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They need all players to get over to Gawns house for a rona' party to get it prior to the season, an ideal competitive advantage

KDA sorry but you have not looked at our last 6 Finals. Jack Viney has been in our top 3/5 in all games except the 2018 Prelim Final where hardly any one played well. I also suggest you look at the GF again and see who got the ball out numerous times for our outside mids to break open the game and score multiple goals. Jack played one of his best games ever and has changed his role for the teams benefit. He looks to pass the ball on first grab he gets and no longer takes on the opposition and gets caught with the ball. I believe Dunstan will be valuable and get games as part of our midfield mix but form and injury will decide over the season who plays in the AFL team. Sparrow especially but Harmes and Jordan also deserve their spots if they are in form and fit early days 2022. But Dunstan is a good player who will be valuable in 2022 at various stages, But to say he will work better than Viney with our rucks and mids after the Finals is not correct as their chemistry was as good as it gets from Round 20.

Realised I hadn’t watched the GF all year… poured a pint of home brew Czech Dark lager and away we go…😃

Be very careful if you Google "How to change your ringtone". I ended up on a website that sells a product to bleach an unmentionable part of my anatomy.

My ringtone is just Bang Bang Bang Bang

Happy New Year, Demonlanders! In celebration, here's my quiz about the 2021 Grand Final. It's a long one at 57 questions, so make sure you're in the zone when you have a go. I've given the maximum allowable time of 20 minutes. Enjoy! https://www.sporcle.com/games/dees_in_october/2021-grand-final-quiz---demons-premiership

Anyone following the NBA will see that this would be a huuuge advantage if all our players got it prior to the season. Difficult with the various strains i guess.

Better now than during the season

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The more I watch the replay, the more I appreciate Fritta's roving abilities and uncanny goal sense. He has light speed reflexes and to be fair it was probably good Hannan moved on and Melksham didnt get a guernsey . Frittas skills are in a very elite class.

Add to this list The Western Bulldogs, still in a TON of pain and hurt😂

Viney is severely underrated on here which is suprising considering his finals series.

I think Caleb Daniel is a very good smart player............... However, watch Jake Bowey overtake him and become much, much better!

Hereeeeeeeeeeeee's Kozzy!

Chiefs, Buccs, Eagles. Thanks @Macca Wanted to pick the Browns, but the Browns.

Thanks Dees in October. I think I will stop doing these. My confidence is taking a battering. One question that was easy was Lyon interviewing someone who said they would have kicked nine. I didnt see who it was but even without the suggested names I would have said Allen Jakovich. And he probably would have. He was a remarkable forward. But looking at our forward line now its still pretty exciting. Bbb prior to us had one bad year and THREE years of being one of the best forwards in the land. In a very average team as well. Tmac is a mixed bag. But when he does fire, he is a defender' s nightmare and he is exceptionally strong. Kozzie and Spargo will keep improving. Dogga likewise. Fritta is the interesting one. If he continues improving on his current trajectory he will bag over sixty next year. So we had ( still do) a great midfield. Then we built the best backline. And now we seem to have created a very potent forward line. It took a while for it to sort itself out but it really gelled coming into the finals. I'm not sure which forward to be the most excited by. I think maybe Kozzie. I do think this year will see us making over 100 points a game on a fairly frequent basis.

I'm making an early call on Jonesy's son. On the Sunday GF replay he was running along the G in front of me and Viney ran up behind him and barrelled him into the ground. I'm guessing Viney used to cop that as a kid too.

Great job making the quiz! It was lots of fun. “Only” got 67% and had watched the replay in NYE, so I guess I’m gonna have to watch it again a few more times 😉 P.S thanks for not quizzing about anything in the 2nd quarter!

I'm not sure that it is strictly on topic, but here is a list of insults that Dr Smith directed to the robot on Lost in Space ... https://irwinallen.fandom.com/wiki/Dr._Smith's_Insults Perhaps they could be adapted for use towards some of the AFL commentators? And yes ... I've probably lost the plot.

It's Dunstan vs Sparrow vs Jordon for one spot in the 22 I would suspect if it's a lineball call, the coaching staff will always go with one of the youngsters who currently have unknown upside I think the football department would view Dunstan as Viney's back up for when he gets injured again personally

Utter rubbish look at our last 6 Finals !!!

To be fair he runs rings around Vanders.

Great article that sums up the situation really well. https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2022/2021/10/12/where-the-dees-get-even-better-in-2022/ Quote “In successful teams, there is always someone knocking on the door, and with Dunstan’s move from St Kilda to the premiers, he has made no bones about the fact that he wants to prove himself and make his way into this rotation. It puts the others on notice – step it up, or step out of the way.” ”Whilst a lot of the attention when talking about the Dees goes on the Petracca/Oliver combination, and rightfully so, however, the designated roles and the discipline to adhere to their allocated roles are an absolute strength of this Melbourne team that simply does not get the attention it deserves.”

Year of extreme emotions to say the least, thank god the Dees won otherwise I would have literally nothing positive to remember about 2021.

It's weird, the more I hear about it the more I just cannot believe we actually did it. On abc grandstand they just replayed highlights and I got all excited again. We actually did it.

I think there might be lots of GF births in late June this year. Bang bang bang!

He is definitely good. Based on 2021 he is well ahead of both Sparrow and JJ. That being said we don’t yet know what the ceiling is for those two. His 11 Brownlow votes puts him well in front of even Viney if you rate that as a measure. i am predicting we will use most of our list this year and where fitness and injuries were the measure of success for good teams in past years, depth will be the measure in 2022. COVID infections are going to hit every team hard, players will not be isolating and infection numbers will be closer to European levels than 2021 Australian levels. It is going to make for a very different looking season. I’m guessing it is going to favour team’s like the bulldogs who are constantly pushing versatility (often, in my opinion, to the detriment of themselves). I suspect it will also favour team’s with good depth and players who are well drilled to swing into a role. i am also predicting that taking the whole list to Perth and spending all that time together is going to look like genius in 2022.

The second-year goal tallies for some of the best small forwards in recent years: Stephen Milne: 50 Kysaiah Pickett: 40 Tom Papley: 30 Liam Ryan (mature recruit): 30 Cyril Rioli: 21 Eddie Betts: 20 Toby Greene: 4 What a special talent we have. Can't wait to see what this man can produce over a decade-long career in the red+blue.

To make sure everything is above board we'd like ASADA to be involved.

Someone doesn't know how to spell Jordon or Schache...! But otherwise nice job.

Viney form ok is pretty much a walk up start for selection. Dunstan will have to earn his spot and he would know that. There may well be the odd injury or form issues that create a gap or 2.

Don't really think VDB had any choice when push came to shove.

My life changed from this moment. The Viney crash actually.

Agree. Go back 12 months and everyone was saying T Mac is finished and Weid is da man. I think there's a lesson in that. I'm not totally confident that he'll do it (I don't think anyone can be), but I do think it's important for the medium term depth of the side that Weid makes it in some capasity. Our team ethos and game style means he doesn't nessacerilly have to be the superstar, but if he can be a solid contributor in the years between BBB and T Mac dropping off and/or retiring, while we develop other young KPFs, then I think that is important. Sure we could try to aquire a ready made mature KPF from elsewhere, but there are no gaurentees there either. I think BBB would be a great player for Weid to be an understudy to. Lead up forward that can also crumb and do smart stuff and kick goals once the ball hits the deck. The general demeanor of BBB is also such that I think he'll also be a great mentor and developer of our next batch of forwards.

More upside than Viney, the others are kids in football terms.

Jack Dyer retired from calling footy a few years before Rigoni first played. He did, however, manage to butcher many names and trotted out more than a few malapropisms.

Not to mention players possible missing for a week with Covid. This could be the year where a deep list becomes very important and we have one.

Good if we could get Neville Jetta's brother and his father to play like we did against Carlton :)

The experience I had with with dad and uncle was enough in itself. After the first quarter the smile on my uncles face and my dad saying things like “last time we were in front in quarter time in a grand final, we won.” Second quarter my dad leaving for half time show, my uncle saying “we had them, we were so close…” Third quarter from my uncle declaring it over and my dad being on misery to the turnabout. Dad saying, he’d be very happy going in with a one goal lead, to the burst. They both erupted. It’s never seen them like that in a long time. Fourth quarter, both men shedding tears. Neither are much for hugging men (I’m the only one who still gets hugs, my brothers don’t) they actually hugged each other. It was extraordinary. Being able to experience that moment with them is something I’ll never forget. Knowing my uncle doesn’t have much time left, it’s a family memory we'll always treasure.

Seeing the cup finally engraved makes it feel more real.

Not the grand final but it's amazing that between 2007 and 2020 we beat Geelong twice. In 2021 we beat Geelong 3 times.

It really happened. Name now engraved on the cup.

Went to bed last night. Compiled my list of important things (which is many) I have to get done this week Woke up this Monday morning, sprang out of bed, showered, dressed. Grabbed my list. Checked it. Put it back down. Walked to the TV. Put on replay. 11 minutes and 31 seconds remaining in first quarter! I'll get to my 'to do' list later. Nothing is as important as watching this for an 8th time.

Maybe Liam Ryan wants to come and play with Kozzie. Third rounder might do the trick.

I’d cut him some slack. He’s a young man letting his hair down. I hate the way footy fans expect players to act like they’re at a funeral after they lose a game. Just because we’re emotionally unbalanced and tie our complete mental well-being to our footy team, doesn’t mean the players should. And this was obviously some time afterwards, seeing as it is in a night club. Fair dinkum, who cares.

Was looking at some stats and noticed Sparrow only had 66% game time. He played a blinder. Really like his hardness and he kicks like a mule.

Words can't explain how much this means to me. All the pain, all the heartache, the disappointment we've had to endure. The love-hate relationship I've had with this club as a supporter for 30+ years and as a member for the last 15 years, has caused me so much more grief than joy. At our lowest I would often ask myself why I put myself through this. Why do I care so much? Will this ever be rewarding? Well, all of that was worth it... for this moment. Although bittersweet in that we weren't able to be at the game or even watch it and celebrate the win with friends, this game is still one of the happiest moments in my life. I still can't believe it's happened and I've watched the replay or at least part of it every day since. It's been almost a decade since I posted on here and probably over 10 years since I was a regular. Still an occasional lurker from time to time and as passionate as ever about the Dees, but family and work-life balance meant I no longer had time and fell out of the habit of posting. And I lost a bit of interest in the team during the Neeld years to be completely honest! It's been refreshing this year to come on this forum and see the positivity and hope return to the supporters. For so many years this forum was a hotbed of negativity and I love reading thru all the posts recently and seeing just how happy this has made all of us. We are Premiers! The MFC... Premiers!! Still delirious ❤💙🏆