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Another impressive performance by Clarry. A big thing i have noticed is a change of style in his game. His outside work has improved vastly and noticed him running and receiving alot yesterday which was good to see.

Also i notice he didn't have a stat in the last qtr? I watched the game game but i don't remember seeing him? Was he rested?

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not sure if he was rested in the last, but suspect he was as when he's on the field he's where the ball is at.

Goes alright does Clarrie - Essendon can keep Parish, I like this guy.

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3 minutes ago, grazman said:

not sure if he was rested in the last, but suspect he was as when he's on the field he's where the ball is at.

Goes alright does Clarrie - Essendon can keep Parish, I like this guy.

Ditto the Saints and McCartin.

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He's just a very clever footballer.  A case in point was his little knock on in the first term that allowed Salem to kick a goal - it was only a small thing, but purely instinctive and showed that his footy IQ is very high.  Alongside Petracca he has the biggest ceiling of the youngsters on the list, and if he keeps working hard to improve then the sky is the limit.

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100% Agree

Not a flashy player but so clean and hard at the ball. If he can add some breakaway flare to his game he will become top 5 AFL material

I just love watching him, he is so strong and clean in the contest, I haven't seen a Dees player like that in a long long time. I know Viney is hard but he's not as clean and as good with the ball as Clarry.

Looking forward to watching him develop more again this year.... its going to be Huge

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Looks really trimmed up too. Could see him ending up like Josh Kennedy from Sydney after a couple of Pre Seasons.

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4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Looks really trimmed up too. Could see him ending up like Josh Kennedy from Sydney after a couple of Pre Seasons.

I see Tyson as more in the Kennedy mould, a real bullocking mid who can get the ball out or lock it down when need be and also get on the end of a goal from time to time.

Oliver to me finds the cracks that Kennedy doesn't or can't, he has that so called 'x' factor. Where Kennedy would lock it down Oliver finds a way to get it moving to our advantage. If he keeps up the hard work he will be something very special.

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23 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

He's just a very clever footballer.  A case in point was his little knock on in the first term that allowed Salem to kick a goal - it was only a small thing, but purely instinctive and showed that his footy IQ is very high.  Alongside Petracca he has the biggest ceiling of the youngsters on the list, and if he keeps working hard to improve then the sky is the limit.

Very clever is an understatement, WB.  The kid is a maestro, he is like Greg Williams in traffic, the vision, the poise and the hands,  Time slows down for him even in the tightest of situations.  The only thing that will stop him from becoming a top 5 player in the comp is himself, but even after a poor start to preseason where he supposedly came back out of shape after his breath test controversy, he looks a class above out there.

And to think he doesnt even turn 20 until July.

 

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Always gets his arms up high over the tackle so he can get the handball away. I love the way he does that. It draws a player in and he still gets the ball away.  I don't think it is taught - it is instinctive. Jones ( who I love ) doesn't get his arms up so when he is tackled in traffic  more often than not it ends up in a ball up.

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On ‎26‎/‎02‎/‎2017 at 11:05 AM, rjay said:

I see Tyson as more in the Kennedy mould, a real bullocking mid who can get the ball out or lock it down when need be and also get on the end of a goal from time to time.

Oliver to me finds the cracks that Kennedy doesn't or can't, he has that so called 'x' factor. Where Kennedy would lock it down Oliver finds a way to get it moving to our advantage. If he keeps up the hard work he will be something very special.

you obviously don't watch Kennedy closely who is the master of keeping the ball alive in tights positions and releasing it to his teams advantage. His first hal in the grand final was as good as you will ever see. Clarry will be doing well to reach that level.

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Clarry doesn't remind me of anyone, which is a good thing, as he will create his own legacy.

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24 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

you obviously don't watch Kennedy closely who is the master of keeping the ball alive in tights positions and releasing it to his teams advantage. His first hal in the grand final was as good as you will ever see. Clarry will be doing well to reach that level.

I think he will reach that level. But I see the similarities also. I see similarities in their ability to hold their feet, and to get the ball out of congestion effectively. I agree with you. But also, I think Oliver has more athleticism than Kennedy. Oliver is more explosive, and he is cleaner inside of the contest - which is quite a feat because Kennedy is one of the best contested players in the league. Oliver is that clean. Hopefully he keeps trending upwards, and one day reaches the heights of Kennedy. Because as you know, there is more to just being a great contested player. There also has to be an outside game. Oliver appears to be developing an outside game now. He is ahead of Kennedy - and many others - at the same point (early) in their careers.

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One thing I have noticed is that he seems to handball the ball from anywhere, as in it isn't always from his hand. If you watch in teh clearances he will sort of gather but int he same motion hit the ball forward. There was one I watched the other day (can't remember which game, may have been a replay of the Hawks game last year) where he tucked the ball under his arm to run, was about to be tackled so handballed the ball from tucked under his arm. Of course it went straight to the player intended and off we went. This isn't a skill I have noticed before. His usually has a pretty soft touch on the ball to and just puts it to clear advantage of a team mate. Must be nice being on the end of them. 

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His body and fitness looks vastly improved from the start of preseason. Although I did see him on field in the last and he didn't get a stat, so we might have to temper expectations a little on consistency because the fitness base just isn't there. 

I also still think he needs to work on a left hand handball because his vision and movement is so good it's a shame to see him give inside out handballs. If he can use both sides of his body like Sam Mitchell then watch out.

 

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Hi game has definitely changed from what we have seen so far this year.  Last season he would try to immediately move the ball on with a handball when in traffic.  The last two weeks he's made space for himself more often and looked to kick with precision, when the option is on.  This variation will make him even more dangerous in the clinches. 

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6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

His body and fitness looks vastly improved from the start of preseason. Although I did see him on field in the last and he didn't get a stat, so we might have to temper expectations a little on consistency because the fitness base just isn't there. 

I also still think he needs to work on a left hand handball because his vision and movement is so good it's a shame to see him give inside out handballs. If he can use both sides of his body like Sam Mitchell then watch out.

 

I'm not sure how a young man that gets done drink driving and has fitness base issues gets two JLT games ahead of Jack Watts. [censored] me, Jack must be off the pace significantly.

this said, I'm a huge fan of Clearance. Apologies for the derail.

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1 hour ago, small but forward said:

I'm not sure how a young man that gets done drink driving and has fitness base issues gets two JLT games ahead of Jack Watts. [censored] me, Jack must be off the pace significantly.

this said, I'm a huge fan of Clearance. Apologies for the derail.

Improvement and intensity. Oliver has shown both this preseason even if he didn't start in prefect condition.

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My favourite player already, alongside Tyson. But there a few guys that could join that list. Brayshaw, Hogan, Petracca. Clarry has the highest ceiling out of our mids though and I'd argue out of our players.

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9 hours ago, bingers said:

He reminds me of Michael Voss

Unfortunate placement, Bingers! Placed straight after a comment about Simon Goodwin could lead someone to believe that you see Michael Voss (as coach) in Simon Goodwin rather than Michael Voss (as player) in Oliver. At least, I hope you were talking about Michael Voss the player...

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