Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

Who knows? A lot of water will flow under the La Nina bridge before then. There would be 15 contenders at the moment, plus those who pop up, as they must for ongoing success.

  • Like 1
Posted
5 minutes ago, Billy said:

1. Oliver

2. Petracca 

3. Gawn

4. Salem

5. Lever

6. Fritsch 

7. May

8. Viney

9. Brown 

10. Jackson

 

You got it Right 🤩😇😜

  • Like 2

Posted

gawn

petracca

oliver

may

lever

brown

fritsch

salem

jackson

viney

  • Like 1
Posted (edited)

I can’t disagree with all above but just how good is our list with Langdon, Picket, ANB, Brayshaw, Spargo, Rivers, Bowey, Sparrow, Jordon, TMac, Hunt, Hibberd, Harmes & Petty as our second tier players and they all have the potential for further improvement in 2022. !!

Edited by DeeZone
Added Hunt
  • Like 1

Posted

Our bottom 10 whoever they maybe are the most important 10 players.

  • Like 4

Posted (edited)

I find these type of lists a bit contrary to our modus operandi of last year.

The performance of our so called role players  (Petty, ANB, Spargo, Hibberd, Brayshaw, TMac, Jordon, Sparrow, Viney on occasions, Harmes, Rivers and Sparrow) are the major reason we did what we did.

Stars are important of course but they can only be stars when the cogs in the wheel work for them. Lever can only play roaming backman when Petty is locking down on a dangerous tall. Salem can only play distributor when Rivers and Hibberd keep the opposition crumbers at bay.

The star midfielders need Jordon, Sparrow, Viney, etc to play their roles. Block, shepherd, tackle, etc.

Our supposed top 10 players are only as good their teammates around them allow them to be.

Edited by dee-tox
  • Like 9
  • Thanks 2
  • Love 1
Posted
8 hours ago, dee-tox said:

The performance of our so called role players  (Petty, ANB, Spargo, Hibberd, Brayshaw, TMac, Jordon, Sparrow, Viney on occasions, Harmes, Rivers and Sparrow) are the major reason we did what we did.

Stars are important of course but they can only be stars when the cogs in the wheel work for them. Lever can only play roaming backman when Petty is locking down on a dangerous tall. Salem can only play distributor when Rivers and Hibberd keep the opposition crumbers at bay.

The star midfielders need Jordon, Sparrow, Viney, etc to play their roles. Block, shepherd, tackle, etc.

Our supposed top 10 players are only as good their teammates around them allow them to be.

+1. And even the stars have to play their respective roles.

  • Like 1
Posted
8 hours ago, dee-tox said:

I find these type of lists a bit contrary to our modus operandi of last year.

The performance of our so called role players  (Petty, ANB, Spargo, Hibberd, Brayshaw, TMac, Jordon, Sparrow, Viney on occasions, Harmes, Rivers and Sparrow) are the major reason we did what we did.

Stars are important of course but they can only be stars when the cogs in the wheel work for them. Lever can only play roaming backman when Petty is locking down on a dangerous tall. Salem can only play distributor when Rivers and Hibberd keep the opposition crumbers at bay.

The star midfielders need Jordon, Sparrow, Viney, etc to play their roles. Block, shepherd, tackle, etc.

Our supposed top 10 players are only as good their teammates around them allow them to be.

Totally agree

Posted
17 hours ago, Billy said:

1. Oliver

2. Petracca 

3. Gawn

4. Salem

5. Lever

6. Fritsch 

7. May

8. Viney

9. Brown 

10. Jackson

 

your first 7 are a given

after that it becomes hard to split the next 5 or more

Posted

1 GAWN

2 PETRACCA

3 OLIVER

4 MAY

5 LEVER

6 B.BROWN

7 MCDONALD

8 FRITSCH

9 PICKETT

10 JACKSON

Posted
21 hours ago, Demonland said:

Who are your 10?

image.png

HArd to argue with the list. Petty maybe gets in ahead of Langdon.

I know TMac's form tapered off in the second half of the year but we would have been stuffed if he didn't step up in the absence of BB and the Weid for the first half of these season. Very important contribution from Tom this year

  • Like 3

Posted

1. Oliver
2. Petracca
3. May
4. Salem
5. Lever
6. Gawn
7. Viney
------------------
8. Brown
9. Fritsch
10. ANB
Unlucky: Jackson, Kozzie, Langdon, Gus, Petty, Rivers.

The Oliver and Petracca combo are where everything starts. After that I think our best 3 defenders are vital and it's hard to know which order but May and Salem might be the hardest to cover. May's by far our most reliable stopper and Salem just controls the ball use from the back half.

I wanted to have Gawn and Viney higher. Viney especially come finals. Gawn I've only lowered because Jackson's improvement means we can afford to get less out of Gawn. In fact this year we deliberately didn't use up the big fella too early. 

I wanted to squeeze Jacko in but I snuck ANB up because I think he sets up our defensive effort and work rate. Everyone else kind of goes along from him. It's probably Jacko and Kozzie at 10, 11 but I thought I'd give ANB the nod. 

In terms of the tall forwards it's hard to split Brown, Fritsch, T mc and the impact of Jackson/Gawn. If we go smaller up forward then Jacko and Gawn are promoted more. I went Brown at 8 because I thought he did the trickiest structural job as well as kicking goals. Tommy took an unselfish role up the ground (which suits his game). The rucks kind of floated around. And Fritsch was the main goal kicker but to keep winning against the best backlines next year I think it will take more Ben Brown.

Posted

Richmond went 7 years with only one or two changes to their B&F top 10 each year, and many of those changes were injury related.

The moment it became hard to be sure who their best / most important 10 were, they were winning premierships.

We've got several players who could be considered in our bottom six but also have an argument made that they are in our most important ten. 

It's freak'n magnificent. Not a useless body on the field.

  • Like 3

Posted

Alittle bit hard to answer at the momment but I would definetly have both Langdon and Brayshaw in it. People here do not appreciate Brayshaw enough. You saw his value in the grand final.

  • Like 4
Posted
6 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Alittle bit hard to answer at the momment but I would definetly have both Langdon and Brayshaw in it. People here do not appreciate Brayshaw enough. You saw his value in the grand final.

Reckon Brayshaw's baseline performances should be what we saw in the finals series. I rate him highly as a player but he did have a few average games during the year.

Personally I'd like to see him get at least a few minutes a quarter in the middle. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, adonski said:

Reckon Brayshaw's baseline performances should be what we saw in the finals series. I rate him highly as a player but he did have a few average games during the year.

Personally I'd like to see him get at least a few minutes a quarter in the middle. 

This is why a lot of the pondering in this thread is futile. I think the Dogs thought Brayshaw's side/wing was  the lesser of the evils (Langdon) and look how that turned out. The most important 10 are the 10 the ball goes through the most in any given match. Yes, the midfielders will be over represented because they are by nature the group where the ball goes through the most. I can understand  ranking the most important players in tennis. But in the AFL it's the team that makes the whole. Go back to the Grand Final and only watch Kozzie, the fact he didn't kick a goal is immaterial to his contribution. He could very easily be the most important player on the ground come Game 1. Having said all that, if we had a injury /surgery list like 2019 then the 10 most important players would be the ones who are next up.

Edited by dworship
clarety
  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Posted

When I think of importance to the team I think about how we’ve gone about this last year and it’s so much to do with structure and method. That said I put my top three as match importance as well for what they can do that almost no one else can. 

1. Oliver

2. Petracca 

3. Gawn

4. Lever

5. Salem

6. May

7. Fritta

8. Langdon

9. BBB

10. Jackson 

Viney, Nibbler, Spargo, Kozzie, and Brayshaw unlucky not to be in that list as well. Someone also made the point above that what is almost more important are the players that fall into best 18-26 of the club that fill the gaps and keep the pressure on. 

 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    THE ACCIDENTAL DEMONS by The Oracle

    In the space of eight days, the Melbourne Football Club’s plans for the coming year were turned upside down by two season-ending injuries to players who were contending strongly for places in its opening round match against the GWS Giants. Shane McAdam was first player to go down with injury when he ruptured an Achilles tendon at Friday afternoon training, a week before the cut-off date for the AFL’s pre-season supplemental selection period (“SSP”). McAdam was beginning to get some real mom

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    PREGAME: Practice Match vs Fremantle

    The Demons hit the road for what will be their first of 8 interstate trips this year when they play their final practice match before the 2025 AFL Premiership Season against the Fremantle Dockers in Perth on Sunday, 2nd March @ 6:10pm (AEDT). 2025 AAMI Community Series Sun Mar 2 Fremantle v Melbourne, Rushton Oval, Mandurah, 3.10pm AWST (6.10pm AEDT)

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 113

    RETURN TO NORMAL by Whispering Jack

    One of my prized possessions is a framed, autographed guernsey bearing the number 31 worn by my childhood hero, Melbourne’s champion six time premiership player Ronald Dale Barassi who passed away on 16 September 2023, aged 87. The former captain who went on to a successful coaching career, mainly with other clubs, came back to the fold in his later years as a staunch Demon supporter who often sat across the way from me in the Northern Stand of the MCG cheering on the team. Barassi died the

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    PODCAST: Match SIM vs North Melbourne

    Join us LIVE on Monday night at 8:30pm—note that this special time is just for this week due to prior commitments. We'll break down the Match SIM against North Melbourne and wrap up the preseason with insights into training and our latest recruits. I apologize for skipping our annual season review show at the end of last season. After a disapponting season filled with off-field antics and a heated trade week, I needed a break. Thankfully, the offseason has recharged me, and I’m back—ready t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 43

    GAMEDAY: Match SIM vs North Melbourne

    After an agonizingly long off-season the 2025 AFL Premiership Season is almost upon us and the Demons have their first practice hit out against the Kangaroos in a match simulation out at Arden Street. The Demons will take on the Kangaroos in match simulation play, starting from 10am AEDT and broadcast live on Foxtel and Kayo. The play start time was brought forward from the initial 11am bounce, due to the high temperatures forecast.  The match sim will consist of four 25-minute qu

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 465

    TRAINING: Friday 21st February 2025

    Demonland Trackwatchers beat the Friday heat to bring you their observations from this morning's Captain's Run out at Gosch's Paddock in the lead up to their first hit out in a Practice Match tomorrow against the Kangaroos. TRAVY14'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS On the park: Trac Spargo Gawn Viney Langdon May Fritsch Salem Henderson Rehab: McVee (updated to include Melk, Kolt, AMW and Kentfield) Spoke to "Gus" the trainer, he said these are the guys no

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 19th February 2025

    Demonlander The Analyser was the sole Trackwatcher out at Casey Fields today to bring you the following observations from this mornings preseason training session. Training  was at Casey today. It consisted of a match simulation for one half  and then a free choice activity time. Activities included kicking for goal,  aerial , contest work etc. I noticed the following players not in match simulation Jack Viney  running laps and looks fine for round one . I think Kolt looks like he’s im

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Monday 17th February 2025

    Demonland Trackwatchers were on hand at Monday morning's preseason training at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their brief observations of the session. HARVEY WALLBANGER'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Gentle flush session at Gosch's this morning. Absent: May, Pickett (All Stars) McVee, McAdam. Rehabbing: Great to see Kentfield back (much slimmer), walking with Tholstrup, TMac (suspect just a management thing), Viney (still being cautious with that rib cartilage?), Melksham (

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    MATCH SIM: Friday 14th February 2025

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers made their way out to Casey Field's for the Melbourne Football Club's Family Series day to bring you their observations on the Match Simulation. HARVEY WALLBANGER'S MATCH SIMULATION OBSERVATIONS Absent: May, Pickett (All Stars), McVee, Windor, Kentfield, Mentha Present but not playing: Petracca, Viney, Spargo, Tholstrup, Melksham Starting Blue 18 (+ just 2 interchange): B: Petty, TMac, Lever, Howes, Bowey Salem M: Gawn, Oliver, La

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...