The Jack Viney bump that never was!

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They'll watch it in real time first and see that Viney didn't initiate the contact. Have a look at it and look at where Viney is when Lynch takes possession and where he is when contact is made, he barely moves.

Agree. my initial view was that the Adelaide player was driven into Viney by the tackle. He doesn't initiate contact

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

What else could have Viney done?

[Moonshadow 17,676]

What else could have Viney done?

The issue is the contact to his head by Viney's shoulder. Only thing he could have done would have been to drop the shoulder lower to hit him on the rib cage/chest. Very hard to do given how quickly it happened. They'll probably say that if he had time to brace himself he had time to tackle or drop the hit lower.

[Young Dee 1,303]

I loved how by the time Georgiou and Lynch hit the deck Viney has gathered the ball and is bulldozing his way through a pack.

[Red N Blue Society 165]

If you choose to bump and injury results you usually find yourself in strife.

Thoughts?

Not going to happen. Viney protected his own body more than he tried to put his eyes on the man with the ball. It was a perfect hip and shoulder and the Jaw was an accident for Lynch unfortunately.

If Viney is outed for that........Playing the ball.....I will be disgusted yet again with the AFL.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

Apart from the bump being side on and normal, even if there was something in it, which I don't think there was , how could it have been avoided in the time available? Unfortunate for Lynch for sure but would be silly if he got rubbed out for that.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Apart from the bump being side on and normal, even if there was something in it, which I don't think there was , how could it have been avoided in the time available? Unfortunate for Lynch for sure but would be silly if he got rubbed out for that.

I think it's part of the game too Dockett32, but it's fair to say he could have tackled. If there was time for him to brace side on, there was time to tackle, unfortunately. I watched the footage again on the afl site and tried to picture in my mind JV putting his arms out to wrap Lynch up in a tackle with Georgie. There was time.

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But couldnt you say Lynch broke his jaw when he collided with Georgiou?

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

But couldnt you say Lynch broke his jaw when he collided with Georgiou?

Lynch should be looked at for concussing Georgiou...

[Return to Glory 8,441]

Listen, last week Josh Look at my latest outfit Gibson left the ground and delivered a forearm to the head. Not only was he not suspended but he received less carry over points than Georgiou. If Viney is suspended they can all go get facked.

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Jon Ralph on SEN about 20 minutes ago sounded incredulous when someone brought up the Tex Walker tweet asserting Viney could be looked at. He suggested Tex may have been on the turps and that Viney was just going "low and hard" for the ball.

[jazza 1,323]

What else could have Viney done?

lifted the elbow a bit,and then he wouldve made sure of it.

[monoccular 17,428]

Let me get this right.... Two players go for ball, one braces for impact, he his guilty because the other player doesn't? Is that how the rule works?

Not only the other player didn't brace but he actually fell further into his path. (A bit like Bartel fell into Moloney's leg - which may or may not have made contact - but hey guess what? Which club do we follow?)

AND Viney clearly was going for the ball - after all he picked it up and delivered in a microsecond.

I understand your frustration jnrmac, it frustrates me too but the rule is pretty black & white these days. If you choose to bump you suffer any consequences.

But the point is he didm't choose to bump - he turned to protect himself. After all he has himself had a broken jaw and may have seen another coming.

What else could have Viney done?

Ducked to avoid contact? But he wouldn't know how.

Edited May 4, 2014 by monoccular

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Not only the other player didn't brace but he actually fell further into his path. (A bit like Bartel fell into Moloney's leg - which may or may not have made contact - but hey guess what? Which club do we follow?)

But the point is he didm't choose to bump - he turned to protect himself. After all he has himself had a broken jaw and may have seen another coming.

Ducked to avoid contact? But he wouldn't know how.

HTF would ducking avoid contact?

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

I lust loved that Viney knocked out two players in one hit and won the footy as well.

The kid will be unstoppable!

[monoccular 17,428]

HTF would ducking avoid contact?

Ducking, a movement not known to this payer, could have meant that his jaw would be broken and not the other guy's.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Todd would have to have been very proud watching his son play yesterday.

Jack's performance was bloody awesome. He is already a leader.

[titan_uranus 25,019]

If Viney does fall foul of the MRP we could raise the Sylvia v Josh Kennedy (WC) precedent.

There's no such thing as precedent with the MRP.

Yet another reason why the MRP is a disgrace.

Agree with this 100%. You need to punish the intention and the conduct, not the fact that an unfortunate / freak injury results from what is otherwise legitimate conduct. It means that dog acts which do not result in injury do not get appropriately punished. Basically we have a system where it's just about luck as to whether a player is injured or not.

The MRP would probably give a guy who tripped over on the street and accidentally fell across someone's leg and broke it a 10 year jail term, while giving a fine to someone who shot at another person's head but just missed.

Also agree. The same action can get 0 weeks or 3 weeks based solely on any injury. It's very, very flawed, but it's why I think Viney is going to get weeks.

[Deestroy All 14,266]

Just a 3 player collision that looked like a bump, absolutely nothing in it.

So probably 3 weeks.

[Steamin Demon 392]

This will only be looked at after 9.05am when that old [censored] KB does his take in SEN and puts Vineys name up in lights !!

Nothing in it but we will get the royal screw job once again. 3 weeks.

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Here's how it works

Eyes on the ball and ended up with the ball proving he made the ball his main object NOT the player (oops scrub that, we only suspend here)

This comes under the clause plays for the MFC:

High impact = +1 week

Accidental = deduct 1 week

Injury to face was incurred = +2 weeks

Tally up activation points and divide x2

Then plays too rough, gone through junior footy with kids mums complaining, activation pts divided, then multiply by the amount of times he goes in too hard.

Early guilty plea taken into account the Adelaide player will miss a month BUT wiped out a teammate as well (MFC clause = bonus pts) - deduct 2 weeks

Wearing a MFC jumper = +2 weeks (ignore previous good record)

MFC Player Viney out for 2 weeks (If it was any other high profile player it wouldnt be an issue, ie Gablett)

Trenners slammed dunked Dangermouse and got cruxified, dont expect any favours from these morons.

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I think it's part of the game too Dockett32, but it's fair to say he could have tackled. If there was time for him to brace side on, there was time to tackle, unfortunately. I watched the footage again on the afl site and tried to picture in my mind JV putting his arms out to wrap Lynch up in a tackle with Georgie. There was time.

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Sorry. Not well written on my part. Just meant I thought he had time to tackle rather than bump.

[dees189227 12,394]

Bernie Vince said on adelaide mmm after the game last night Viney is mad as a cut snake who just goes straight for the ball.

Edited May 4, 2014 by dees189227

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What else could have Viney done?

He shot Mr Burns!