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I can't find this covered elsewhere, but Robbo has his annual top 50 published in today's Herald Sun. We need a thread just so we can criticise his choices.

I haven't got the list in front of me, but there are 4 Demons: Gawn, Petracca, Oliver and May. I think Gawn and Petracca are both in the top 10, Oliver is (I think) number 33 and May is in the forties.

Congratulations to them.

And may the criticism of Robbo begin...

Mark Robinson’s 2021 pre-season top 50:
    1.    Dustin Martin (Richmond)
    2.    Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
    3.    Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
    4.    Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
    5.    Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
    6.    Christian Petracca (Melbourne)
    7.    Patrick Cripps (Carlton)
    8.    Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
    9.    Nic Naitanui (West Coast)
    10.    Max Gawn (Melbourne)
    11.    Liam Ryan (West Coast)
    12.    Brodie Grundy (Collingwood)
    13.    Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
    14.    Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs)
    15.    Harris Andrews (Brisbane)
    16.    Lachie Whitfield (Greater Western Sydney)
    17.    Jack Steele (St Kilda)
    18.    Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide)
    19.    Jordan De Goey (Collingwood)
    20.    Travis Boak (Port Adelaide)
    21.    Dylan Grimes (Richmond)
    22.    Matt Rowell (Gold Coast)
    23.    Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
    24.    Luke Ryan (Fremantle)
    25.    Nick Vlastuin (Richmond)
    26.    Joe Daniher (Brisbane)
    27.    Jeremy McGovern (West Coast)
    28.    Jeremy Cameron (Geelong)
    29.    Darcy Moore (Collingwood)
    30.    Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney)
    31.    Luke Shuey (West Coast)
    32.    Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn)
    33.    Clayton Oliver (Melbourne)
    34.    Michael Walters (Fremantle)
    35.    Jayden Short (Richmond)
    36.    Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
    37.    Luke Parker (Sydney)
    38.    Tom J. Lynch (Richmond)
    39.    Shai Bolton (Richmond)
    40.    Nick Haynes (Greater Western Sydney)
    41.    Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
    42.    Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
    43.    Zach Merrett (Essendon)
    44.    Taylor Adams (Collingwood)
    45.    Steven May (Melbourne)
    46.    Jacob Weitering (Carlton)
    47.    Sam Walsh (Carlton)
    48.    Jordan Ridley (Essendon)
    49.    Bailey Smith (Western Bulldogs)
    50.    Jy Simpkin (North Melbourne)

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To be brutally honest I cannot think of 32 Players that are better than Clarry, Clayton Oliver please make Robbo eat his words.!!!!!!!!!

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About to do a top 50 list of footy journalists. Robbo's ranking......sorry slobbo didn't make it. Blithering drunks .. numero uno.


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Mark Robinson’s 2021 pre-season top 50:

1. Dustin Martin (Richmond)
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
3. Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
4. Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
5. Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
6. Christian Petracca (Melbourne)
7. Patrick Cripps (Carlton)
8. Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
9. Nic Naitanui (West Coast)
10. Max Gawn (Melbourne)
11. Liam Ryan (West Coast)
12. Brodie Grundy (Collingwood)
13. Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
14. Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs)
15. Harris Andrews (Brisbane)
16. Lachie Whitfield (Greater Western Sydney)
17. Jack Steele (St Kilda)
18. Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide)
19. Jordan De Goey (Collingwood)
20. Travis Boak (Port Adelaide)
21. Dylan Grimes (Richmond)
22. Matt Rowell (Gold Coast)
23. Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
24. Luke Ryan (Fremantle)
25. Nick Vlastuin (Richmond)
26. Joe Daniher (Brisbane)
27. Jeremy McGovern (West Coast)
28. Jeremy Cameron (Geelong)
29. Darcy Moore (Collingwood)
30. Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney)
31. Luke Shuey (West Coast)
32. Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn)
33. Clayton Oliver (Melbourne)
34. Michael Walters (Fremantle)
35. Jayden Short (Richmond)
36. Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
37. Luke Parker (Sydney)
38. Tom J. Lynch (Richmond)
39. Shai Bolton (Richmond)
40. Nick Haynes (Greater Western Sydney)
41. Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
42. Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
43. Zach Merrett (Essendon)
44. Taylor Adams (Collingwood)
45. Steven May (Melbourne)
46. Jacob Weitering (Carlton)
47. Sam Walsh (Carlton)
48. Jordan Ridley (Essendon)
49. Bailey Smith (Western Bulldogs)
50. Jy Simpkin (North Melbourne)

https://www.zerohanger.com/mark-robinson-reveals-his-top-50-for-2021-afl-80545/

 

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19 hours ago, Dr.D said:

33 is too low for Oliver in my eyes. 

 

49 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

To be brutally honest I cannot think of 32 Players that are better than Clarry, Clayton Oliver please make Robbo eat his words.!!!!!!!!!

Don't agree with you a lot 'Dr' but definitely with you here.

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18 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Mark Robinson’s 2021 pre-season top 50:

1. Dustin Martin (Richmond)
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
3. Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
4. Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
5. Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
6. Christian Petracca (Melbourne)
7. Patrick Cripps (Carlton)
8. Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
9. Nic Naitanui (West Coast)
10. Max Gawn (Melbourne)
11. Liam Ryan (West Coast)
12. Brodie Grundy (Collingwood)
13. Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
14. Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs)
15. Harris Andrews (Brisbane)
16. Lachie Whitfield (Greater Western Sydney)
17. Jack Steele (St Kilda)
18. Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide)
19. Jordan De Goey (Collingwood)
20. Travis Boak (Port Adelaide)
21. Dylan Grimes (Richmond)
22. Matt Rowell (Gold Coast)
23. Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
24. Luke Ryan (Fremantle)
25. Nick Vlastuin (Richmond)
26. Joe Daniher (Brisbane)
27. Jeremy McGovern (West Coast)
28. Jeremy Cameron (Geelong)
29. Darcy Moore (Collingwood)
30. Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney)
31. Luke Shuey (West Coast)
32. Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn)
33. Clayton Oliver (Melbourne)
34. Michael Walters (Fremantle)
35. Jayden Short (Richmond)
36. Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
37. Luke Parker (Sydney)
38. Tom J. Lynch (Richmond)
39. Shai Bolton (Richmond)
40. Nick Haynes (Greater Western Sydney)
41. Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
42. Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
43. Zach Merrett (Essendon)
44. Taylor Adams (Collingwood)
45. Steven May (Melbourne)
46. Jacob Weitering (Carlton)
47. Sam Walsh (Carlton)
48. Jordan Ridley (Essendon)
49. Bailey Smith (Western Bulldogs)
50. Jy Simpkin (North Melbourne)

https://www.zerohanger.com/mark-robinson-reveals-his-top-50-for-2021-afl-80545/

 

 

Cripps at 7 and Oliver at 33

Umm ok Robbo....   wait it gets worse, he has Liam Ryan at 11

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Joe Daniher at 26 - wow Slobbo really has jumped the tracks.

 

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1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Can someone post the top 50 so I can laugh at Slobbo

I dont read the Hun and Im not subscribing to their website to help fund his liquid lunches

To be honest - this surprised me.

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Oliver was lucky to be top 50 based on last year, but I wouldn’t swap him for any midfielder outside the top 10.

Andrews, McGovern, Moore and May all too low based on last year.
 

Liam Ryan too high but I like him top 30, he’s freakish and well rounded.

Overall it’s a pretty solid list. 

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4 minutes ago, Happy Jack said:

Joe Daniher at 26 - wow Slobbo really has jumped the tracks.

 

 

2 minutes ago, reynolds46 said:

To have joe Daniher in a list when he has hardly played a game in 3 years is farcical 

Not really. He’s a top 10 talent just waiting to get a good run at it and is at the club with the best recent history. Add in some practice match form and you couldn’t leave him out of the top 50 projections 

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1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

To be brutally honest I cannot think of 32 Players that are better than Clarry, Clayton Oliver please make Robbo eat his words.!!!!!!!!!

True top 6 players in the game at present no doubt in my mind!

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1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

Oliver was lucky to be top 50 based on last year, but I wouldn’t swap him for any midfielder outside the top 10.

Andrews, McGovern, Moore and May all too low based on last year.
 

Liam Ryan too high but I like him top 30, he’s freakish and well rounded.

Overall it’s a pretty solid list. 

 

If he can hold onto his 'better habits' version and use space from stoppages a bit smarter to get more effective clearances, that puts him in the absolute top bracket of midfielders.  Just need a bit more of what was in the 'video of the week' from the practice match! :lol:

Either way, Oliver easily led the competition for clearances last year. He is surely in the same mix as Cripps, Macrae, Steele, Wines and Boak.

 

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Rowell at 22 after he’s played 3 games.

Daniher at 26 when he doesn’t get on the park and hasn’t impacted a game for 3-4 years.

Clarry at 33 after he’s played 100 games at possibly the highest quality first 100 games ever.

Slobbo needs to lay off the [censored]!

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i was going to bag robbo's list mercilessly on so many fronts

......but then i thought who gives a flying f what robbo thinks. in fact "robbo thinks" is an oxymoron

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12 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Rowell at 22 after he’s played 3 games.

Daniher at 26 when he doesn’t get on the park and hasn’t impacted a game for 3-4 years.

Clarry at 33 after he’s played 100 games at possibly the highest quality first 100 games ever.

Slobbo needs to lay off the [censored]!

Agree, Claz at 33 is underrating him.  But a lot of experts seem to have Clarry blinkers.

Have to say the hype around Rowell is insane.  He's clearly extremely talented & the potential is big but as of March 2021 he's played exactly THREE senior games and has had a serious injury.  The media need to give these kids some time to breathe. 

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More like the Bruce- o - meter rankings. How spehhshallll they are. 

robbo seems to apply different metrics to different players- past, present and potential performance without any consistency.  He is a [censored] anyway.

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I remember when I was excited when we had ONE in the top 50. Re Oliver, when he's BOG in a winning final watch everyones eyes open. Belongs more in the top 20 atm and soon to be top 5- 10. 

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