MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 15

[P-man 13,239]

Unbelievable.

[JV7 2,339]

No Grimes... Get stuffed. Maybe if Viney doesn't come up he or Trengove will replace him. But you gotta feel for Grimes, Gartlett does sweet [censored] all and gets back in, different players yes but still. Harmes goes back for one game and performs but comes straight back in. If I was grimes I'd tell Roos to stick it, I'll play the year out at casey 

Edited July 1, 2016 by JV7

[Lucifers Hero 37,207]

Coaches talking with Jack after training today.

Picture says it all - no one looks happy.  Jack looks shattered. Feel for him.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

Coaches talking with Jack after training today.

Picture says it all - no one looks happy.  Jack looks shattered. Feel for him.

Says it all, really.

At least Roos and the coaching team are man enough to take him aside and tell him their decision and not just select the side and allow him to find out that way.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Official Outs

Trenners Wagner Oliver 

Ins

Harmes Garlett M Jones..

Grimes emergency.....

Unbelievable once again... Garlett brought in based on poor form yet Grimes yet again named Emergency... Starting to get sick of this coaching staff and their selection panel. 

Trengove given 3 games and dropped..

Roos is starting to lose me.

I think the selections would be much easier to understand and accept if they matched Roos' rhetoric.  He preaches reward for good form and yet there are some very protected species in this team.  I like Vanders, Harmes and Garlett but two have been ordinary for a while and one is rewarded for a good game at Casey.  In the mean time Newton, ANB and Grimes play well week in week out for no reward.

It's clear these three are not in our forward thinking.  If that's the case I hope there is more honesty shown to the player in private than is being shared with the supporters because at the moment Roos is treating us with little respect.

[What 18,810]

Garlett is very, very lucky.

I like the Matt Jones inclusion, he was very good earlier in the year before injury and will give us more than Trenners currently is.

[praha 10,308]

2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Coaches talking with Jack after training today.

Picture says it all - no one looks happy.  Jack looks shattered. Feel for him.

Tough viewing, but compare to the Daniher years. He'd have gotten a game simply because he's a stalwart, not because it's best for the team (think Yze in his last few years). Maybe it's for the best. Gotta back in the coaches.

[Demons11 6,404]

7 minutes ago, JV7 said:

No Grimes... Get stuffed. Maybe if Viney doesn't come up he or Trengove will replace him. But you gotta feel for Grimes, Gartlett does sweet [censored] all and gets back in, different players yes but still. Harmes goes back for one game and performs but comes straight back in. If I was grimes I'd tell Roos to stick it, I'll play the year out at casey 

Harmes had 30 plus p's and get 3 goals 

[praha 10,308]

2 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I think the selections would be much easier to understand and accept if they matched Roos' rhetoric.  He preaches reward for good form and yet there are some very protected species in this team.  I like Vanders, Harmes and Garlett but two have been ordinary for a while and one is rewarded for a good game at Casey.  In the mean time Newton, ANB and Grimes play well week in week out for no reward.

It's clear these three are not in our forward thinking.  If that's the case I hope there is more honesty shown to the player in private than is being shared with the supporters because at the moment Roos is treating us with little respect.

It could be more than just performance. If anything Roos is deeply philosophical and mental. It might be a personality issue for the likes of ANB and Newton.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

All discussion around selections aside, I think we have picked a very strong team for this game.  While their forward line is very, very dangerous, I think we clearly have the edge on them in the midfield battle and this will help to support the back half in their efforts to stop Betts, Tex and Jenkins.

Our forward line looks good too and could cause them some real problems, although this will be down to how much pressure our small brigade can put on them when the ball hits the deck.  If they can hit the scoreboard and force turnovers then there is no reason why we can't win.

[ArtificialWisdom 3,889]

Just now, Petraccattack said:

Garlett is very, very lucky.

I like the Matt Jones inclusion, he was very good earlier in the year before injury and will give us more than Trenners currently is.

Loved what matty jones brought early in the year, hope for him to become the next Nev Jetta, going from the cusp of delisting to being a first 22 player. He is currently doing everything to be that, good form early then injury then smashing it in the 2s to get back in quick. 

Garlett has to play, he is dangerous, Kent and Kennedy show glimpses but dont threaten the scoreboard in the same way. Its less likely to be bucketing down so that sould help him too.

[jnrmac 19,194]

Unhappy with Trengove being dropped. Has hardly had a chance to show his stuff. Was far from the worst against Sydney.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,323]

I guess Roos was a bit off the money when he said Grimes would be a regular fixture in the side for the run home and that his VFL form was too hard to ignore.

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

13 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I think the selections would be much easier to understand and accept if they matched Roos' rhetoric.  He preaches reward for good form and yet there are some very protected species in this team.  I like Vanders, Harmes and Garlett but two have been ordinary for a while and one is rewarded for a good game at Casey.  In the mean time Newton, ANB and Grimes play well week in week out for no reward.

It's clear these three are not in our forward thinking.  If that's the case I hope there is more honesty shown to the player in private than is being shared with the supporters because at the moment Roos is treating us with little respect.

He doesn't have to....gee all the sudden 'hatred' for Roos, and to think last year he was the saviour, now he is just a naughty boy

Edited July 1, 2016 by Satyriconhome

[Ted Lasso 16,930]

Gotta feel for both jacks.

Jack grimes bleeds red and blue that pic is heartbreaking

[Jaded No More 58,609]

Pretty peeved that Jones gets a game ahead of Grimes. Poor Grimes.

 

[Wilson7 2,532]

29 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Official Outs

Trenners Wagner Oliver 

Ins

Harmes Garlett M Jones..

Grimes emergency.....

Unbelievable once again... Garlett brought in based on poor form yet Grimes yet again named Emergency... Starting to get sick of this coaching staff and their selection panel. 

Trengove given 3 games and dropped..

Roos is starting to lose me.

They were 3 ordinary games Dazzle, take the emotion out of it, neither Grimes or Trengove in the team is a good thing. Roos is there every training session, he knows what they can and can't do, Roos is certainly not losing me, i like the changes, the ins have pace and we are in dire need of some

[Vagg 2,422]

2 minutes ago, Abe said:

Gotta feel for both jacks.

Jack grimes bleeds red and blue that pic is heartbreaking

Agree totally.  Has certainly got my weekend off on a downer!

[Demon Dynasty 15,735]

20 minutes ago, JV7 said:

No Grimes... Get stuffed. Maybe if Viney doesic't come up he or Trengove will replace him. But you gotta feel for Grimes, Gartlett does sweet [censored] all and gets back in, different players yes but still. Harmes goes back for one game and performs but comes straight back in. If I was grimes I'd tell Roos to stick it, I'll play the year out at casey 

JV If we lose on Sunday, and pretty sure we will (by 10+), may I suggest a nIce hot cuppa and a biccy before you hit submit on your  post match comment

[Wilson7 2,532]

The Jack Grimes pity train is starting to get abit over the top, it's Chris Lamb all over again. The selectors pick the best side to win the match, emotion does not come in to it. How can people here honestly get so [censored], believe me, Roos leaves us in the dust when it comes to knowing what his players are capable of. Be disappointed because you like Grimes, i understand that but starting to dislike Roos because Grimes isnt getting a game is rediculous

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

6 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

They were 3 ordinary games Dazzle, take the emotion out of it, neither Grimes or Trengove in the team is a good thing. Roos is there every training session, he knows what they can and can't do, Roos is certainly not losing me, i like the changes, the ins have pace and we are in dire need of some

Don't agree they were ordinary games, Trengove played his role, but agree looks to have gone for pace, if it works it is genius, if not pages of vitriol on here

[dazzledavey36 48,999]

Thanks for your service Grimes.. You were the face of a dark period for the club.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

19 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

He doesn't have to....gee all the sudden 'hatred' for Roos, and to think last year he was the saviour, now he is just a naughty boy

No you're right, he doesn't have to and he's showing that by his actions.  All Roos had to say on Jack is that it's difficult to fit him in with the competition for the spots he can play but he hopes he'll get a go soon.  Not this platitude of "I want him to be in really good form to give himself the best chance".  He's been "in really good form" and he hasn't been given an opportunity.

If he isn't in our thinking then that's fine but don't tell us one thing and do another.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Thanks for your service Grimes.. You were the face of a dark period for the club.

Nicely said Dazzle.  

[Je Roos Salem 661]

10 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

The Jack Grimes pity train is starting to get abit over the top, it's Chris Lamb all over again. The selectors pick the best side to win the match, emotion does not come in to it. How can people here honestly get so [censored], believe me, Roos leaves us in the dust when it comes to knowing what his players are capable of. Be disappointed because you like Grimes, i understand that but starting to dislike Roos because Grimes isnt getting a game is rediculous

I disagree. When Trengove was selected emotion would've played a part. Then there'd be some relationship issues and disciplinary issues affecting selections, and then the selection changes based on what's at stake