Ollie fan

I think he has an x-factor. He doesn't get involved enough and has few possessions but as discussed above, there are reasons for that. I am happy for us to persevere with him.

I was reading this thread, and golly, there is some misinformation here! It seems that Lever had. a shocker yet I see on the AFL website that he took 13(!!!!!) marks. I would like to get good info from Demonland but all I see is how terrible Goody is, how all our players are spuds, how dreadful our administration is, etc etc etc

I'd like him. I think one problem with our present key forwards is that they are all learners at the game. An experienced key forward - eg Tom Hawkins - knows instinctively how to lead so as to DEMAND proper delivery. We don't need smalls. Kossie is a champion and Chandler is very underrated. And although many on DL don't recognise it, Fritta is an x-factor - neither tall nor small, an excellent mark, a very difficult matchup.

Completely agree. He looked great. And the fact that he kicked two goals will make him feel good vibes about the Dees; I truly hope he comes to us.

He wasn't called "lethal Leigh" for no reason.

My two bobs' worth: it's great. He is fantastic to watch, incredible ability to get out of trouble cleanly, galvanises the team, can turn a game. And if it means we get a few more Picketts over the years, that's got to be a good thing.

Just watching the game again I notice two things (and I'm only in the second quarter): Sparrow's goal in the first - look at Sidebottom jumping side to side on the mark while 2 Collingwood players are in the protected area - nothing. Later Lindsay gets a 50 against him for far less. Early in the second quarter, HTB against Quaynor - he is on the ground holding it, and as he gets up he just leaves the ball on the ground - nothing. Cost us a goal against Kossie later in the game.

For all those criticising Clarrie and Trac on this thread: go and have a look at Jeff White's analysis on his thread, and see how well they are doing their job.

What a fabulous analysis. And it shows just how good our main midfielders are, in ways that, without the analysis, I for one would have no idea about.

One of the criticisms he has faced is lack of adaptability. What about giving him credit for the brilliant move of Langdon onto Nick Daicos?

You are very hard on Sparrow and Chandler, who were both excellent IMV

I came to this street after the game, wind there would be [censored] blaming this on Goodwin. Goodwin clearly won the coaching battle. His plans completely nullified Elliott and Hill, and stopped the Collingwood run pretty much in its tracks for most of the time. Not his fault that we can't kick fit goal, And lost free kicks 29 to 20. Or that Max did an absolutely terrible kick at a crucial time. But go ahead and bag Goody....

Completely agree. He is not a defender. I think he should do a straight swap with X who I think would be superb in that role, on the opposite side to McVee.

Watching them warm up, once again I am reminded of how much the Kolt looks like the great Jako. Oh, wouldn't it be wonderful if today he chose to play like him!

With McStay in we may well regret not having TMac.

It's a real shame. I had expected him to take Daicos and towel him up.

Still can't believe TMac is in this team - and Adams was named ahead of him in the firsts!! The good thing is that perhaps he can help educate Kentfield. I don't know whether Luker will make it but with his size, if he learns to play the role of KPF well he could become a real asset to us.

I thought that it was an interesting contest between Max and Grundy, actually. They got about the same number of taps, but Max was clearly better around the ground. But he didn't absolutely dominate Grundy in the way he has done in recent weeks.

Joeboy, you are wrong about Chandler. He was great. He and Bowey have absolutely blossomed this year.

I can't understand the love for Clarry on this thread. Everyone - well, at least some posters - knows that we should have traded him to Geelong for whatever we could get, possibly a second round pick if we paid half his salary.... Having got that off my chest: at the ground, the love for him from players and supporters when he kicked his goal was truly wonderful.

Yes but I think he is carrying injuries.

FWIW I won't be at all surprised if tomorrow May is out and TMac replaces him.

Dempsey gets a goal after a mark outside the boundary. Geelong 22 frees, WB 10....

I hate Geelong

Ross Lyon did a press conference recently where he got a bit snippy with a reporter, because he knew that the reporter's knowledge of the game was miles behind his own. My point is, someone like Lyon would be fantastic at explaining some of the final points of the game. Obviously, he has other things on his mind at the moment but there should be plenty of people like him out there.