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Possibly doesn't need its own thread so to the overwatchers of this forum, feel free to merge.

To anyone who has info, what is going on?

I heard him interviewed during the week and he gave away nothing to suggest his omission was due to his wisdom teeth being pulled/lack of preparation. I had just assumed it was to do with that. He is a number 3 pick, highly talented and I can't understand why he's been overlooked again when any number of players could have been omitted for this week's game. 

 

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25 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Possibly doesn't need its own thread so to the overwatchers of this forum, feel free to merge.

To anyone who has info, what is going on?

I heard him interviewed during the week and he gave away nothing to suggest his omission was due to his wisdom teeth being pulled/lack of preparation. I had just assumed it was to do with that. He is a number 3 pick, highly talented and I can't understand why he's been overlooked again when any number of players could have been omitted for this week's game. 

 

You can never tell what is really going on with selection steve. Just look at  Tyson the last two weeks, the reasons given for his non selection last week have suddenly been ignored. Why is he being left out? who knows and you will never get the real reason. I have a feeling he is out of favour but that is just a gut feeling I have no solid evidence. Injury has ruined his stay so far at the MFC I  have little confidence that will change and as you say a no.3 pick !

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I have no inside info but his JLT was poor aside from a quality second half of JLT 2. We now have serious quality depth and he does not have runs on the board to be named without decent form or performance. I rate him highly but he needs to show more and I suspect if we hold him back to when he's cherry ripe and in hot form it will likely be the last time he is not a permanent first 22 player. 

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When I was picking my best 22 just prior to the season starting I had Brayshaw on my bench and Vince out.  If I had to put Vince in it would have been Brayshaw coming out. 

In other words he's close but around the 20-24 mark. 

I expect that to change over the next year or so and for him to become a staple in the team.

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1 minute ago, ProDee said:

When I was picking my best 22 just prior to the season starting I had Brayshaw on my bench and Vince out.  If I had to put Vince in it would have been Brayshaw coming out. 

In other words he's close but around the 20-24 mark. 

I expect that to change over the next year or so and for him to become a staple in the team.

Hope you are right we cannot afford another early pick to amount to zip.

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It’s not completely puzzling given the depth in the midfield brigade right now. 

However, not even getting listed as an emergency?

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2 minutes ago, McQueen said:

It’s not completely puzzling given the depth in the midfield brigade right now. 

However, not even getting listed as an emergency?

They may want him to get game time. None last week and And an emergency in Bris means no game again.

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12 minutes ago, old dee said:

They may want him to get game time. None last week and And an emergency in Bris means no game again.

Listed in the Casey praccie match.  Hope he kicks the door down andapplies red hot pressure on those in the squad.

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Are these players under consideration old/fit enough and experienced/hardened enough,  to go the whole 22 plus finals, at their peak?

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1 hour ago, old dee said:

They may want him to get game time. None last week and And an emergency in Bris means no game again.

Very good point.

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I recall some comments from Goodwin recently which suggested he rates Gus very, very highly as a player. I’m surprised he hasn’t been named this week, but not overly concerned. He’ll be back soon enough.

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He was very fumbly and ordinary on wings and flanks in AFLX and JLT1. When they threw him into the middle to play the inside mid role against the Saints he was very good.

He's an inside midfielder. I wish they'd play him there. Obviously Oliver and Viney are ahead of him in that role but I can't work out for the life of me why you'd play Maynard ahead of him. He's also a few years younger than Tyson and has more of a future than him. Jones and Lewis shouldn't have to play inside anymore with all these young bulls.

I see Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw with cameos from Petracca as being the 10 year midfield. I wish they'd play him because right now Brayshaw at 3 and Weideman at 9 look very ordinary picks. 

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Currently playing in the Casey practice match and dominating. Very strange he isn't in the team again this week. Hopefully he is straight in next week. He gets nothing out of playing at Casey, he's been a level above VFL from before he was drafted. It's a waste of his time, and a waste of the clubs time. He needs a consistent run at AFL level to develop and become the player we think he can. He's an obvious talent (pick 3), and is also quite flexible. Can play inside or outside mid, wing, half forward, half back. His skills are decent, he reads the play well, and he lays a good hard tackle. 

If we don't give him games this year, he'll walk and become a star at another club.

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16 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Currently playing in the Casey practice match and dominating. Very strange he isn't in the team again this week. Hopefully he is straight in next week. He gets nothing out of playing at Casey, he's been a level above VFL from before he was drafted. It's a waste of his time, and a waste of the clubs time. He needs a consistent run at AFL level to develop and become the player we think he can. He's an obvious talent (pick 3), and is also quite flexible. Can play inside or outside mid, wing, half forward, half back. His skills are decent, he reads the play well, and he lays a good hard tackle. 

If we don't give him games this year, he'll walk and become a star at another club.

based on what? Gut feel? You know he wants more opportunity? Just adlibbing?

While I don't disagree with the point you've made, it is a long season, there are at least 21 games left for Gus to make an impact. We all know we struggle to perform consistently over a whole season. Players not playing now isn't the end of the world, as some on here would like to make out.

I want to see Gus play in the ones, but if we are winning games (I know we aren't yet...) but let's just hold the dogs off a little longer hey???

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He is out of contract this year so if the club rates him they need to either give him games consistently or sign him up on a new contract.  Otherwise, there will be a few suitors out there talking to his manager.

We have re-contracted all the players who can be considered his peers so he is the only one still on the shelf.

I really rate him, he is much more than depth and would hate for him to look elsewhere.

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Brayshaw took a mark near me in the last quarter and fell a little heavily. He passed the ball to weed. Point is though he looked really p@#$%^d off.

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27 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Serious young fella - wonder if he enjoys his job?

Serious? You need to go back and have a look at his post draft interview with Tracc. He was the class clown there. A bit of competition for Gawny I thought at the time. But maybe he isn't enjoying things right now. He knows he's too good to be hanging out in the magoos, and has had a shocking run with the concussions. I'd be feeling a bit deflated too, but that will change the next time he is in the seniors and gets to sing the song.

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48 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Brayshaw took a mark near me in the last quarter and fell a little heavily. He passed the ball to weed. Point is though he looked really p@#$%^d off.

Which means what? You seem to be trying to insinuate something off one piece of play. 

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1 minute ago, Uncle Fester said:

Serious? You need to go back and have a look at his post draft interview with Tracc. He was the class clown there. A bit of competition for Gawny I thought at the time. But maybe he isn't enjoying things right now. He knows he's too good to be hanging out in the magoos, and has had a shocking run with the concussions. I'd be feeling a bit deflated too, but that will change the next time he is in the seniors and gets to sing the song.

And probably hoping for some faith from supporters. 

But its a bit hard to do, with where we're coming from, to feel that way.

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Being squeezed out on every line. Hasn't shown much at all at half-forward to justify a rotating spot there ahead of our HF medium fleet, a fair way down the order in the primary mid category, and at half back, where I think he will settle and is his most natural spot, we're looking for consistency in personnel and plugging the rotations with our seniors to make up for the already current immaturity of the group. Like ProDee, he was the first squeezed from my on-field 22 (not necessarily our best 22 players)  - followed by the other 'surprise' omissions from round 1. Also had an absolute shocker against Collingwood - so may need to rebuild trust.

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Hope we all get to see him soon.

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1 hour ago, Uncle Fester said:

Serious? You need to go back and have a look at his post draft interview with Tracc. He was the class clown there. A bit of competition for Gawny I thought at the time. But maybe he isn't enjoying things right now. He knows he's too good to be hanging out in the magoos, and has had a shocking run with the concussions. I'd be feeling a bit deflated too, but that will change the next time he is in the seniors and gets to sing the song.

Yep, dead serious

It's more his mental state

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33 minutes ago, old dee said:

He may not be as good as he thinks he is?

I think he needs to get a good run at it

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