Demon Injuries 2017 season

[RedLegs23 855]

Gawn in an instant, back by round 12?

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-17/gawn-in-an-instant-back-in-round-12

 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,010]

Could someone please tell the medical staff down at the club to whack a helmet on young Angus for f sakes how many times does this have to happen to him. If he declines to wear it he doesn't play simple as that ,every time I've seen him concussed not 1 time has he worn a helmet. GET A HELMET ON HIS NOGGEN.

[Skuit 9,381]

Could someone please tell the admin to pin the 'helmets don't help' response?

[spirit of norm smith 13,420]

Jesse, Max and Gus would make us a better team.

Fingers crossed all are back by round 13.

[daisycutter 28,687]

On 2017-5-17 at 9:28 PM, Skuit said:

Could someone please tell the admin to pin the 'helmets don't help' response?

well there was a new anti-concussion head band discussed (forgot name but in brayshaw thread) which at least deserved a look at

[Skuit 9,381]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

well there was a new anti-concussion head band discussed (forgot name but in brayshaw thread) which at least deserved a look at

I have no expertise whatsoever on the particular matter, but it's more that there are some comments that should generate an automated response to save everyone the hassle of repeating themselves.

He should wear a helmet: Helmets don't help with concussion.

We need to plan for the slippery NT conditions: Alice Springs is in the middle of an arid desert.

Trengove is too slow: Greg Williams and Sam Mitchell are slow.

 

 

[olisik 4,060]

Get Gus a helmet and he will be as good as New

[Skuit 9,381]

4 minutes ago, olisik said:

Get Gus a helmet and he will be as good as New

Helmets don't help with concussion.

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[old55 21,638]

Max on par with Jake for return now in 3-4 weeks

Weeks: 1. GC, 2. Bye, 3. Collingwood, 4. Dogs, 5. West Coast, 6. Sydney

Angus Brayshaw	Concussion	Indefinite
Colin Garland*	Knee	Season
Max Gawn	Hamstring	3-4 weeks
Jesse Hogan	Cancer	Indefinite
Corey Maynard	Concussion	Test
Pat McKenna	Hamstring	TBC
Christian Salem	Suspension	Round 11
Joel Smith	Shoulder	5 weeks
Tim Smith	Rib/punctured lung	Test
Jake Spencer	Shoulder	3-4 weeks
Aaron vandenBerg*	Heel	6-8 weeks

Edited May 24, 2017 by Fifty-5

[Demonland 66,474]

10 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Max on par with Jake for return now in 3-4 weeks

Weeks: 1. GC, 2. Bye, 3. Collingwood, 4. Dogs, 5. West Coast, 6. Sydney

Angus Brayshaw	Concussion	Indefinite
Colin Garland*	Knee	Season
Max Gawn	Hamstring	3-4 weeks
Jesse Hogan	Cancer	Indefinite
Corey Maynard	Concussion	Test
Pat McKenna	Hamstring	TBC
Christian Salem	Suspension	Round 11
Joel Smith	Shoulder	5 weeks
Tim Smith	Rib/punctured lung	Test
Jake Spencer	Shoulder	3-4 weeks
Aaron vandenBerg*	Heel	6-8 weeks

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-24/vandenberg-mckenna-suffer-setbacks

MFC article talks about vandenBerg having another setback and being at least 8 weeks away.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

^ I'm pretty sure I just read on the website that Max is 4-6 weeks away and that was directly from Misson.

Sometimes I wonder if there is any point in having these injury reports.

Maybe they should just call them short, medium and long term injuries like other clubs do.

 

[jumbo returns 6,546]

Will AVB ever get on the park? 

Shocking bad luck....MFCSS

 

[Demonland 66,474]

7 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

^ I'm pretty sure I just read on the website that Max is 4-6 weeks away and that was directly from Misson.

Sometimes I wonder if there is any point in having these injury reports.

Maybe they should just call them short, medium and long term injuries like other clubs do.

 

The article I linked to has Max 426.

Having said that 628 is the new MFCSS 426. Try explaining that sentence to a non-Demonlander.

 

[old55 21,638]

7 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

^ I'm pretty sure I just read on the website that Max is 4-6 weeks away and that was directly from Misson.

Sometimes I wonder if there is any point in having these injury reports.

Maybe they should just call them short, medium and long term injuries like other clubs do.

 

Yep sounds like Jake is ahead of Max from this ...

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-24/vandenberg-mckenna-suffer-setbacks

Ruckmen Max Gawn (hamstring) is another four to six matches away and Jake Spencer (shoulder) is two to three weeks from resuming.

“Maxy, like Jake Spencer, is doing some really good work in rehab. Both of them are pretty close. Jake is probably a little bit ahead of Max. But again, they’re doing a lot of running and racking up a lot of kilometres,” Misson said.

“They’ve started doing some ruck work in their rehab, so they’re tracking really well.”

[Clintosaurus 6,673]

Are we the most cautious club in terms of players returning from injury? Sometimes I'm sure a fingernail chip  would result in 2 weeks with the rehab group.

[What 18,810]

God I hate seeing that awful word next to Jesse's name, cant they just list him as illness?

[qwerty7 315]

Gawn I think is estimated to be back for the Bulldogs game and so I'm assuming with Spencer ahead of Gawn, Spencer will play for the Pies game. 

https://www.facebook.com/7AFL/videos/vb.510082722500876/815202831988862/?type=2&theater

 

Edited May 24, 2017 by qwerty7

[jumbo returns 6,546]

15 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Are we the most cautious club in terms of players returning from injury? Sometimes I'm sure a fingernail chip  would result in 2 weeks with the rehab group.

426

[deebug 1,754]

On 2017-5-16 at 9:00 PM, Wiseblood said:

I feel like VandenBerg has been 6-8 weeks for 6-8 weeks.  Let's hope he's back sometime during this decade.

Same, does any one know why Van's is still yet to play? I hope it's not going to be another foot problem like Trenner's foot.

[Demonland 66,474]

7 minutes ago, deebug said:

Same, does any one know why Van's is still yet to play? I hope it's not going to be another foot problem like Trenner's foot.

from the article: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-24/vandenberg-mckenna-suffer-setbacks

Quote

HARD-nut Aaron vandenBerg has had a setback with his heel injury and will miss at least another eight weeks.

Elite performance manager Dave Misson confirmed the utility would now consider several options regarding his injury.

“That heel just isn’t settling the way we’d like, unfortunately for Aaron,” he told Melbourne TV.

“We’re just going to get a couple more opinions and just make a decision on where we’ll go from there.

“It’s an unusual injury and very difficult for him. It’s another disrupted season, but we’re hoping to get some good information in the next week or so and organise a plan of attack from there.”

 

[ManDee 7,093]

16 hours ago, Skuit said:

Helmets don't help with concussion.

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Skuit, this is wrong.

Helmets do not prevent concussion but they can reduce the severity.

A flexible helmet slows the the impact reducing the severity, as cars have crush zones to reduce the impact the helmet allows the head to reduce speed before changing direction. It is unlikely that a helmet could prevent concussion completely but any reduction is a benefit.

 

see:- https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-zero1-flexible-football-helmet-may-save-players-brains/

[Chris 2,892]

41 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Skuit, this is wrong.

Helmets do not prevent concussion but they can reduce the severity.

A flexible helmet slows the the impact reducing the severity, as cars have crush zones to reduce the impact the helmet allows the head to reduce speed before changing direction. It is unlikely that a helmet could prevent concussion completely but any reduction is a benefit.

 

see:- https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-zero1-flexible-football-helmet-may-save-players-brains/

That's a gridion helmet! The theory you suggest is right but the AFL helmets do squat, and may actually make things worse as the player takes more risks as they think they are protected. There is heaps of research to suggest that the more safety things you put in place the more risks get taken.

[Lord Travis 10,274]

Vandenberg at least another 8 weeks away and they're going to seek further opinions as his foot just isn't healing. He's gonna be gone a while, not sure if we'll see him in red and blue again as others pass him. Shame as we could use him as a marking option and for defensive pressure up forward at the moment. Poor guy. 

Great to hear Max is not too far off. He'll make us a better team instantly!

[Bang Bang Bang 5,560]

Vandenberg's lower body must be made of glass. Had serious injuries every year since joining us. He looked pretty good at stages in 2015 and is clearly a coach favourite but his days are numbered IMO.

[ManDee 7,093]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

That's a gridion helmet! The theory you suggest is right but the AFL helmets do squat, and may actually make things worse as the player takes more risks as they think they are protected. There is heaps of research to suggest that the more safety things you put in place the more risks get taken.

Skuit said helmets don't help with concussion. That is wrong. Why would you use a helmet that does not help when there is one available that does help? I don't care if it is a boxing, snowboard, gridiron helmet or otherwise, if it could help a player susceptible to concussion why not try it?

 

Remove the mesh and put on a new sponsor.

I would suggest only available to players that have had concussion. 

Edited May 24, 2017 by ManDee