The "Selective" Media

[Yokozuna 1,004]

Just finished watching "On the Couch" and was annoyed at Mike Sheehan (which is typical).

Gerard was asking about the possibility of Mick Malthouse coaching somewhere next year, to which Mike passionately replied "NO".

Gerard pushed the point and Mike said that Mick had said to many people he will not coach next year, so we need to take his word.

Why take his word and beleive him so hard, yet they continually refuse to take TS at his word.

On top of that, I was just as annoyed at Roosy for being upset that JT said that we have a good list and coaches should be happy to coach us next year. What do you expect him to say when questioned. "no, we are no good and I cant understand why any coach would want to come here"

I actually wonder why I watch all these shows every monday when I see this type of journalism.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Mike Sheahan has lambasted us year in year out, he probably hates the fact that we may get a great coach......

[Watt and Howe? 16]

You've only just realised the media is a selective, lying bunch of dogs? Wow.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

The football media are not football experts.

They are professional rumour-mongers and gossips who happen to love footy.

Even the ex-players, who often make a splash when they first enter the media (eg Lloyd), soon fall into line and blather on and on, on cue.

You can safely ignore everything the media say about JS, JT, MFC, AFL, anything really, as it makes no difference at all.

[e25 5]

As Mark Haysman said "there's more politics in football, than in politics."

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Just finished watching "On the Couch" and was annoyed at Mike Sheehan (which is typical).

Gerard was asking about the possibility of Mick Malthouse coaching somewhere next year, to which Mike passionately replied "NO".

Gerard pushed the point and Mike said that Mick had said to many people he will not coach next year, so we need to take his word.

Why take his word and beleive him so hard, yet they continually refuse to take TS at his word.

On top of that, I was just as annoyed at Roosy for being upset that JT said that we have a good list and coaches should be happy to coach us next year. What do you expect him to say when questioned. "no, we are no good and I cant understand why any coach would want to come here"

I actually wonder why I watch all these shows every monday when I see this type of journalism.

Every poster gives Mike Sheahan such a hard time, yet the bloke sitting next to him is a bigger spud. A self serving, arrogant, smarmy know all is the abrasive Paul Roos.'At the Swans, we do this, we do that, Longmire is this, blah, blah' Very, very annoying. I can't stand him and I can't believe some posters here respect him and want him as coach...no way!

[Ned 156]

The football media are not football experts.

They are professional rumour-mongers and gossips who happen to love footy.

Even the ex-players, who often make a splash when they first enter the media (eg Lloyd), soon fall into line and blather on and on, on cue.

You can safely ignore everything the media say about JS, JT, MFC, AFL, anything really, as it makes no difference at all.

Big difference between journalism and commentary. Mike S isn't much chop with his opinions but he often breaks stories - that's where he's good. The best example was Hird last year. All the ex-footy players said he wouldn't do it. All the professional journos said he would. They put the pieces together and were right. As to on the couch, Gerard has been very well informed in recent weeks and he really seemed to have something to push on Malthouse. It was a strange exchange in general.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Big difference between journalism and commentary. Mike S isn't much chop with his opinions but he often breaks stories - that's where he's good. The best example was Hird last year. All the ex-footy players said he wouldn't do it. All the professional journos said he would. They put the pieces together and were right. As to on the couch, Gerard has been very well informed in recent weeks and he really seemed to have something to push on Malthouse. It was a strange exchange in general.

Careful Ned ... it's sacrilege to offer such a balanced view on this forum.

[Fork 'em 6,984]

Every poster gives Mike Sheahan such a hard time, yet the bloke sitting next to him is a bigger spud. A self serving, arrogant, smarmy know all is the abrasive Paul Roos.'At the Swans, we do this, we do that, Longmire is this, blah, blah' Very, very annoying. I can't stand him and I can't believe some posters here respect him and want him as coach...no way!

Yep , I agree .

Dunno about bigger spud than Sheahan but spud never the less .

[baysidedave 246]

Just finished watching "On the Couch" and was annoyed at Mike Sheehan (which is typical).

Gerard was asking about the possibility of Mick Malthouse coaching somewhere next year, to which Mike passionately replied "NO".

Gerard pushed the point and Mike said that Mick had said to many people he will not coach next year, so we need to take his word.

Why take his word and beleive him so hard, yet they continually refuse to take TS at his word.

On top of that, I was just as annoyed at Roosy for being upset that JT said that we have a good list and coaches should be happy to coach us next year. What do you expect him to say when questioned. "no, we are no good and I cant understand why any coach would want to come here"

I actually wonder why I watch all these shows every monday when I see this type of journalism.

The fact is Malthouse is not going to coach next year, end of story.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,631]

Big difference between journalism and commentary. Mike S isn't much chop with his opinions but he often breaks stories - that's where he's good. The best example was Hird last year. All the ex-footy players said he wouldn't do it. All the professional journos said he would. They put the pieces together and were right. As to on the couch, Gerard has been very well informed in recent weeks and he really seemed to have something to push on Malthouse. It was a strange exchange in general.

Iagree Ned. Whilst I was watching I kept thinking why is Gerard pushing this after Sheahan was so catagoric that Malthouse would not coach. Me thinks Gerard knows something that he is not telling any of us.He also kept saying that Melbournes coaching position was filled so what did that mean.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

... the media is a selective, lying bunch of dogs? Wow.

A perfect description!

[Disco Demons 92]

As Mark Haysman said "there's more politics in football, than in politics."

your point reminded me of a quote I heard somewhere....Apparently there is approx 500 political journalist vs 1500 AFL journalist in this country...

therefore three times as much crap written

[The Chazz 4,077]

The fact is Malthouse is not going to coach next year, end of story.

Source?

[hardtack 10,547]

Source?

Uneducated guesses require no source :-)

[H_T 3,047]

Source?

Most likely from White Crow.

[hardtack 10,547]

Most likely from White Crow.

I would have thought Rosella might be more appropriate for a parrot fashioned comment ;-)

[DemonDave 1,089]

Gerard has been very well informed in recent weeks and he really seemed to have something to push on Malthouse. It was a strange exchange in general.

You would think that Gerard would be keeping a keen ear to all of the ongoing discussions his younger brother would be currently having with the club about our makeup next year..

[Harrisonrules 273]

Big difference between journalism and commentary. Mike S isn't much chop with his opinions but he often breaks stories - that's where he's good. The best example was Hird last year. All the ex-footy players said he wouldn't do it. All the professional journos said he would. They put the pieces together and were right. As to on the couch, Gerard has been very well informed in recent weeks and he really seemed to have something to push on Malthouse. It was a strange exchange in general.

Which is more important to you, a breaking story or an accurate story.

[beelzebub 23,378]

You would think that Gerard would be keeping a keen ear to all of the ongoing discussions his younger brother would be currently having with the club about our makeup next year..

Probably one of the more interesting aspects... the Greg-Gerard connection. Not sure what weight to give it, but its an interesting observation.

Im not really sure what anyone would expect Mickey Mouse to come out and say just now. He would surely be foucssed on picking up the two in a row. Hed happily spruik the company line in so far as it affects him and on he goes.

The moment the siren blasts to end the 2011 GF it might be a very different noise we hear from the Malthouse camp.

we werent supposed to get a carbon tax either.. things change

[Redleg 40,935]

Mike Sheahan has lambasted us year in year out, he probably hates the fact that we may get a great coach......

He was at the foundation dinner last week and I am sure he was there as a supporter.

[jayceebee31 761]

Careful Ned ... it's sacrilege to offer such a balanced view on this forum.

Too true.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

My money is on Malthouse at MFC next year...Just a Hunch.

But everytime i hear Malthouse speak now he is getting further away from the Mapies.

Last Sunday on SEN he was practically coaching the MFC whilst doing special comments.

Just a Hunch....

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Probably one of the more interesting aspects... the Greg-Gerard connection. Not sure what weight to give it, but its an interesting observation.

Im not really sure what anyone would expect Mickey Mouse to come out and say just now. He would surely be foucssed on picking up the two in a row. Hed happily spruik the company line in so far as it affects him and on he goes.

The moment the siren blasts to end the 2011 GF it might be a very different noise we hear from the Malthouse camp.

we werent supposed to get a carbon tax either.. things change

Well i was havin an ok night.... until. Thanks for that BB

[Ned 156]

Which is more important to you, a breaking story or an accurate story.

Accurate of course. But it's a very competitive business - particularly given newspapers are dying and journalists are under huge pressure to produce exclusives to lure readers - so I tend to be a bit sympathetic and exercise my best judgement when reading. Our journalism is a bit sloppy but generally a good read.