greene, Kieren Jack etc. The other players who we play there - Kent, Vanders, JKH are much more like traditional midfielders than they are forwards. 

The spots have opened up and we might not have any better options so I want to see him take the opportunity. If he can't play as a defensive half forward then he's not going to be much of a midfielder even if he's better suited to that role. If he can't run, tackle and do ok with 10-15 touches then I don't want him getting 25 in the guts.

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Agree.

One game against Geelong where he happened to get on the end of a few seems to convince many that he's a great small forward.

And I'm sure it'll be referenced for the next five years.

Just like Gysberts.

And Jamar's 2010 AA year.

And Frawley's.

Etc...

Etc Etc...

zzzzz.....

 

Plonk Frawley in our defence and we are a significantly better team.  I fail to understand how anyone disagrees.

[fr_ap 2,144]

7 hours ago, bandicoot said:

Look at you.... Mr bundle of positivity 

Oh I forgot, ANBs elite endurance and trengove's decision making are going to overrun the zippy saints midfield on the fastest, smallest deck in footy. A brigade of mids who are forced to play half forward are going to contribute 10 goals plus between them, with brayshaw to kick 4, harmes 3 and salem 3. And watts will fire, despite having no match practise and being under intense scrutiny. And hogan won't get monstered by carlisle and double teamed at every opportunity. And oscar will fly high to deny bruce goalscoring opps. And garland will be incredibly alert and diligent to deny membrey time and space. And Tom Mac won't run off riewoldt and let him get off the chain. And Melksham won't turn it over through the corridor, and the saints wont overrun us with speed and spread on the counter.

Honestly I pity you if you think this week's squad would win rd1. To stand any chance watts and petracca would need to kick 8 between them without kent and garlett around.  The midfield would need to win the i50 battle by a big margin, because if it gets down there, the saints are going to score. Without hib/wag as third defender, we simply can't cover them.

How's that for a bundle of reality?

 

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

2 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Oh I forgot, ANBs elite endurance and trengove's decision making are going to overrun the zippy saints midfield on the fastest, smallest deck in footy. A brigade of mids who are forced to play half forward are going to contribute 10 goals plus between them, with brayshaw to kick 4, harmes 3 and salem 3. And watts will fire, despite having no match practise and being under intense scrutiny. And hogan won't get monstered by carlisle and double teamed at every opportunity. And oscar will fly high to deny bruce goalscoring opps. And garland will be incredibly alert and diligent to deny membrey time and space. And Tom Mac won't run off riewoldt and let him get off the chain. And Melksham won't turn it over through the corridor, and the saints wont overrun us with speed and spread on the counter.

Honestly I pity you if you think this week's squad would win rd1. To stand any chance watts and petracca would need to kick 8 between them without kent and garlett around.  The midfield would need to win the i50 battle by a big margin, because if it gets down there, the saints are going to score. Without hib/wag as third defender, we simply can't cover them.

How's that for a bundle of reality?

 

Having a bad day are we?

[fr_ap 2,144]

3 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Having a bad day are we?

Not nearly as bad as the 25th of March will be if this is the squad we take in

[old dee 22,852]

4 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Having a bad day are we?

I doubt the need for the question mark iv'a

[Bossdog 2,002]

HA.......he he he

I find it amusing that you blokes are argueing over a practice match squad in march

Sorry    Carry on..... 

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

13 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Not nearly as bad as the 25th of March will be if this is the squad we take in

Will you being going to the game.  If so, let me know where you will be and I'll make sure I am on the opposite end/side of the ground

[old dee 22,852]

8 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Will you being going to the game.  If so, let me know where you will be and I'll make sure I am on the opposite end/side of the ground

As long as you don't sit the Saints area you are safe iv'a

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

As long as you don't sit the Saints area you are safe iv'a

I survived the animal enclosure at Moorabbin OD and lived to tell the tale.

[bandicoot 1,395]

47 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Oh I forgot, ANBs elite endurance and trengove's decision making are going to overrun the zippy saints midfield on the fastest, smallest deck in footy. A brigade of mids who are forced to play half forward are going to contribute 10 goals plus between them, with brayshaw to kick 4, harmes 3 and salem 3. And watts will fire, despite having no match practise and being under intense scrutiny. And hogan won't get monstered by carlisle and double teamed at every opportunity. And oscar will fly high to deny bruce goalscoring opps. And garland will be incredibly alert and diligent to deny membrey time and space. And Tom Mac won't run off riewoldt and let him get off the chain. And Melksham won't turn it over through the corridor, and the saints wont overrun us with speed and spread on the counter.

Honestly I pity you if you think this week's squad would win rd1. To stand any chance watts and petracca would need to kick 8 between them without kent and garlett around.  The midfield would need to win the i50 battle by a big margin, because if it gets down there, the saints are going to score. Without hib/wag as third defender, we simply can't cover them.

How's that for a bundle of reality?

 

This weeks squad is at least 80% the same players that will play in round 1. 

If you think the saints are raging favorites maybe you should put your money where your mouth is. 

At $1.70 Melbourne are strong favorites 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,852]

1 minute ago, bandicoot said:

This weeks squad is at least 80% the same players that will play in round 1. 

If you think the saints are raging favorites maybe you should put your money where your mouth is. 

At $1.70 Melbourne are strong favorites 

 

I would say that at $1.24 the Swans are strong favourites. at $1.70 i think we are just favourites, but sure hyperbole thats what this thread needs more of  

[sisso 2,388]

How are we favourites!? The bookies are having a laugh aren't they, we never beat St Kilda and we play like pus at etihad

[Cheap Seats 3,300]

8 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

This weeks squad is at least 80% the same players that will play in round 1. 

If you think the saints are raging favorites maybe you should put your money where your mouth is. 

At $1.70 Melbourne are strong favorites 

I know there is some.long overdue hype around us at the moment but those are some surprising odds.

Is put my hard earned every day on the saints over the dees at etihad until the dees can prove otherwise.

 

[old dee 22,852]

28 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

I survived the animal enclosure at Moorabbin OD and lived to tell the tale.

I meant you would be not near fr_ap

[Die Hard Demon 1,152]

The odds will be even come match day.. The Saints at $2.15 are a steal while it lasts !

[DeeZone 7,711]

If we can beat tha Aints at Etihad, it will be doubly sweet. Also need to do well against WCE tomorrow night to keep building momentum. Go Dee's!!!!!

[Sir Why You Little 34,444]

10 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

The odds will be even come match day.. The Saints at $2.15 are a steal while it lasts !

Bloody oath. What a joke!!

11 years since...

[hardtack 10,126]

1 hour ago, fr_ap said:

Oh I forgot, ANBs elite endurance and trengove's decision making are going to overrun the zippy saints midfield on the fastest, smallest deck in footy. A brigade of mids who are forced to play half forward are going to contribute 10 goals plus between them, with brayshaw to kick 4, harmes 3 and salem 3. And watts will fire, despite having no match practise and being under intense scrutiny. And hogan won't get monstered by carlisle and double teamed at every opportunity. And oscar will fly high to deny bruce goalscoring opps. And garland will be incredibly alert and diligent to deny membrey time and space. And Tom Mac won't run off riewoldt and let him get off the chain. And Melksham won't turn it over through the corridor, and the saints wont overrun us with speed and spread on the counter.

Honestly I pity you if you think this week's squad would win rd1. To stand any chance watts and petracca would need to kick 8 between them without kent and garlett around.  The midfield would need to win the i50 battle by a big margin, because if it gets down there, the saints are going to score. Without hib/wag as third defender, we simply can't cover them.

How's that for a bundle of reality?

 

Not very realistic at all... if you seriously think that is the squad that will be presenting on March 25th, then you may have lost your grip on reality.  There are Kent, Garlett, Jetta, Frost and Hibberd, most of whom are likely to be ready to take the field against the 'Aints and will probably get a run at Casey the week before as a warm up.

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19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pedo has always been hard done by the footy club. I use to shake my head when old mate 'buckets' Dawes would continue to spud it up every week while Pedo would come in every 3rd week and make a solid contribution while in the side.

Totally agree, used to frustrate me too

[hells bells 2,022]

2 hours ago, fr_ap said:

 

How's that for a bundle of reality?

 

You should take the $26 on offer for the Saints to win the flag.  You make them sound unbeatable.