MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 12

[beelzebub 23,313]

Well am away to sin city for weekend for a 21st..back to melb for the afternoons encore of same such. Will probably not get to see a solitary second of the game. Strangely i feel happy as i sense a real thumping in the making.

The ghosts of 186 may yet come a visiting. Ateam with no real coherence or confidence facing an increasingly better Geelong at the Cattery.

Wont be pretty. ..but go Dees. Maybe someone might go mad and put their hand up.

Simonds is a parochial slaughterhouse for the unprepared.

May i be wrong...very wrong.

[Seraph 1,824]

The kid is 19 and has played 10 games.

Do you want him around for ten years or 1?

It is not as though this game was going to get us into the finals.

All the will change is the size of the loss.

I'm not talking about just one game. He missed all of last year and now 2 games this year through "soreness".

Just wondering if it's going to need to be managed for his entire career, and if there's potential for recurring injuries due to his back.

[Seraph 1,824]

Jordie wont play - he's in the 25 not the 22.

[Whispering_Jack 29,805]

THE PEOPLE SPEAK ... BUT DID THE CATS GET THEIR TONGUES? by Demonlanders

...

MELBOURNE

B: Daniel Cross, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta

HB: Jeremy Howe, Lynden Dunn, Heritier Lumumba

C: Jimmy Toumpas, Dom Tyson, Jack Viney

HF: Jack Watts, Chris Dawes, Billy Stretch

F: Jeff Garlett, [tba], Angus Brayshaw

FOLL: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Bernie Vince

I/C (from): Rohan Bail, Matt Jones, Jordie McKenzie, Viv Michie, Alex Neal-Bullen, Aidan Riley, Jake Spencer, Dean Terlich and the team bus driver

IN: Rohan Bail, Chris Dawes, Matt Jones, Jake Spencer, Dean Terlich

OUT: Jack Grimes (thumb), Jesse Hogan (hamstring), Cam Pedersen (wrist)

On behalf of the people, I have amended the team from the OP.

All bases now covered.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

You're a sorry lot.

McKenzie comes into the squad of 25, which doesn't mean he's playing...

We'll find out tonight anyway.

If posters had a long term view of what our team is going to look like in three years time, they'd realise bringing in McKenzie or any other second-tier player who's been solid in the VFL makes much more sense than bringing in one of our underdone kids who are still developing.

This is entirely about developing a really strong seconds side with kids having to earn games. McKenzie and co won't be around next year. We wont be playing finals this year. So why is it so hard to see a bloke like him come in rather than a kid we're trying to develop?

I'm rejoicing that the club is doing things like resting Hogan when his body requires it.

Think ahead demonlanders.

[Rich Demon 5]

Always wondered who the other supporter there was....

Its pathetic they allow about 100 opposition supporters in.

It's a myth the only allow 100 opposition supporters in. I bought tickets through ticketmaster.com.au earlier in the week Hundreds of seats plus GA still left then. And yes, as usual at Geelong I fully expect to be surrounded by Geelong supporters but this will be my 5th or 6th visit there. Saw the win, the draw and that loss plus a couple of others.

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Seriously considering not even turning thus game on.

[ChaserJ 5,009]

I'm not talking about just one game. He missed all of last year and now 2 games this year through "soreness".

Just wondering if it's going to need to be managed for his entire career, and if there's potential for recurring injuries due to his back.

Jesse's a young bash & crash kpf in his first year. Back related or not,, I'd imagine it's the responsible course of action to continue to manage him going forward throughout his career.

AFL's pretty demanding these days, and it's getting harder and harder for players to play every game in a season, never mind young blokes early in their careers.

[What 18,810]

Good time to rest Jesse, this week off then the bye too.

Should be cherry ripe to play out the 2nd half of the season.

But yeah, we are in real trouble now vs the Cats.

[Nasher 33,607]

The kid is 19 and has played 10 games.

Do you want him around for ten years or 1?

It is not as though this game was going to get us into the finals.

All the will change is the size of the loss.

I agree old dee, and with what stmj said regarding thinking of the big picture. I said earlier it is better to be disappointed for a week than to be disappointed for the remainder of the season.

Jesse made the comment in the media when he withdrew last time that due to his very heavy playing weight on his young body, he requires extra care to avoid injury. If his body is saying it needs rest, we rest it. He's only a baby and we're not competing for finals, there will be plenty of time for flogging him later on, hopefully when his body is up to maintaining the rigour of AFL footy for 26 matches a year.

[Maggot 1977 263]

100+ point belting on the cards ............ OR ........ one of the great wins in our clubs history.

[Little Richard 6,262]

100+ point belting on the cards ............ OR ........ one of the great wins in our clubs history.

Cup half full... a phrase never before seen on Demonland.

[Je Roos Salem 661]

He's conveniently missed the Hawks game with soreness and now the Cats in Geelong. Nevermind, just let a bunch of spuds compete with the two best teams of the past decade

[dazzledavey36 54,285]

You're a sorry lot.

McKenzie comes into the squad of 25, which doesn't mean he's playing...

We'll find out tonight anyway.

If posters had a long term view of what our team is going to look like in three years time, they'd realise bringing in McKenzie or any other second-tier player who's been solid in the VFL makes much more sense than bringing in one of our underdone kids who are still developing.

This is entirely about developing a really strong seconds side with kids having to earn games. McKenzie and co won't be around next year. We wont be playing finals this year. So why is it so hard to see a bloke like him come in rather than a kid we're trying to develop?

I'm rejoicing that the club is doing things like resting Hogan when his body requires it.

Think ahead demonlanders.

Its not the fact that its jordie coming in more like another selection blunder especially when down back they have River Lonergan and Taylor who will mark everything that comes their way. We have Dawes as our only tall forward and thats it.. Would have been perfect opportunity for Fitzy to go up forward and help Dawes out. Id rather try and get games into him then Jordi who lets be honest is finished at the end of the year.

We will lucky to score more then 5 goals this week.

[bing181 9,194]

Would have been perfect opportunity for Fitzy to go up forward and help Dawes out. Id rather try and get games into him then Jordi who lets be honest is finished at the end of the year.

Well, Joel won't play anyway, so no need for concern on that front. Fitzy has had some injury issue(s) the last couple of weeks, so perhaps that's a factor.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

Jordie McKenzie, Rohan Bail and Matty Jones...f... me its 186 all over again. This board will be in full meltdown by 7pm on Sunday. We are farrked

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

Lets add Spencer and Gawn and have one as the tall ful forward option. Roos has to show some creativity this week. Try something. Otherwise, the fans will be that depleted and depressed by Monday

[Demonsone 2,036]

We are jinxed.. No hogan .. Peddo out also .. Good luck Dawes marking anything!

Get ready 4 a goalless 1/2

[poita 3,896]

I'd love to see the club justify why Fitzpatrick has not been selected in the absence of Pedersen and now Hogan. Either he is fit enough to play this week or he isn't.

I can't see the value to playing him at Casey when he provides the tall forward / backup ruck we desperately need. What do we do when Gawn runs out of puff in the third quarter - put McDonald in the ruck?

If we get within 15 goals this week it will be a miracle.

[Young Blood 2,586]

Only good outcome is it forces a bit of Pressure on Gawn to go forward and make an impact. Might have been a little better to add Jamar instead of Spence? If ones not doing well down forward the other goes down there?

Puts more pressure on the midfield to kick goals now. Oh boy

Edited June 19, 2015 by mongrel

[Moneider96 1,045]

We will get smashed because we won't score enough goals, not because Geelong will score too many.

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Lulling them into a nice sense of security!

Go Dees!

[Demonsone 2,036]

I'd love to see the club justify why Fitzpatrick has not been selected in the absence of Pedersen and now Hogan. Either he is fit enough to play this week or he isn't.

I can't see the value to playing him at Casey when he provides the tall forward / backup ruck we desperately need. What do we do when Gawn runs out of puff in the third quarter - put McDonald in the ruck?

If we get within 15 goals this week it will be a miracle.

Because he's playing tunnel ball!

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

Jamar or Spencer have to play as a forward. Othwerwise we have raised the white flag before the game and the players will know it and not bother. As bad as that sounds, our list is like that. We gotta believe we can win.

[old dee 23,781]

He's conveniently missed the Hawks game with soreness and now the Cats in Geelong. Nevermind, just let a bunch of spuds compete with the two best teams of the past decade

Or what run him into the ground.