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Second year in a row North have screwed us (with afl help this time).

Last year we were eyeing off Port’s pick 9 in a Jackson trade that would’ve had us in line to get up further to get Humphrey. North messed that up when JHF became available.

This year we want pick 11 but it’s hard to see how we beat North for it, they just have so much more to offer. And we’re surely no chance of getting all the way to pick 1.

 

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Just now, mo64 said:

The compo is not the hard to understand. If you're a [censored] team down the bottom, you'll get higher compo. Hawks got SFA for Buddy. That's how it works.

It’s hard to understand when the compo for a player who is borderline AFL quality is pick 3. 

If McKay was contracted who would offer North pick 3 for him? He would hardly be worth a second rounder given his output. 
If his surname wasn’t McKay he would probably be a delisted free agent by now. 

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11 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

does anyone in their right mind thing Essendon would have traded a top-3 pick to get McKay? Or even their current top 8?

Yes, Dodoro is a great guy to deal with. Very fair and makes trading easy

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Just now, Jaded No More said:

Tell me the AFL would bend over backwards for North in this matter if Clarkson wasn’t their coach. Laughable. 

Look at the excuses they gave for turning us down in 13 and 14.

In fact in 14 we were right in line with North, and the afl said, you’re getting free agent compo, you’ve got young talent (we had stuff all), you’ve traded for veterans (which actually hurt our future) and you’ve got Roos and Goodwin coming.

Would be so easy for the afl to say ‘you’ve got Clarko, deal with it’.

The response is - ‘you’ve got Clarko…let’s help him so he doesn’t quit mid season again’

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12 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

You do understand that the way we play has a significant bearing on the ability to score goals? At the start of the year we were attacking heavily through the corridor.

The club collects GPS data on every player. They know who is running hard. The rewards as a fwd can be tenuous. You can do 20 sprint leads and the ball is not kicked to you for example

It is probably the hardest position on the ground to play consistently. Its why many don't succeed

Very aware it's one of, if not the toughest positions to play.

Anyway we are poles apart on Chandler's second half performance it seems.

Statistically his average player rating in the back half (Rnds 13 - 24 vs Rnds 1 - 12) was down 17%.

Can he correct and put in a more consistent season in 24?  I'm sure he has the potential but that is his challenge imv.  

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29 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

James Frawley (aged 26) compo for FA to move to Hawks got us Angus Brayshaw. 👏👏👏

Frawley had been an All Australian, three times in All Australian squad, twice represented Australia in international rules, twice in top 5 in MFC B&F including runner in 2010. 
 

Mckay is not within a country mile of the player Frawley is/was at the same stage. 
 

AFL handouts to Kangas is transparent bias and favouritism to a high degree. 

id have the following in front of Mckay as a KPD.

Moore

Weitering

SDK

Taylor

Andrews

Aliir

Wilkie

May

McGoverm

Barrass

Pearce

Cox

Collins

McCartin

Petty

Lever

Balata

Jones

Doedee

Payne

 

 

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We all know the system isn't fair, so no point worrying about it as it isn't changing anytime soon.

We can't complain as we got the exact same thing for Frawley at a similar time that the Hawks got pick 19 for Buddy and were punished for being a good side.

The only way to end this is to get rid of compensation for free agents entirely.

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6 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

We all know the system isn't fair, so no point worrying about it as it isn't changing anytime soon.

We can't complain as we got the exact same thing for Frawley at a similar time that the Hawks got pick 19 for Buddy and were punished for being a good side.

The only way to end this is to get rid of compensation for free agents entirely.

If I hear one more person compare Frawley to McKay I will lose my mind. 
 

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3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

We all know the system isn't fair, so no point worrying about it as it isn't changing anytime soon.

We can't complain as we got the exact same thing for Frawley at a similar time that the Hawks got pick 19 for Buddy and were punished for being a good side.

The only way to end this is to get rid of compensation for free agents entirely.

There’s a thousand ways to change it but the first step is just removing top 10 picks and the compo being after a clubs pick and make it mid round and end of round.

If we got pick 11 for Frawley we would’ve taken Lever and been fine. 

Review the entire system to change it drastically but announce right now it’s never going to be top 10 again. 

And fire the idiots who can’t work out how to index wages to the new CBA.

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9 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

We all know the system isn't fair, so no point worrying about it as it isn't changing anytime soon.

We can't complain as we got the exact same thing for Frawley at a similar time that the Hawks got pick 19 for Buddy and were punished for being a good side.

The only way to end this is to get rid of compensation for free agents entirely.

I don't think anyone disputed Frawley was band 1.

McKay on the other hand.....

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3 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I don't think anyone disputed Frawley was band 1.

McKay on the other hand.....

I believe Frawley’s wage was borderline or even below tier 1, the afl helped us out. But he took 10-20% less to join the Hawks super team. Had he taken other offers he’d have cleared it easily. 

McKay is joining a perennially bad team and not making what anyone could call a premium wage these days. Plus North have been helped x 4 first rounders. It’s either incompetence or deliberate. With the afl it’s hard to know which

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Is it fair to say that this in on Essendon for going hard for a bang average player as if he would be their saviour?

Just don't trade for him let him stay at North, honestly AFL is very amateur in how they handle FA and the whole trade process.

Can't have a more manufactured system! I guess it's all about entertainment and drama not so much about the Sport.

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26 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@BangBnagBang agree. 18th ranked AFL full back and he’s worth pick 3. Not mid range 1st round or end of 1st round (perhaps reasonable) but pick 3. Ffs. 

It's all about help from the AFL.

North will get Reid and another top player and WC will get Curtin and an extra couple of top players.

AFL will say they did it themselves by pick swapping.

No one is fooled.

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Given the amount of talent the Roos are bringing in, especially in the midfield I hope we are getting in the ear of someone like Will Phillips.

Hasn't quite come on early in his career and if they have so many high draft picks trying to get a game he may look to move.

Good mates with Bailey Laurie as well I think.

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4 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Given the amount of talent the Roos are bringing in, especially in the midfield I hope we are getting in the ear of someone like Will Phillips.

Hasn't quite come on early in his career and if they have so many high draft picks trying to get a game he may look to move.

Good mates with Bailey Laurie as well I think.

Aim higher. We poach Sheezel or Harley Reid in 1-2 years time. Let’s pick the carcass of that loser club so those talented kids careers aren’t wasted.

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10 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Aim higher. We poach Sheezel or Harley Reid in 1-2 years time. Let’s pick the carcass of that loser club so those talented kids careers aren’t wasted.

I wouldn't be surprised if they played finals in 2025. AFL seems to have a way to get things done when there is a desire to do it. They have some talent now and will load up again this year. There's no doubt they are on an upwards trajectory. 

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13 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they played finals in 2025. AFL seems to have a way to get things done when there is a desire to do it. They have some talent now and will load up again this year. There's no doubt they are on an upwards trajectory. 

Anything less than a premiership in 3-5 years must be deemed an utter failure. 

They’ll now have more first rounders on their list than even Gold Coast! It’s mind boggling and the rest of the clubs should complain to the AFL and/or actively target them to even out the competition again.

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6 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Anything less than a premiership in 3-5 years must be deemed an utter failure. 

They’ll now have more first rounders on their list than even Gold Coast! It’s mind boggling and the rest of the clubs should complain to the AFL and/or actively target them to even out the competition again.

Whether they like it or not, are successful or not, Norf will help build the Tasmania team. They will have too much talent to keep on their books and wont have salary cap concessions like GWS and GCS were afforded with the living-away-from-home allowance.  

They have a short window to make it work before they have to start renewing a crop of players as soon as 3-4 years time at which point there will be a garage sale. That is if they can get out of the bottom 4 - stay there for another 1-2 years, players will start to leave the club. With their defence essentially non-existent, 2024 is going to be similar to this year, so i expect more pain. They will win more games against the bottom 4-6 teams, but cant see them really challenging for top 8 until at least 2026. 

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14 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Anything less than a premiership in 3-5 years must be deemed an utter failure. 

They’ll now have more first rounders on their list than even Gold Coast! It’s mind boggling and the rest of the clubs should complain to the AFL and/or actively target them to even out the competition again.

Yes they will have around 14 1st round picks if they add/hold the current selections (11 currently after removing Cunnington and Ziebell). That’s a huge group of talent to develop over the next 2-3 years.  AFL might have to say sorry to other clubs in a few years. They’re good at apologizing 🤯🤯🤯

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