Post Match Discussion - Round 9

[Dee Fan 3,247]

We beat Richmond and this turns in to a Toumpas thread. Good lord.

Look at Pedersen under the coaching of Paul Roos. I feel like if he can become an AFL player then so can the Toump.

Anyway my favourite player for today was Nathan Jones. I'm sorry Viney, Tyson, Vince, Cross, Pedersen, Jamar and Gawn but wow Jones was at his maniacal best today.

But my second favourite was and is my second favourite in Col Garland.

Unfortunately my least favourite was Jack Grimes. I can't help but think moving him in to the midfield has fried his brain that was just starting to come back to him at the Adelaide game. Please please Jack can you find your urgency, vision and skill with the ball (by hand and foot). You've got it in you I know!

Wow, no room for Watts there? 3 Goals 19 possessions 11 Marks.

[Crompton's the man 659]

I think that Pedersen just needed to feel that he was wanted and part of a team culture. Roos has made him and the other players feel that way.

Watching from a distance (Qld) and having chewed through fingernails, the end game was really pleasing - last two years we would have folded in that position and will probably occasionally still.

The feeling of being valued in the team is showing through. It is so great to see JKH demand the ball at the end, his lead being honoured and his reliable kick delivered under pressure. So good for building morale - and how different to Jones being a sole hand week after week.

Jack Viney !!! Wow

[Blinkybill 276]

Wondered about that

Negligent

High contact

Light impact

82.5

Don't know about light impact. I think Dawes will get a week. I hope I'm wrong.

[beelzebub 23,377]

Be interested to see how this goes...what with the Club having a crack at overzealous punishments.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

I think that Pedersen just needed to feel that he was wanted and part of a team culture. Roos has made him and the other players feel that way.

THIS is it. Watch is 'Getting to know you'. Just a super nice, family man who was desperate to BE in a team, not as a "fringe player", or injury fill in.

He is in our best 22 EASILY now.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

My god there are some fools just because jimmy is not played as good as wines does not mean u give up on him, the posters who have called for him to be delisted is just stupid, not many players have been as good as wines first two seasons, anyway we don't need him we have vinny, who will turn out much better then wines.

Still, has a nice ring to it, Viney and Wines......

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Whatever Pedo has in his water bottle this year I want a crate load of. From being a train wreak last year to a solid team player this year is amazing.

The next time you see JKH play watch the speed he gets to his feet after a contest to compete again, I cant remember anybody so fast as him regaining his feet and getting to the next contest.

GREAT WIN.

Yeah Ive really been noticing that.

[jazza 1,323]

employ a coach known for shutting down games and playing hard to watch footy.

dont make team changes unless needed.

kick down the line unless delivery place assured.

shut down oppo and give the players a chance to see we are close at 3/4 time.

pedders and terlich not sacked but given positions and TRUST.

jones was good,but viney and cross were like mongrel dogs in close,a better inside game not seen at melbourne for a long time.

mmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxx is back.

jamar,dawes, and howe are playing to team rules every week.

yep,PR might be a good coach.

[Cards13 9,117]

So enjoyable!!!!! Can't wait for the replay.

Was so much fun seeing the Tigs supporters leaving well before the game was over. Am amazed as the softness of other supporters, after the sh it we have been through and seeing a club like Tigs and Ess fans leaving with the game still in the balance is an embarrassment to them.

[Crompton's the man 659]

Don't know about light impact. I think Dawes will get a week. I hope I'm wrong.

Yes

82.5 is wishful thinking, especially if he has carryover points......

They could play the Chapman footage from a couple of weeks ago, on the other hand, and maybe give him a gold star instead of a week

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

Loved the game. It was as ugly as a Brian Taylor comedy gala which is exactly what we needed. Teams look awful when they play us even if they win apart from WC we make teams look bad.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

So enjoyable!!!!! Can't wait for the replay.

Was so much fun seeing the Tigs supporters leaving well before the game was over. Am amazed as the softness of other supporters, after the sh it we have been through and seeing a club like Tigs and Ess fans leaving with the game still in the balance is an embarrassment to them.

Best thing about the replay is no Brian Taylor ruining the game. Give me Sandy any day. I love the fact that when we win there is mass evacuation of a stadium.

[jnrmac 20,082]

I have to draw attention to our backline brain fade, rancid skill, weak turnovers and especially the ones that lead directly to scoring shots. We have got to eradicate this or the really good teams will annihilate us.

Matt Jones at least makes up for it with some great forward run.

I still can't completely trust Terlich in a one-on-one contest, kicking inside defensive 50, or decision makling in a handball chain. He works very hard and takes some good intercept marks but he is always a bit shaky.

Tom Mac is frightening on the run. Tall, quick and often beats his opponent but he is in the Ben Holland class of "please handball". His decision making is frightening.

Howe's turnover was a genuine howler (no pun intended) but he had a great game.

I don't know what the answer is but it makes my guts turn when at the game. Are Terlich and T Mac solid in their positions?

Quite confident when they are defending. Its when we have the ball that seems to be the major problem....

[pitmaster 3,558]

This year was always going to be a journey, and at 0-3 I told myself the second half will be better than the first. The ground work was there against the Saints and the Suns but did not really shine through, I think, until we match the Swans grunt for grunt.

(The Carlton win was down to their ineptitude and lousy goal kicking as much as our revival.)

Since the Swans we've done Adelaide, should have done the 'Dogs but most importantly we bounced back from disappointment to do the Tiges. Mentally we're better, but let's consider Roos' achievement.

He's taken a plodder in Pederson and given him the confidence to play forward and take huge grabs. Howe in defence was superb yesterday, what a great move none on this page would have made. He's lifted Bail's output incredibly and I reckon Terlich yesterday went up a level. Of course, bringing in Vince was inspired and we knew Viney was a beast, but it's the change in those second rank players that's driving the joint and that's down to the coach. Matt Jones, good as he was in a bad bunch last year, can be forgiven that lousy cross in defence since he was strong elsewhere.

Toump has progressed too. And I love the support he has shown Salem.

I hate Mark Maclure but he got one thing right yesterday when he said Melbourne players just needed some love.

[Maple Demon 449]

The Dees have definitely improved. Not so long ago they would have panicked when the match was close, now they seem to trust in themselves, their coach, and their teammates. Regardless of who the opponent was (as panned by some), it was a good win.

Btw, the last time we reached 3 wins in a season was rd 19 in 2012. 3 wins in half the time. Surely we can take this progress and development into the 2nd half of the season.

[dazzledavey36 54,946]

Still, has a nice ring to it, Viney and Wines......

No it doesn't.

[P-man 13,366]

We clearly got the worst of the maggots in the second half today especially in front of goal. Couldn't believe some of the decisions they were getting paid and some of the ones we weren't getting it was a disgraceful performance by them. I can't understand d how the umpiring can be so poor and inconsistent every single week and even within games.

It just makes the win all the sweeter. There were some APPALLING, momentum changing decisions that I would still be fuming over had we lost the match.

Fortunately, we didn't, so who cares.

We put the final nail into Richmond's season.

Ah, so good.

[jazza 1,323]

good to see some missing threads.

hoges gone=no issue atm

mitch gone

bacline looks weak without frawley

m.jones not up to it

jamar gone

wheres fitzy

pedders no good

not sure about cross

should weve taken salem

jkh might be to small

etc etc etc

wins certainly change posts.

Edited May 18, 2014 by jazza

[old dee 23,791]

The best things about this win for me were

- Brian Taylor crying in his beer

- the form of Watts, Pedersen, Jamar and Viney

- oh yes we won

The worst thing was the form of Grimes just watched again on the replay. He was terrible IMO

A good side would have nailed us because of his blunders.

Fortunately for him Richmond could not hit the side of a barn.

Oh and again

WE WON again this morning.

Edited May 18, 2014 by old dee

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,177]

Forgot about Grimes. I thought he lessened Martin's impact after half time but never actually beat him. His disposal has been heaps better this year, but that one turnover today was classic Grimes.

I like Grimes, I have a jumper with his number on the back even but I thought yesterday he was the weakest link in our side. Made some appalling errors in both skill and decision making, has no awareness to tag a player, is courageous but lacks any body strength to break or hold a tackle.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

Does anyone think that Dawes will be suspended for his head high fend off?

I reckon he might have a week or two off.

Hope not but this is Melbourne and we always (sorry most of the time) get screwed over.

Pay the free kick, that's all it warranted. Edited May 18, 2014 by Al's Demons

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

Bernie Vince; how did the Crows let him go.

Dom Tyson; how did the giants let him go.

Chris Dawes; how did the Pies let him go.

BTW how safe is Dunne's marking in the back line; wtf happened to the old jumper puncher.

Dawes has taken his game to a new level since joining us. His fierce bone crunching tackles being one example .

[dazzledavey36 54,946]

Fair dinkum watching game day and they have Cotchin and Chaplin as panelists and you would have thought might have won yesterday. Cotchin 3 things we learnt was disgraceful. Could only muster up one positive for the dees saying how our big man stretched there backline then had the guts to say Ben Lennon is a younger player to watch in the future. What about Dom Tyson who pulled your pants down? Or JKH who put the nail in the coffin?

Unbelievable.

[dazzledavey36 54,946]

Fair dinkum watching Game Day and they have Cotchin and Chaplin as panelists and you would have thought might have won yesterday. Cotchin 3 things we learnt was disgraceful. Could only muster up one positive for the dees saying how our big man stretched there backline then had the guts to say Ben Lennon is a younger player to watch in the future. What about Dom Tyson who pulled your pants down? Or JKH who put the nail in the coffin?

Unbelievable.

Edited May 18, 2014 by dazzledavey36

[What 18,810]

Fair dinkum watching game day and they have Cotchin and Chaplin as panelists and you would have thought might have won yesterday. Cotchin 3 things we learnt was disgraceful. Could only muster up one positive for the dees saying how our big man stretched there backline then had the guts to say Ben Lennon is a younger player to watch in the future. What about Dom Tyson who pulled your pants down? Or JKH who put the nail in the coffin?

Unbelievable.

we beat Richmond, and they had Cotchin and Chaplin on the show?

Sounds like a horrible program, never watched it and never will as that Hamish McLachlin bloke is a massive [censored]