The Successor

[tonatopia 278]

Kirk.

Spirit is the number1 ingredient in successful footy.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Be Patient.

AFL.com.au understands Melbourne is determined to ensure that the club gets the best candidate to fill the job rather than limiting the field to those available in 2014.

[Vitamin Dee 849]

Dew has basically turned down a secured senior coaching role in 3 years, unusual if there isn't anything at the end of the rainbow.

I wonder if this is part of Sydney's succession plan by which Longmire returns to Vic, and, maybe take over from Roos?

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Dew has basically turned down a secured senior coaching role in 3 years, unusual if there isn't anything at the end of the rainbow.

I wonder if this is part of Sydney's succession plan by which Longmire returns to Vic, and, maybe take over from Roos?

If Longmire returns to vic it will be to coach the ROOS

We might then get Brad Scott.... pffttt

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Looks like it's Paul Roos for the next six to ten years then.

[Demoneyes 562]

Brett Kirk for me!

[Spin-it-to-Goodwin-it 579]

I say go after Simon Black as the Successor (that's if we don't already have him lined up)

Or even as an "on field" coach for 1 more year like Junior Mcdonald did with GWS - Should be able to draft him for a bag of peanuts

Feels like the right kind of candidate to learn from Roosy for 2-3 years, and would be great for the young midfielders to learn from.

A decision on his future in the coming days: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/simon-black-denies-rumours-he-has-retired-and-will-join-sydney-swans-as-a-coach/story-fndv8d6r-1226736773198

[dees189227 11,012]

Channel Seven weathergirl Sarah Cumming?

Who's the weathergirl on Seven in Melb these days?

Is it Judd? Can she be bumped? She's horrible.

Surely Channel 10 is looking for an upgrade?

NO Judd is on 9. Giaan Rooney is the 7 weather girl

Well I guess Dew is out of the running. The thing is I dont think we need to rush on a successor. Roos has at least 2 years to work through it. We can see which assistants will be suitable. But I reckon Brett Kirk would be a very good senior coach.

[Gorgoroth 12,351]

Early on Voss was tipped to be at pies. With Burns there maybe Voss is a chance.

[DeeSpencer 23,424]

More than happy to wait until next year but I want the senior assistant together with Roos for 2 years.

Continuity with Roos is the ingredient most important for a successful transition.

The players have to trust the senior assistant when they get the job. That trust is hard to build in 1 season alone.

We also can't sell guys we want to trade in on the packaged deal. I was looking forward to this next year when we can show potential recruits just how well the Roos and assistant have worked and so on. Now this year we sell Roos for one or two years then who knows takes over and this time next year we might be selling 1 year with Roos and a brand new head coach.

Players want to move to a place where they no a coach rates them and will be around for a long time to keep rating them.

[Deeoldfart 7,818]

Dew has basically turned down a secured senior coaching role in 3 years, unusual if there isn't anything at the end of the rainbow.

I wonder if this is part of Sydney's succession plan by which Longmire returns to Vic, and, maybe take over from Roos?

On the other hand, it's just possible that someone from the MFC whispered in Dew's ear that he isn't the number one choice for our Senior Assistant's gig, prompting him to extend his contract with Sydney.

[DeeSpencer 23,424]

NO Judd is on 9. Giaan Rooney is the 7 weather girl

Well I guess Dew is out of the running. The thing is I dont think we need to rush on a successor. Roos has at least 2 years to work through it. We can see which assistants will be suitable. But I reckon Brett Kirk would be a very good senior coach.

Disagree on both points.

We bring in the successor late and its Melbournes 8th coach since Daniher left mid way through 2007 (Daniher, Riley, Bailey, Viney, Neeld, Craig, Roos).

Bring in the successor early and it's Roos' man taking over.

And Kirk just seems a bit too alternative to be a good senior coach to me. Not to mention we start losing and he's shot in the media.

[DeeSpencer 23,424]

On the other hand, it's just possible that someone from the MFC whispered in Dew's ear that he isn't the number one choice for our Senior Assistant's gig, prompting him to extend his contract with Sydney.

Doubtful. Media make a lot of mistakes but they were confident that Dew was the man. It's not like their are any other names out there right now.

I'd say we've blown it for this year. Roos now stays for 3 years which impacts the finances but could be well worth it and we have the entire 2014 season to analyse coaching prospects.

[beelzebub 22,287]

Be Patient.

AFL.com.au understands Melbourne is determined to ensure that the club gets the best candidate to fill the job rather than limiting the field to those available in 2014.

geebus there a loto of nervous nelly impatient desperados !!

All in good time

[titan_uranus 22,731]

If we are looking for the best candidate, and that person isn't available in 2013, then Roos absolutely has to stay here for at least three years. There is no point in having a succession plan if Roos and the successor only work together for one season.

Because of this, I'm inclined to think that we've messed up somewhat this year. The indications from the club were that we'd sign a senior assistant coach this year. Now, the fact that we're saying we are happy to wait till 2014 to get the best available may be because we think/know Ling or someone else will be available next year. However, it may also be butt-covering, and right now I'm not sure.

[Ouch! 2,043]

If we are looking for the best candidate, and that person isn't available in 2013, then Roos absolutely has to stay here for at least three years. There is no point in having a succession plan if Roos and the successor only work together for one season.

Because of this, I'm inclined to think that we've messed up somewhat this year. The indications from the club were that we'd sign a senior assistant coach this year. Now, the fact that we're saying we are happy to wait till 2014 to get the best available may be because we think/know Ling or someone else will be available next year. However, it may also be butt-covering, and right now I'm not sure.

Agree with the above comments.

To me it's about perception here, we have tried to land Dew it would appear, and we didn't. Now if we come out and say the person we want is not coming till next year, it looks bad.

[Spin-it-to-Goodwin-it 579]

On the other hand, it's just possible that someone from the MFC whispered in Dew's ear that he isn't the number one choice for our Senior Assistant's gig, prompting him to extend his contract with Sydney.

Entirely possible - subterfuge aplently this time of year.

We have all been very well conditioned into thinking Dew was the "Man" we wanted. Was this actually the case or was it designed to hide the clubs real intent on a Successor?

Edited October 12, 2013 by Roosy's Bruisers

[Deeoldfart 7,818]

Entirely possible - subterfuge aplently this time of year.

We have a ll be very well conditioned into thinking Dew was the "Man" we wanted. Was this actually the case or was it designed to hide the clubs real intent on a Successor?

Yeah, or maybe we were keen to get Dew as our midfield coach, but not as the anointed Successor. We are all guessing at this point, and will probably never know!

[Young Dee 1,303]

Be Patient.

AFL.com.au understands Melbourne is determined to ensure that the club gets the best candidate to fill the job rather than limiting the field to those available in 2014.

So I guess we have to go into hibernation for three years because the "preferred candidate" was Dew.

[rjay 24,038]

So I guess we have to go into hibernation for three years because the "preferred candidate" was Dew.

Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't.

[Spin-it-to-Goodwin-it 579]

Yeah, or maybe we were keen to get Dew as our midfield coach, but not as the anointed Successor. We are all guessing at this point, and will probably never know!

Fair point you make though, given that Sydney were carrying on, saying that Dew was not being offered a genuine upgrade in position. And if there was a genuine upgrade on offer to Dew, why has the Coaches association backed the Swans. More paper bags?

[Wunders 392]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-12/swans-lock-in-dew

There goes Dew. Re-signed for 3 years with the swans..

[Geddy Lee 582]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-12/swans-lock-in-dew

There goes Dew. Re-signed for 3 years with the swans..

He must be a great coach.

[Jaded No More 58,935]

Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

The longer it takes to find a successor the longer Roos stays as head coach. Which is what we all really want.

Who knows, maybe this coming year will change his mind and he will want to coach on beyond the next 3 years.

[demonoid 317]

Luke beveridge is getting a big lick on the afl website. Sorry can't get the link