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6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

and all things bananas, don't forget red

In WA, they are banana snobs. They think those small uninviting Carnarvon bananas are the only ones worth eating. 

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He knows about all the speculation. He hasn't signed. I'm 98% sure he's gone and as such have invested no emotional attachment to him.

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On 5/13/2016 at 9:34 AM, Roost It said:

He knows about all the speculation. He hasn't signed. I'm 98% sure he's gone and as such have invested no emotional attachment to him.

Clearly he has a bit decision to make, but i think you're forgetting there is an agreement that will soon be struck that could mean an extra hundred grand or more for him at the top end of the pay scale, we've clearly improved but can we hold it over the whole season?

I think Jesse will stay because we're on the rise and he's stucka round through the hard times, it seems crazy to go to a team who is about to begin a re-build. 

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At the end of 2017, Jupiter wil be on the other side of the solar system to earth, and Neptune will be at 90 degrees. Saturn is close and the influence will be strong. That means he's staying ... or maybe he's going.

Of course you could be talking out of Uranus.

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46 minutes ago, Roost It said:

He knows about all the speculation. He hasn't signed. 

Those two things have nothing to do with each other though, Roost.

The speculation isnt his fault.  If I was Jesse I wouldn't have signed yet either when my contract still has 18 months left to run. but I reckon he will extend within the next 6 weeks.  Maybe around Queens Birthday..

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22 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Freo may not be too confident of landing Hogan. McCarthy is a certainty to go there and they're chasing Jenkins with a 5 year deal.

They also chased Hooker. But they weren't on their own.

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I'm not sure young guys get homesick as much as people think.  But for 12-15 million he might miss Perth enough to go back and give up success with us.

The homesickness idea is irrelevant these days .

Freomight be stupid enough to blow their cap for the next decade.

im pretty sure we won't offer anywhere near it.

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As soon as the CBA is through I bet his manager will have him extend for another two years at a revised $

then everyone can get on with life.

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1 hour ago, mauriesy said:

At the end of 2017, Jupiter wil be on the other side of the solar system to earth, and Neptune will be at 90 degrees. Saturn is close and the influence will be strong. That means he's staying ... or maybe he's going.

Of course you could be talking out of Uranus.

Unfortunately our friend Jonathan Cainer, the world's foremost astrologer, is no longer with us, so we may never know.

But I did read in today's horoscope that a tall dark stranger will soon be leaving my life ... to a place with water ... and bridges ... for a swap with another tall dark stranger ... the number 8 is prominent ... plus a first rounder and a second rounder.

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16 hours ago, america de cali said:

Should Hogan be made to take some responsibility for inducing panic?

Please explain.  How does he take responsibility for speculation?  How would you make him take responsibility?  Will you go and stand over him and demand he do?

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

The bloke who went to GWS, got about 3 times the yearly salary we would have contemplated for him and a 6 year contract. That is nowhere near the difference it could be here, if money was the sole factor. Also at that time the whole club was crap. Now we are a far better club and team.That bloke seemed a bit aloof from his team mates, JH is one of the boys and has some great friends in the team.

There is also the little fact of an 8 hour return flight every second week for a bloke who has lost a year already with back issue.

As someone said above we also have great coffee.

 

 

And I very much doubt if The Great Gawnius Maximus would chuck all over Jesse either.

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a fellow traveller on the football superhighway reckons that we'd be silly to sign him on a long-term contract with six figures after a $1...

 

i completely disagree.

 

i don't think people realise how good this kid can be. he's played less than 30 games and he's doing things 100-game key forwards can't do.

 

i still think he'll be the best forward in the competition in five years, if not sooner, and that he's integral to our future premiership prospects.

 

i think the equation is simple too - the team performs on the field, why would he want to go anywhere? a lot of that comes back to jesse too; "if it is to be...it's up to me!".

 

i reckon he can deliver, big-time.

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My mother had a chook house in Linton and she told me the story about how one night she watching the front gate of the chook house and a fox came in through the back and

took the second best layer in the farmyard..... 

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2 hours ago, Roost It said:

He knows about all the speculation. He hasn't signed. I'm 98% sure he's gone and as such have invested no emotional attachment to him.

Hope the result lies in the 2%.

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I think the big thing that has people sucked in is the talks being on hold, i reckon the majority of AFL players wouldn't be super keen on discussing a long term extension with 2 years to run on an existing contract if they were in a side that had been at the bottom the entire time they were there.

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56 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Please explain.  How does he take responsibility for speculation?  How would you make him take responsibility?  Will you go and stand over him and demand he do?

 

Just being facetious in tone with the thread title. Lighten up.

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25 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

I think the big thing that has people sucked in is the talks being on hold, i reckon the majority of AFL players wouldn't be super keen on discussing a long term extension with 2 years to run on an existing contract if they were in a side that had been at the bottom the entire time they were there.

and to be clear, it's not so much the player who determines the tactics but the player's manager

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Roos has already publicly intimated where the club stands on this

"Hogan will be well paid, no matter which club he is at" (we are going to give him a one off offer, which will be based on what we think of him as a player in a team)

"You can't afford to spend a lot of money on one player if you want to build a team" (we will not be held to ransom or get in a bidding war)

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

and to be clear, it's not so much the player who determines the tactics but the player's manager

If the manager manages to convince Fremantle to cough up the sort of money being spoken about, and convinces Jesse to take it,  I don't think we would be interested in matching it

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3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Those two things have nothing to do with each other though, Roost.

The speculation isnt his fault.  If I was Jesse I wouldn't have signed yet either when my contract still has 18 months left to run. but I reckon he will extend within the next 6 weeks.  Maybe around Queens Birthday..

I don't. I think he'll extend once the CBA is announced.

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6 hours ago, willmoy said:

My mother had a chook house in Linton and she told me the story about how one night she watching the front gate of the chook house and a fox came in through the back and

took the second best layer in the farmyard..... 

Petracca to Collingwood?

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For what it's worth and to add to the 98%, I saw a private tweet from Jay Clark today that simply said "He's locked in"

I don't know how on the money Jay Clark usually is, but he seems pretty sure. 

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