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Farewell Jack Watts


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Posters who tell me 'X hasn't done anything for X amount of years' are not allowed to critique the terrible development standards we have had since time immemorial, the Bailey 'no defence needed' years, or the Neeld 'let's not go there' years.

Stay with some relevance, we began again as a club in 2014. 

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You still have to deal with the legacy though. Using Watts as an example, the club very well may have (let's face it we did) let him down in his development. Individual personalities contribute but they're not 100% to blame in this case. 

However that doesn't change the fact of where we are at now. Whether the club was at fault for failing to develop him properly is irrelevant to the player he is and where we are at now as a club. We're not gonna keep him around on the basis of feeling sorry for him because we helped ruin his career.

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Everyone is having a crack at Goody etc Roos said based on talent & not knowing what's happening with Watts behind the scenes etc he wouldn't trade him.. I guess if we got Lever from this trade are we complaining? Plenty of examples of clubs trading early picks to improve their lists!

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I would think Jack is gone. I say that as now it will be driven by his manager and Jack himself. Though his heart may be MELBOURNE its as though his gf just dumped him. The trust/bond is broken. Time to start over. He still has 5-6 years of footy ahead barring calamatous injury.

Will be an early trade in the Circus.

Be very surprised now if not the case.

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Goodwin just confirmed he's gone.

"We're happy for him to stay at Melbourne but we're also really comfortable for Jack to explore some options."

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3 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Goodwin just confirmed he's gone.

"We're happy for him to stay at Melbourne but we're also really comfortable for Jack to explore some options."

Yeah I saw that too on channel 7. He's as good as out the door!

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Just now, The Lobster Effect said:

Yeah I saw that too on channel 7. He's as good as out the door!

Just watched the interview and I agree with Port showing interest. Interesting what his trade value would be. 

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Goodwin just interviewed on pre-game coverage for the Grand Final on change 7. He was quite open when asked about trades.

When asked about Watts, said the club was happy for Jack to explore his options but was welcome back at the club if he didn't find what he was looking for. They then mentioned Watts was in Port Adelaide seeing their facilities and having some meetings and what he thought of that. Goodwin said he was happy for Jack to explore his options, as he's had 9 years at MFC and a lot of pressure to deal with. Said a different environment may be good for him.

Based off that interview, Watts is gone. 100% gone if the club get a decent offer.

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3 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Goodwin just interviewed on pre-game coverage for the Grand Final on change 7. He was quite open when asked about trades.

When asked about Watts, said the club was happy for Jack to explore his options but was welcome back at the club if he didn't find what he was looking for. They then mentioned Watts was in Port Adelaide seeing their facilities and having some meetings and what he thought of that. Goodwin said he was happy for Jack to explore his options, as he's had 9 years at MFC and a lot of pressure to deal with. Said a different environment may be good for him.

Based off that interview, Watts is gone. 100% gone if the club get a decent offer.

But the offer may not be good enough.

It's a long way from fruity board short Brighton to toothless, ugly Alberton.

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I still think there is a chance jw stays.

I'd say there has been some.honest feedback from the club and Jack. No harm in seeing what's out there. 

It will hopefully fire him up of he stays.... but i also hope interest from other clubs is strong  (in case he does leave) to get some value

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35 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Goodwin just confirmed he's gone.

"We're happy for him to stay at Melbourne but we're also really comfortable for Jack to explore some options."

there it is

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2 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Tim smith

Pedo

T Macdonald 

Just to name a few

None of those quite frankly though capable of goals are in the same league as JW in terms of accuracy  and clutch kicking.

The distance is not a problem for Bernie or Milkshake but no money on them front a set shot after the siren!!

All things aside. Watts is our best kick

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28 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

So is this a case of Watts approaching the FD and asking if he could do some window shopping?

Nah, it's been initiated by the club. Wattsy wants to stay.

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4 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Hannan

not sure if has the distance of Watts

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Just now, The Lobster Effect said:

Nah, it's been initiated by the club. Wattsy wants to stay.

My thoughts exactly, it was an attempt at humour. 

Most of us here like the spin " Jack to explore some options."

 

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12 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

None of those quite frankly though capable of goals are in the same league as JW in terms of accuracy  and clutch kicking.

The distance is not a problem for Bernie or Milkshake but no money on them front a set shot after the siren!!

All things aside. Watts is our best kick

Ill trust the FD decision mate.

And personally I'd take t Mac over watts everyday of the week as a kpp

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Worst case scenario is that the club has to pay a percentage of Jack's salary for the next 2 years and we get back a draft pick (or picks) that doesn't satisfy the clubs needs.   Also, if that offer comes from a club that Jack wishes to go to and he gets the clubs blessing from the club to go to that club,  the bidding war may become obsolete. 

Best case scenario is that Jack isn't too fussed where he ends up and there is a bidding war.  However, because we're effectively shopping him about,  the other clubs may not feel compelled to offer much. 

As is often the case, some sort of middle ground might be found ... also, we may need more currency in order to secure Lever and/or Gaff.  Just 1 more 2nd round pick might be needed to secure either or both players and Watts may well be the conduit for that to happen. 

Any of our other players who may have decent trade value could/would be regarded as 'keepers' ... or perhaps not.  We might get a decent offer from left field for 1 or 2 of those keepers - you just never know.  Back when we were a non-competitive outfit,  we had no such luxury.

 

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Never been close to a bnf in 9 years, let alone all Australian. Not in the leadership group. Rocks up in poor shape for pre-season training. Has been dropped to Casey by both Roos and Goodwin. Really poor comeback after his hamstring, especially in terms of intensity. A known party boy. 

Cant understand the criticism of Goodwin, McCartney and Jones for being sick of him. I only hope we get a decent trade.

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