POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 9

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Not that they're not entitled to be flat... but are demonlanders really surprised? We got up last week largely on the back of inspiration from Viney and Hoges. We're still kids. We'll win against teams we shouldn't beat. And learn from teams with better leadership.

Did anyone seriously EXPECT us to win this week? I don't expect us to win any week after Hawks and Freo.

[wizardinoz 2,047]

You could have put your house on Norf winning today, safest bet in the AFL. We lose every game after promising so much the week before. & should never start favourites again to win a game this year. Pathetic.

[NaughtyButNeitz 32]

The bulk of our players are aged between 21-24, so the time to live up to our often talked about potential, is now. We are no longer a young developing team, and to be honest, i'm sick of hearing that. Playing teams that we should beat, even with key injuries, the 'rub of the green' against us, and generally not playing our best footy, quality teams/clubs simply find a way to win those types of games. We've lost all of ours this year, we are a long way off.....

[dees189227 10,847]

All those cheap shots could have been stamped out if they gave oliver a free at the start of the day when he was punched. Nicholls is a very experienced ump. Did he have money on nth or something? 

[John Crow Batty 8,266]

Just now, wizardinoz said:

You could have put your house on Norf winning today, safest bet in the AFL. We lose every game after promising so much the week before. & should never start favourites again to win a game this year. Pathetic.

We will be favourites next week in our outback camels dung pile against an insipid GC. How can we lose?

[wizardinoz 2,047]

2 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

Did anyone seriously EXPECT us to win this week? I don't expect us to win any week after Hawks and Freo.

Well, the bookmakers certainly did.

[Dee-licious 1,854]

OMac getting hounded for nothing. He was far from the worst and he worked hard all day. He and Frost are getting better each game and there shouldn't be that many free north players that those boys are stuck between a rock and a hard place of what to do. 

 

The mids were beaten today with pressure. It was immense. We weren't ready at all. By the time we had space we were so in our heads we rushed and turned it over. 

 

Weid might not be ready but what else do we have? No other KPP has put their hand up. We are holding on until the big boys come back. 

[Dockett 32 1,213]

When you have been left vulnerable with a team of slow  midgets for the umpteenth time, result not really surprising. Particularly against North. Brown absolutely murders us every year!

We were lucky Danaher couldn't kick straight when we played Essendon. Both these blokes are over 200 cm.

So exactly who are our Gorilla minders? Who are our outside runners other than Hunt?

Recruiting staff and football dept recruiting strategy has been very  poor IMO.

Got  some mid selections right but we have far too many medium quality ( at best) trickless list cloggers.

 

 

[ding 5,126]

Insipid against middle range oppo after a great game away against the ladder leader. Is anything more Melbourne than that?

GC next week just reeks of another loss. I hate supporting this club for so many decades. Angry doesnt even begin to describe how i feel after tipping a win AGAIN, only to lose.

You make me sick MFC.

 

[billyblanks29 184]

Imagine a couple more years into Oliver, petracca and our other young players. Some drafting for a good key defender in this year's Draft is key. It's important for them to have wins like last week and lossses like this week to teach them lessons.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

Possibly most one sided umpiring of a game I have seen this year. 

Turnovers are a killer the dinky kick on the 45 constantly getting chopped off. 

We are not a finals side alas we will have to wait another year too many passengers. 

Garlett, Weid, Kent, Bugg, Omac, Wagner and Watts I'll add Frost to for that stupid turnover that should have flushed Jones on the chest. 

Edited May 21, 2017 by Diablo Deemon

[mrtwister 650]

Sorry everybody. I think this loss was my fault. 

I laughed out loud at Richmond yesterday. 

Bad karma. 

[Redleg 37,780]

40 minutes ago, Biffen said:

The bald umpire- number 15.

He's on my list.

He has been my worst for a few years.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

4 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

Well, the bookmakers certainly did.

Fair point. That does drive me nuts. We were pariahs before Crows game. Premiership threats after. Now we're also rans. Nothing's changed. We're young. Learning. Structural injuries. It's way simpler than anyone wants to believe.

The core is still there... But boy I'll be interested to see what we trade and draft in in the coming years. That'll play a huge part in how we go. We need a Burgoyne type.

[Chris 2,892]

A comment purely on the uMrs as I don't have anything nice to say about the players right now.

How Vince can gets clearly punched and not be a free is beyond me. What's the bet the North players gets a fine at worst. 

How Salem got the bloke high while being tackled without the ball is a joke.

Ben Brown is a protected Muppet. That holding free he got against Frost was one of the stupidest frees I have ever seen.

I counted at least 4 clear trips not paid, in fact one was paid as us holding the ball as we couldn't kick it while being tackled around the ankle. 

They got a goal from a throw plenty of times, double handed, one handed, off the ground, they were all there to be seen, none more obvious that in the last straight over their head and got a goal. 

I can't recall them being called for holding once, even though they dragged it in, dropped it, and threw it all day. 

Watts was hip and shouldered out of a marking contest by a player who didn't get close to contesting the mark, right in front of the ump, no free of course. 

These are just the ones off the top of my head. A complaint must be made!

I normally don't watch our games against North as they have been protected in our games for years. Only watched this as I hoped we would pummel the pretenders, good to see nothing has changed and we are still pretenders too. 

[loges 6,114]

The amount of times Watts refused to present for the long kick down the ground was terrible. Then when it was kicked to him he'd look around for someone else to fly

[Jaded No More 58,341]

Just now, Redleg said:

He has been my worst for a few years.

Pure cheat. No doubt about it. 

The saddest thing is, we never get these calls going our way. We outnumber North fans, and it's our home ground, and week in week out we lose the 50/50 calls. Today we weren't paid a dozen very obvious ones and got done for some of the most pathetic garbage I've witnessed. 

Sickening to watch and I bet we won't say a word. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, Scott would be going off!

I hope we give the AFL a severe medical report to ensure Zeibel and Higgins both get weeks! Couple of weak dogs!

[chook fowler 18,325]

We lack height and speed

[WattsUp2312 63]

Another golden chance of a win wasted. I'm really puzzled how we had no intensity in Q1 and Q3....they just didn't come out fired up. I didn't think our defence was that bad...it was the midfield switching off and being beaten that leads to missles coming in with ease.

perspectives:

- melksham in again (better than Wagner)

- Neal-bullen has to come in for Kent

- Weids (his positioning is dreadful)

- Oliver looked spent today....he was clumsy at times.

- Ben Kennedy for Bugg may be a shout

we really should be at least 6 or 7 wins.  Hogan and Gawn are massive losses.  We need to be 6-6 by time Gawn comes back to make finals.

I'm not convinced the team can do.

 

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

Playing 3 short with a 193 journeyman as a ruckman, and Weid and Omac being gifted AFL games to develop when they should be at Casey until 2019. Throw in a couple of soft cox in Watts and Kent who only like it on theIr terms, and you can hardly be surprised by today's result. 

The list management, to have 4 genuine ruckman on the list, and no 200+cm Forward / Ruck, is simply diabolical. What I'd give for a Ben Brown. 

[leave it to deever 15,832]

Bloody awful.........Our finals hopes snuffed out by a team that was never going to play them. Umps love Brown. If anyone still thinks we are not missing another tall frwd think again. Watts is back to his oh so very average self again. God forbid with 150 games under his belt he could have stood tall today and troubled the scoreboard.   Weids is still eons away. Bugg cant kick to save himself ....and Garlett when off is totally absent. Where are the players other than Oliver who can string 5 or 6 good games together? Why are there so many patchy players? Why dont they let each other know they are about to be tackled? Why are we caught napping every first quarter. What the F$%k do they do 20 mins b4 the game.......MEDITATE. 

 

Edited May 21, 2017 by leave it to deever

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

Vince doesn't get frees because the umpires know he's the boy that cried wolf.  Throws his head back and drops to the ground whenever someone touches him, so of course he's not going to get the ones he deserves. Get over it. We have bigger problems. 

[rjay 23,927]

2 minutes ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Vince doesn't get frees because the umpires know he's the boy that cried wolf.  Throws his head back and drops to the ground whenever someone touches him, so of course he's not going to get the ones he deserves. Get over it. We have bigger problems. 

Just saying....but it's never seemed to be a problem for Selwood.

[leave it to deever 15,832]

11 minutes ago, Redleg said:

He has been my worst for a few years.

That ump should be delisted ....hes still sulking about Gawn punchimng the ball away and the fact that he cant grow any hair.

[Wizza 170]

It's games like tonight that really highlight just how important Gawn is to our team. 

Goldstein was clearly the difference today, our mids are forced to work so much harder to win the ball when playing against a quality ruckman. 

I'm almost ready to call finals off for the year, but excited to know what the team is capable of when our key players are on the park.