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  1. Another flag for Jack Trengove on the weekend. Congratulations to Billy Stretch, too, on tasting premiership success with Glenelg. Two ex-Demons doing good things back home.
    31 points
  2. It's been a massive few days for former MFC skipper Jack Trengove. Won the Keith Sims OAM Medal (the Brownlow equivalent) in the Adelaide Football League on Thursday night. He was then BOG in a premiership victory as his Prince Alfred Old Collegians beat Payneham Norwood Union in the Div 1 Grand Final on the weekend. Said it's the most enjoyable season of football he's ever played. Congrats Trenners!
    13 points
  3. I think it's a bit of a myth that the likes of Larkey and Mitch Lewis are young. They were drafted in 2016 and Larkey is turning 26 next year. He is right in his prime in the next 3-4 years, then he will be nearly as old as Steven May who most are predicting to fall off a cliff soon. North possibly get a tilt at a flag right at the back end of this period. I think it just goes to show how long it takes some of these KPF to really find their feet in this league, and is also why JVR did such a great job this season. I feel like he has a great chance to be just as good as these guys at even earlier age.
    13 points
  4. I’m not suggesting anything here.. Luke Jackson purchased a house for his mum and then requested a trade back to WA and moved into said home with his mum. Just saw he took his mum to the Brownlow. Totally unrelated, but I might watch the original “psycho” movie after the Brownlow.
    10 points
  5. Lol this rumour was created by a fake Mitch Cleary account. 🤣 He signed a massive 6 year contract this year to 2029 and you believe a rumour that straight after he's signed this year he's already willing to talk to the dees? Do you realise how stupid this now looks ?
    10 points
  6. Do you know what. I don't care trac didn't win. I'm so proud of Jack Viney and his season.
    9 points
  7. As good as it would have been for Trac to win, you've gotta feel for the Bont. Seriously dudded twice
    8 points
  8. If Gulden was a Daicos, he would’ve got the 3 votes in the last round. Two goals and 42 touches is a Nick Daicos 3 vote game every day of the week.
    8 points
  9. lol yeah sorry, that was not a Brownlow year from Neale. And the whole room knows it.
    8 points
  10. 8 points
  11. 8 points
  12. Heard a few whispers but do not have a lot of faith in the veracity of said rumours. I do like that there is little or no leaks coming out of the club these days. We know that Deakin Smith is gone...... Dunstan retired..... Hibberd retired...... Jordon 99% out the door as a RFA.... Grundy 80% out the door traded to Sydney? but I think the club would not mind if a deal cannot be done and he stays for another season. For what it is worth unfounded whispers..... Harmes is looking at options but I have heard that there is a deal available for him if he stays. Chandler or Spargo may be on the table depending on the offer. Brown and Tmac I have heard that one of the two will retire with the other staying on the list. both have been mentioned as staying and both have been mentioned as retiring. No idea which way this will play out. Tomlinson will be getting more games next year as the third leg of the main defensive tall trio. As for drafting and trading...... More whispers. No real news on possible forwards. We are talking to a few players with regard to this year and trade period next year. seems hard to get a clear idea of who they might be and the chances of getting them. I did hear that we might be going a little left field for a possible solution in looking at a kpp, not necessarily a recognized forward, to cover the position should JVR of Petty go down. I heard that we will try for Reid but will not sell the house to get him. We have spent a good deal of time talking with him and his agent. I think we will be taking a longer term view of this situation. Not really a lot out there from what I have heard.
    8 points
  13. Still, Petracca has had 62 scoring shots to Bontempelli's 33. Over the last 2 years Petracca has had 50 more score involvements than the next best player, i.e. 410 to 360. Let that sink in. Fifty more score involvements than the player coming second over 2 seasons. He gets marked harshly, Petracca.
    8 points
  14. Collingwood: Played twice, won by 4, lost by 7 Brisbane: Played twice, lost by 11, won by 1 Port: Played once, lost by 4 Carlton: Played three times, won by 17, lost by 4, lost by 2 GWS: Played once, lost by 2 We played the top 5 sides 9 times and lost 6 of those games by less than 2 goal. Let's not pretend we are no good and a rabble. We had Tmac, Brown, Petty and Fritta injured for long periods. We had a second year key position forward show heaps. I don't think our forward line is the major issue and the concept that we "need to sell the farm" to get a gun KPF is flawed.
    8 points
  15. All sounds like a load of MaLarkey to me....
    8 points
  16. Professional sport is often a game of centimetres. Everything done or not done can have enormous ramifications on the result. Clarry is my favourite player so let me put that out there first. But I agree with Selwood and Cotchin, that what he did was just dumb. Getting Cripps off the ground, in that last quarter, could have seen us in a PF and maybe even a GF. It was not the time or place to be a nice guy. Semis are sudden death. Cripps, imo would not have done the same. His scragging and occasional hard physical acts, show a determination to win at all costs. Do we forgive guys who don’t go when it is their opportunity? Collingwood is in the GF. Look at how many of their players are prepared to hurt opponents. Maynard, Cox, Adams and Mihocek often snipe and even Pendles, yes Pendles will “innocently “ hurt players and even Nick Daicos gut punched a Giant and buried Daniels head first, which put him off the ground in the vital last few minutes. Winners are grinners. Ask our Coaches if they are happy with Clarry’s gesture. Ask his team mates. No, for me it was a dumb act, from not one of our brightest.
    8 points
  17. Neale was average. Nothing given to Dunkley or McLuggage etc Add neale to the accumulators like Mitchell, Priddis etc. Curnow had twice the year Neale did and wouldn’t even be in the top 25
    7 points
  18. 7 points
  19. Just [censored] off. When you think you can’t hate the AFL anymore you watch this waste of time
    7 points
  20. You know it might his night when he even polled a vote in our worst loss of the year at Gather Rd.
    7 points
  21. Bont robbed. That 3 for Neale for a 20 possie game, when Kelly 42 and Coniglio 38 no votes is pathetic. 2nd year in a row that 2 Dees the highest 2 from any club.
    6 points
  22. Does anyone expect a fair count? The umps cannot get the basic decisions right, how can they adjudge the best player..
    6 points
  23. Well done Jack Viney 7th in a Brownlow thoroughly deserved, and had a better last third of the year than trac. So umps got that right
    6 points
  24. Does anyone really think Neale had a Brownlow quality season? To me he was mostly average in a great side.
    6 points
  25. Umpires are useless at everything they do. It's the only explanation.
    6 points
  26. Luke Jackson has already left, his mum said it was past his bed time.
    6 points
  27. I would be happy for Bont to win it. He’s an out and out star and been carrying the Dogs for years.
    6 points
  28. 6 points
  29. I've long been a fan of Brownlow night, but it is increasingly becoming a tiresome experience to sit through. Things I'm not looking forward to tonight include: The boss's brother pretending he is best mates with all of the players: "Trac", "Bont", "Daics", "Crippa". The collective circle jerk performed by the media every time a member of the Daicos family appears or is mentioned. Any segment created for the sole purpose of giving air time to Rebecca Maddern or Abbey Holmes. Any "content" sponsored by the league's official betting partner. Any segments involving Auskickers. Any fan voted award that allows Richmond or Collingwood supporters to vote en masse for their favourite player. The telecast going well past 11pm when it should be done by 10:30pm. All I want to see are some highlights from each round, the votes then a summary every 6-7 rounds, and a quick chat to 3-4 players. Should be done in less than 2 hours, including the winner's speech. As for the winner, hard not to see Bontempelli winning given Daicos was sadly injured late in the year.
    6 points
  30. Months. It's pure fantasy. North already losing Mckay, they're not going to let Larkey walk away from a freshly signed 6 year contract even if he declared he wanted out. Any other options out there? Ben King gets talked about every year. What's his contract status? Free agent end of next year?
    6 points
  31. You're the only one banging on about some elite status tag. I believe we did leave a flag on the table this year, as we're just as good as any other team, and we've beaten both grand finalists. It was more down to our injuries that were basically all in the same zone of the ground. No other team dealt with this same problem this year. It's abundantly clear that Petty and Melksham have forward craft. They're both excellent finishers too. We lost both of them for our finals campaign and looked what happened. Inaccuracy cost us both games. I want us to add more class and finishing in the forward half to go with Petty, Kozzy, Fritta and McAdam, to make us better. I think if we get our forwardline personnel, better craft from our forwards, we'll be extremely difficult to beat, because unlike Collingwood, we don't overcommit numbers forward (which we did in Goodwin era #1), if anything, we allow extras against us at contest and play extras behind the ball. Of course, I expect most teams to change things a bit over the season. If Collingwood fall again this weekend, they'd have to examine their game style, and certainly their personnel, pretty heavily. I've written about this already, but what we need to look at is our 7th defender and seeing how we can exploit this for offensive purposes with an outnumber at ground level, rather than in the air. We have to back May, Lever (I'd like O'Sullivan) and our second tall defender to halve contests when 1v1, and go for the intercept when it's on the table. But otherwise, we want an outnumber at ground balls (ie playing three wingers and abandoning the Rivers offensive intercept role), so we can slingshot back to a less crowded forwardline. I expect Chaplin to replace Yze as the game day strategist and it's likely we'll have a new forward and midfield or defensive coach. So we're going to have new ideas challenging the status quo, but it's also incumbent on the senior coach and coaches to play to the strengths of the list. Where are our strengths? Backline personnel, defensive system, our midfield personnel's ability to win contests (win them outnumbered too). So we need to accept that our mids are great at the contest, but less precise with their disposal, which in the recent history of contested players, is pretty much the go. Martin and Dangerfield for example can absolutely butcher the ball by foot. As to our defensive strengths, I think we can sacrifice a little more defensively to give a little more offensively, but that involves something like using two of the three wingers as wing backs, enabling the likes of Bowey, Salem and McVee licence to take on plays higher up the ground, knowing cover is out the back for them. It means we don't necessarily give up our intercept game (which will still be 2024 footy), but that we can get outnumbers at defensive ground ball (which IMV is just about the most important facet of the modern game given the speed the game has been played at since 2021), and this ability to win ground ball, then feeds into our ability to score, and improves efficiency of ball movement by having our better ball users (Salem, Bowey and McVee) instigating our scoring chains from the middle of the ground, and ideally through the corridor.
    6 points
  32. The earth is flat. the surface of the earth is 70% water. None of it is carbonated. Therefore the earth is flat. I’ll see myself out…
    6 points
  33. Fisher is locked in for North. They have offered him 5 years at stupid money . Fisher is soft as butter and hopefully we don’t go anywhere near him.
    6 points
  34. Hearing Zac Fisher might be in the radar after some ‘player recommendation’ — I can see it from a pace perspective, would def add some outside pace to our depth pool. Key Fwd wise, still not getting any names whatsoever bandied about apart from some surmising that the obvious— but still more dream-like — candidates are Hawkins, Walker, Larkey (24-25, — Whilst other names of muted interest are Jack Hayes, Fullarton, Day, Chol, Coleman-Jones, Reid among others prev mentioned. Ruck wise it seems we’ll likely go to VFL, but why we’re not in Goldstein sweepstakes beats me, esp if he’s interested in playing behind Draper for “Success” — Got to be worth a chat surely. Love the club at least asking question if Larkey, just wish it had of come 3m earlier! Stay Tuned…
    6 points
  35. I’m not too sure of the ins and outs or the finer details but apparently there is a deal getting done. We will hear something on it when we hear it.
    6 points
  36. How could I know if the stat is bad ... it never gets used! You referenced the only time I've seen it where it was still shown out of context. I am someone who cares about the data and I try to use it whenever I can to tell a story about whatever it is I'm posting about. I try to use good sources and I don't know if this is a good source because there's no context around it with which to judge it. You said that we have 3 of the 10 worst kicks int he AFL. It's up to you to prove that this is the case and I don't know if the stat that you provided does that. There are several stats that could indicate poor disposal or poor decision making. For instance, you could talk about average turnovers as being a stat for this, which has Jack Viney as the 2nd worst in the league and Clayton Oliver as the 4th worst. That make sense to you ..... but the context is that Tim Kelly was the worst and Errol Gulden was 3rd worst, so it doesn't really pass the sniff test as a measure. Or you could use Disposal Efficiency %, which would make sense. However looking at the context for this data shows that all those with the lowest DE% are forwards and all of the highest are defenders (Melksham 3rd worst 50.5% vs Dougal Howard 4th best 88.8%), so that's clearly not a good measure as it's biased against forwards and towards defenders. The stats that you use to measure something are important and each of them tells a different story. The AFL Kick Ratings stat is seldom used or reported upon, and when it is it done so without context, which makes it very difficult to trust as a proper measure. If we had more information about it and more data from it then perhaps it could mean something but it's difficult to trust as it is.
    5 points
  37. It isn't that, it's kick rating which is a Champion Data stat which I've barely seen anyone use at all. It's theoretically the retention of the ball weighted on the difficulty of the kick. The fact that there are 3 star players from the same part of the field from the same team is pretty suspicious, and probably indicates a bias that makes the stat pretty inaccurate. The fact that I haven't seen a list of the top 5, 10 or whatever on this stat really does make it appear that the stat isn't very good. The only real time I've seen it used this year was an article after round 4, where the worst kick in the league (according to AFL Kick Rating) was Hugh McCluggage.
    5 points
  38. Just as an aside, if a fit Larkey played for us in these finals, he would be getting a premiership medallion.
    5 points
  39. The interesting thing with Black & White is the flair has gone from their game. The risk takers are now ultra defensive and scared to take on the corridor. 8.10 & 9.6 in their last 2 games...and very lucky to get a result in both. GWS were ripped off by the umpiring on Friday night, it was sad to watch as the free flowing C/wood forced pile on after pile on aided by umpires afraid to make a decision.
    5 points
  40. There is absolutely no excuse for not subbing a fresh Schache for Tom Mac, who was totally useless, at the very least, well into the last quarter. Weitering was groggy and Schache could have run him around, or found space to do something, which could have won us the game. At the very least he could have gone back into defence in the last few minutes and maybe spoiled the Acres mark. A tap, a handball, a kick off the ground, a mark a score, anything would have been more than Tom’s zero contribution in the last quarter.
    5 points
  41. Ah young 'Jimmy', your profiling is way off the mark. I believe the problem is a little more nuanced than what you say. The finishing, kicking on goal...yes, we miss some easy shots & our focus is drawn to this because of the scoreboard. Our opponents also miss easy shots, look at Elliot for instance in the game against C/wood. Our lopsided scoreboard is a function of the game plan which in turn means where we are taking shots from (poor positions) & the congestion in our forward half (taking unrealistic shots & shots under pressure). Injury has been a big factor in how we've had to play, adjustment has been made through the season and as soon as we think we have found an answer. particularly forward then injury thwarts it. I think our biggest issue is a lack of quality forwards, it's why we play the way we play. To think that Clarry, Trac & Gus only know how to bomb the ball forward is just dumb thinking, it's done under instruction. You can argue that the instruction is wrong but I would put to you when we had a fit target (Petty) in the forward half we didn't bomb the ball nearly as much. We opened our game out a bit more because we could score but it also cost us going the other way. When we didn't have this option we couldn't afford to open the game up as we would have been scored against more heavily but without the ability to hit the scoreboard ourselves. Could we do with quality decision makers, yes every club can do with that but I think it's quality forwards that we lack and the flow on from that is how we play the game. I've thought all season we didn't have the list to win it, our pop gun attack just didn't stack up but for all that we should have finished top 2 bar the Carlton cheating & AFL incompetence. Then we were so close in both finals. A fit Petty and maybe we could have stolen it this year. Fix the forward half, adjust the game plan revitalise the list this draft/trade period and we're off and running again. So no, I've never believed the hype of this list being great. We're a good team, with some great players. Not a great team...
    5 points
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