MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION

[drdrake 3,057]

I hate Hawthorn more than any club in the competition and by a long way. I dislike there supporters, in fact the only two times I have come close to belting someone at the footy was last year against Hawthorn when some low life got into the trident reserved area with his mates and got right on our faces and my brother who is a Hawthorn supporter after Jimmy ran across the mark.

The underlying issue I have with Hawthorn is that we the MFC are their Bi..hes, their whipping boys, they own us and have done for some time. We talk about '87, the '88 through the early 90's and especially over the past 9 years. 2004 they sucked winning 4 games beat us round 1, 2005 Hawthorn Sucked winning 5 matches, they beat us, 2006 one year we smashed them and this would be the last win over them, the loss round 1 2008 was smashing, they destroyed us and basically have done so every game since. 2011 we had them at half time to be absolutely smashed in the third quarter. This week if they decide to beat us by 120 points they will.

We move into Sunday, I will be their but unless our team can show some sort of fight It could be only for a very short time. The Biff is out of the game but we need to start something in the first quarter, all in just hopefully may fire us up and get them off there game. Hawthorn in 2008 played unsocial football, every chance they had to stick an elbow in your ribs and annoy the crap out of you the did, this is what we need to do. If it gets heated so be it a few fines, god knows our players haven't deserved their full match payments over the past 9 weeks anyway.

I heard Dermie talking about the Hawthorn/Essendon game I believe 2006 or 07, the frustration on the past players was the Hawthorn had become Esseondons Whipping boys, they still got beaten that game but the next they won and haven't lost to them since. It was the turning point for that young inexpereinced Group.

[Demonland 66,532]

YOU GOTTA SUPPORT THE TEAM by George on the Outer

It was Jerry Seinfelds response to a question from Elaine what compels a seemingly normal human being to do something like that?

So what would compel a seemingly normal Melbourne supporter to turn up and watch what could only be described as a massacre in the making?

You guessed it:

Now I know this is meant to be a preview but we first look at the recent history.

Round 7, 2012

Melbourne 6.13 (49)

Hawthorn 15.25 (115)

Round 18, 2011

Melbourne 12.6 (78)

Hawthorn 20.12 (132)

Round 2, 2011

Melbourne 12.5 (77)

Hawthorn 16.26 (122)

Round 20, 2010

Melbourne 12.6 (78)

Hawthorn 15.9 (99)

Round 1, 2010

Melbourne 8.13 (61)

Hawthorn 17.15 (117)

Well theres nothing in that recent history which would inspire anyone the only common factor seems to be that Melbourne are only capable of 18 to 20 scoring shots on goal in the whole game!

Phew! I thought that Mark Neeld's presence caused us to stink but it seems that we have been consistently on the nose for a long time before that, and I didnt want to dredge too far back into the past against Hawthorn, lest I come up against a certain preliminary final match in the late 80s!

We do, of course, live with eternal hope. We could find someone in the side who has the same intestinal fortitude as Ben Watson in this clip:

Also note we would struggle to have ANY recent pictures on the walls at the club if we used the Patriots criteria.

And Watsons comment stuff like that doesnt take a whole lot of talent rings particularly with what is lacking at Melbourne today. Its all about effortits all the fans need, but they are being starved of any sort of hope until the players decide that they are prepared to put in

THE GAME Melbourne v Hawthorn at the MCG Sunday 2 June 2013 at 3.20 pm.

HEAD TO HEAD

Overall Melbourne 74 wins Hawthorn 81 wins

At MCG Melbourne 35 wins Hawthorn 40 wins

Since 2000 Melbourne 5 wins Hawthorn 15 wins

The Coaches Neeld 0 wins Clarkson 1 win

MEDIA

TV Fox Footy 3 live at 3:00pm

RADIO TBA

THE BETTING

Melbourne $23.00 to win Hawthorn $1.00 to win

THE LAST TIME THEY MET

Hawthorn 15.25.115 defeated Melbourne 6.13.49 in Round 7, 2012 at the MCG

The Hawks managed double the scoring shots while Melbourne's performance, like most of those against this club in particular, was a blight on the game.

THE TEAMS

MELBOURNE

Backs Lynden Dunn James Frawley Dean Terlich

Half backs Jack Watts Cam Pedersen Colin Garland

Centreline Jack Trengove Michael Evans Matt Jones

Half forwards Luke Tapscott Jeremy Howe Rohan Bail

Forwards David Rodan Chris Dawes Aaron Davey

Followers Mark Jamar Jordie McKenzie Nathan Jones

Interchange Jack Fitzpatrick Dean Kent Joel Macdonald James Strauss

Emergencies Daniel Nicholson James Sellar Jake Spencer James Strauss

In Jack Fitzpatrick Dean Kent Joel Macdonald Cam Pedersen David Rodan James Strauss

Out Shannon Byrnes (wrist) Neville Jetta Max Gawn James Magner Daniel Nicholson

HAWTHORN

Backs Ben Stratton Brian Lake Brent Guerra

Half backs Josh Gibson Grant Birchall Sam Mitchell

Centreline Isaac Smith Luke Hodge Liam Shiels

Half forwards Brad Hill Lance Franklin Jordan Lewis

Forwards Paul Puopolo Jarryd Roughead Luke Breust

Followers David Hale Brad Sewell Shaun Burgoyne

Interchange Kyle Cheney Taylor Duryea Sam Grimley Jonathan Simpkin

Emergencies Max Bailey Michael Osborne Shane Savage

In Grant Birchall David Hale

Out Max Bailey Jack Gunston (calf)

Prediction: We will run Buddy into form, Jordan Lewis will get blisters from the leather, Luke Hodge to break the bones in his foot from kicking the ball too often and the scoreboard to have not enough zeros to match the stats for the Hawks unless they use the zeros from our side of the ledger!

Hawks by 15 goals.

[Cards13 9,117]

I still hate Vandenburg and Hawks for his/their weak, thug actions in the "line in the sand" game and that was against a team I also don't like.

Unfortunately I don't think much will change for us this weekend, even if we wanted to play unsocial footy we wouldn't get near them as we are to slow and their foot skills destroy us. It will all be frees and 50's for them. God I'm just thinking of how many Buddy will kick on the weekend, he has not had a huge game yet this year has he...

I'll be there with a bunch of Hawks mates hating it but showing some f ing support I guess.

[Gorgoroth 12,362]

The only whipping our club will do is if they visit a bondage club.

[PJ_12345 1,098]

I hate Hawthorn more than any club in the competition and by a long way. I dislike there supporters, in fact the only two times I have come close to belting someone at the footy was last year against Hawthorn when some low life got into the trident reserved area with his mates and got right on our faces and my brother who is a Hawthorn supporter after Jimmy ran across the mark.

The underlying issue I have with Hawthorn is that we the MFC are their Bi..hes, their whipping boys, they own us and have done for some time. We talk about '87, the '88 through the early 90's and especially over the past 9 years. 2004 they sucked winning 4 games beat us round 1, 2005 Hawthorn Sucked winning 5 matches, they beat us, 2006 one year we smashed them and this would be the last win over them, the loss round 1 2008 was smashing, they destroyed us and basically have done so every game since. 2011 we had them at half time to be absolutely smashed in the third quarter. This week if they decide to beat us by 120 points they will.

We move into Sunday, I will be their but unless our team can show some sort of fight It could be only for a very short time. The Biff is out of the game but we need to start something in the first quarter, all in just hopefully may fire us up and get them off there game. Hawthorn in 2008 played unsocial football, every chance they had to stick an elbow in your ribs and annoy the crap out of you the did, this is what we need to do. If it gets heated so be it a few fines, god knows our players haven't deserved their full match payments over the past 9 weeks anyway.

I heard Dermie talking about the Hawthorn/Essendon game I believe 2006 or 07, the frustration on the past players was the Hawthorn had become Esseondons Whipping boys, they still got beaten that game but the next they won and haven't lost to them since. It was the turning point for that young inexpereinced Group.

I feel the same way... I have always liked that footy is one of the only games in the world where you can sit next to someone who goes for the opposition, to, from and at the stadium without an issue - but sometimes there will always be some drunken low life who has to ruin it.

If you want a bit of passion on the field put Davey and Tappy in. So far they have been the only players I have seen that if one of their team mates is getting pushed around they will stand up.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

I could be really pedantic here and complain about the misuse of the term "whipping boy" but instead I'll just say that I agree 100% with the content of the post. There are a few teams out there that always smash us and it's getting old. Hawthorn, Carlton and North. Every bloody time they walk all over us. Time for the Demons to draw their "line in the sand" and go out and show the world that they are nobody's [censored]. It could never be better timed than this week, but I somehow don't think it's going to happen, and that just makes me sad.

[Dee1987 277]

As bad and I hate saying this I just hope Hawthorn beat us by a minimum of 80 points, I just want Neeld gone by Monday to end this madness at least for now. I don't want him coaching at the Pies game.

I hate Hawthorn with a passion and I always want the dees every week to have a red hot dip but I don't want them to take it easy on us because people feel sorry for us!

Neeld should just do the right thing and resign after this game so the club doesn't have to pay the guy out. He created a big part of this mess he should just do the club and himself a massive favour

[McQueen 17,864]

Fitzy! Go well son.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-05-30/fitzpatrick-set-to-play-against-hawks

[Allen Jakovich 516]

As bad and I hate saying this I just hope Hawthorn beat us by a minimum of 80 points, I just want Neeld gone by Monday to end this madness at least for now. I don't want him coaching at the Pies game.

I hate Hawthorn with a passion and I always want the dees every week to have a red hot dip but I don't want them to take it easy on us because people feel sorry for us!

Neeld should just do the right thing and resign after this game so the club doesn't have to pay the guy out. He created a big part of this mess he should just do the club and himself a massive favour

I want to see us lose by 30, then by 20 the following week against the Pies. Then beat St Kilda and the Dogs.

[Demon Jack 6,388]

Round 10 Melbourne team

B: Lynden Dunn, James Frawley, Dean Terlich

HB: Jack Watts, Cam Pedersen, Colin Garland

C: Jack Trengove, Michael Evans, Matt Jones

HF: Luke Tapscott, Jeremy Howe, Rohan Bail

F: David Rodan, Chris Dawes, Aaron Davey

FOLL: Mark Jamar, Jordie McKenzie, Nathan Jones

I/C (from): James Strauss, Daniel Nicholson, Joel Macdonald, James Sellar, Dean Kent, Jake Spencer, Jack Fitzpatrick

IN: David Rodan, Joel Macdonald, James Strauss, Jake Spencer, Jack Fitzpatrick, Cam Pedersen, Dean Kent

OUT: Shannon Byrnes (wrist), James Magner, Neville Jetta, Max Gawn

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

I see Fitz named on an extended Bench. That's not quite a "He will play as a forward this week" is it?

I'll take a bench of Nicholson, Fitzpatrick, Strauss and Kent (em) thanks.

Edited May 30, 2013 by RalphiusMaximus

[adsy 135]

Surprised Magner is out. Thought he'd done ok and his hard body would have been useful against the Hawks.

Edited May 30, 2013 by adsy

[Young Dee 1,303]

Round 10 Melbourne team

B: Lynden Dunn, James Frawley, Dean Terlich

HB: Jack Watts, Cam Pedersen, Colin Garland

C: Jack Trengove, Michael Evans, Matt Jones

HF: Luke Tapscott, Jeremy Howe, Rohan Bail

F: David Rodan, Chris Dawes, Aaron Davey

FOLL: Mark Jamar, Jordie McKenzie, Nathan Jones

I/C (from): James Strauss, Daniel Nicholson, Joel Macdonald, James Sellar, Dean Kent, Jake Spencer, Jack Fitzpatrick

IN: David Rodan, Joel Macdonald, James Strauss, Jake Spencer, Jack Fitzpatrick, Cam Pedersen, Dean Kent

OUT: Shannon Byrnes (wrist), James Magner, Neville Jetta, Max Gawn

Thats one pathetic interchange!

Best outcome is probably: Strauss, Fitzy, Kent and Pedersen

Edited May 30, 2013 by Young Dee

[Chook 14,616]

Jetta and Magner out? Jesus H!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Surely Jetta deserved another run ahead of Nicholson and Bail.

[Biffen 12,433]

dropping Jetta and Gawn is dumb.

Keeping Sellars is worse .

FFS.

Jamar will be thrashed by Hale ,as in the past .

Mitchell will get 500 kicks

We are completely F&%ked.

[Benson 254]

Magner out.... Next out should be Neeld, what a stupid omission.

[Grimes is Great 183]

How many players in that team would get a game in a top 8 Afl side??? One of the worst teams I have ever seen.maybe 8 players, 10 at absolute max!

Edited May 30, 2013 by Grimes is Great

[Guest]

Surely Jetta deserved another run ahead of Nicholson and Bail.

Disagree to an extent. Jetta has really not done much to prove his worth. Not that Nicholson really has, but he's quicker, better defensively and despite the fact he is not a very good user of the footy, at least he gets it.

In terms of Bail, I don't think he's even in the top 30 at our club, and that's really saying something. He's awful.

[Return to Glory 7,795]

So Jamar remains and Gawn is out? Staggered by that if its the case.

[Deemotivated 550]

Bwahahaha we just keep getting worse.....

[Moonshadow 16,411]

Don't understand the logic of selecting Howe at CHF and then playing him as the spare man at full back for a large chunk of the game. If that's Neeld's way of stemming the flood of goals, by dropping players back, then he'll need the whole team crowded around Hawthorn's goal square.

I'm hoping Fitzy gets a shot in the fwd line and bags 3 goals. Think he deserves 5-6 games to see what he can offer. Has done well at Casey for a while now.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

I don't think the line-up on paper is all that much to do with where they will start the game.

[Jaded No More 59,151]

Dear Mark Neeld,

Each week I question you a little more.

This week you've managed to somehow drop Gawn, who is a glimmer of hope in the dark hole you've created.

This week, I officially declare you delusional.

Also James Magner sends his love.

Regards,

Jaded.

[CHAMP 347]

Magner out.... Next out should be Neeld, what a stupid omission.

Yep, NFI.