Rohan Bail - 2014

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,694]

Like to know your thoughts on Bail for 2014.

One of the least talked about players on the list.

Would probably have been delisted had he been off contract.

Can anyone see him forcing his way into our best 22?

What's his best position?

What are his strengths?

I among others rated him and 2010 and 2011 and was disappointed injuries curtailed him.

However he had a full season in 2012 and his skill errors became glaring and his goal kicking was erratic.

2013 was injury and form riddled.

Thoughts on Bail going forward?

[Undeeterred 2,908]

He's a good runner, with an appalling kick (especially for goal).

And he is one decent knock away from being permanently concussed.

That just about sums it up for mine.

[Sir Why You Little 35,392]

I don't think he should be playing. Concussion injuries are now seen far more seriously.

You are still only young Rohan.

Edited November 28, 2013 by why you little

[DeeSpencer 23,714]

I had high hopes for him at one stage. Has the pace, endurance and hardness to make a decent defensive forward.

Even if his first game this year at AFL level against West Coast he came on, made a few brilliant efforts then copped a knock on the head that clearly had him worried.

He's always struck me as a decent bloke as well.

Anything we get from him going forward will be a bonus but hopefully he provides a role in educating younger players on training standards and taking their chance when they get it and plays well enough at Casey to at least be in contention.

[monoccular 16,745]

I tend to agree with why you little - he really should retire while he still knows how. I fear for his long term mental and physical health if he gets even one more knock. (And keep him away from Campbell Brown).

[dazzledavey36 49,920]

Should have retired this year.

[DeeSpencer 23,714]

I tend to agree with why you little - he really should retire while he still knows how. I fear for his long term mental and physical health if he gets even one more knock. (And keep him away from Campbell Brown).

It's a tough one. Because the evidence about concussion and brain injury is still up in the air. All Bail knows right now is that a concussion is likely to give him bad short term symptoms but that in itself might mean nothing for his long term health. I must say if I was him and the medical opinion wasn't definitive I'd probably keep playing. Another year on a reasonable contract really sets him up post footy and careful neurological and psychological follow up for the rest of his life might avoid any problems.

[hells bells 2,023]

Casey

[Forest Demon 4,681]

oh FFS, just judge him him on his football ability and let him and the docs deal with the rest.

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Is there a link or can someone expand on Bails concussion issue?

[Carrot Top 947]

Assuming he's coming out of contract, then I'd assume he'd be on the short list for delisting at year's end. I like some of what he has to offer, but think that it's won't be enough for him to be kept around.

[beelzebub 22,789]

oh FFS, just judge him him on his football ability and let him and the docs deal with the rest.

because the history of sports has been so attentive and caring in this respect.

Diesel says hi btw

Bail ought to retire for the sake of his family ,even if he cant see it for himself.

[Satyriconhome 10,098]

I spoke to him at training last week and raised the concussion issue, he has completed an exhaustive battery of tests and he is fine with it, has been given the "all clear", interpret that whatever way you wamt to

Copped a whack straight on the chin during the session, did the joke about having a head people like.....to etc

Training with the forwards, assume defensive forward is the go, going with some of the rebounding defenders, he can run all day, so assume attempting to hurt going the other way as well

He is not that poor a kick, another one of those perpetuating mythis on here

[Nasher 33,319]

I spoke to him at training last week and raised the concussion issue, he has completed an exhaustive battery of tests and he is fine with it, has been given the "all clear", interpret that whatever way you wamt to

This is what I thought would be the case. With all the awareness about concussion management, I'd be staggered if the club doctors would allow Rohan anywhere near a footy field if there was any concern at all. Of course, what would they know compared to WYL and co?

[old dee 23,292]

I spoke to him at training last week and raised the concussion issue, he has completed an exhaustive battery of tests and he is fine with it, has been given the "all clear", interpret that whatever way you wamt to

Copped a whack straight on the chin during the session, did the joke about having a head people like.....to etc

Training with the forwards, assume defensive forward is the go, going with some of the rebounding defenders, he can run all day, so assume attempting to hurt going the other way as well

He is not that poor a kick, another one of those perpetuating mythis on here

We are going to disagree on this one Saty

He is a poor kick

[beelzebub 22,789]

I spoke to him at training last week and raised the concussion issue, he has completed an exhaustive battery of tests and he is fine with it, has been given the "all clear", interpret that whatever way you wamt to

Thats medico speak for your all right , just at the moment. He seems to have a distinct predisposition to concussions from otherwise innocuous knocks. Some players suffer nothing, some get a good head rattle. He appears to qualify in the latter category.

I thought Rohan would step up and be something . Injuries aside I just dont see where he is going to play now or that he adds that much to the list at present.

Very , very surprised he hasnt been tapped.

[old dee 23,292]

Thats medico speak for your all right , just at the moment. He seems to have a distinct predisposition to concussions from otherwise innocuous knocks. Some players suffer nothing, some get a good head rattle. He appears to qualify in the latter category.

I thought Rohan would step up and be something . Injuries aside I just dont see where he is going to play now or that he adds that much to the list at present.

Very , very surprised he hasnt been tapped.

You are reading my mind again bb. I agree

[rpfc 27,711]

It's up to him if he wants to continue playing. Most footy players are going to feel the effects of their career later on in life - not just the obvious candidates like Bail.

As an NFL fan - I hope we can reel in the damage, the rule changes in the AFL to protect the head are ahead of its time amongst football codes.

It's an existential question in the US right now that might change the sport at its core or make it difficult to play it at all.

[pitmaster 3,164]

He give his all but I can't see a future for him beyond this year. He has some dash but his disposal is something decent teams would not tolerate.

That said he has already played 44 more games than me for the mighty red and blue. I hope he makes it to 50 games even if it takes until round 22.

Preferably without any more KOs.

[monoccular 16,745]

It's up to him if he wants to continue playing. Most footy players are going to feel the effects of their career later on in life - not just the obvious candidates like Bail.

As an NFL fan - I hope we can reel in the damage, the rule changes in the AFL to protect the head are ahead of its time amongst football codes.

It's an existential question in the US right now that might change the sport at its core or make it difficult to play it at all.

Yet serial thug Campbell Brown gets a light tap on the knuckles for head kicking!!!!!

[drdrake 3,066]

He shouldn't get a game, as a small forward he should be behind, Kent, Byrnes, Blease, Tapscott and most likely the kid we drafted. On talent those guys should be ahead of him, but form and desire Bail at some stage through the year may cover these guys.

[nutbean 8,837]

I see the "poor disposal" as a secondary issue.

To me he is a hard at it midfielder. The major problem is he doesn't get his hands on it often enough and as pointed out, when he does get the pill his disposal is iffy.

Yes he has to use the ball better but first step is to get more involved.

If this doesn't improve then he will be an end of year casualty.

[beelzebub 22,789]

I see the "poor disposal" as a secondary issue.

To me he is a hard at it midfielder. The major problem is he doesn't get his hands on it often enough and as pointed out, when he does get the pill his disposal is iffy.

Yes he has to use the ball better but first step is to get more involved.

If this doesn't improve then he will be an end of year casualty.

In my mind Nut hes already on that list ( hes not alone either )

[Satyriconhome 10,098]

He shouldn't get a game, as a small forward he should be behind, Kent, Byrnes, Blease, Tapscott and most likely the kid we drafted. On talent those guys should be ahead of him, but form and desire Bail at some stage through the year may cover these guys.

Kent has a problem with his patella and is not running at the moment, Roos wants Blease to get fit (his words not mine) Byrnes and Tapscott are in the rehab group , Roh Bail is in full training and has been since day 1, so maybe he is ahead at the moment

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

Because of his running ability, do people see him as a tagger? I think his disposal isn't great, but it's better than McKenzie's. Conversely, his tackling technique is not as good as he gives away too many frees for head high tackles and "in the back". I've always thought his natural position was as a "run with" player.