Jack Viney Restricted Free Agent

[Lord Travis 10,141]

15 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Word is, 5 year deal, locked in.

 

Heard the same thing, but different length deal - 4 years. Either way he's red and blue for the remainder of his career now.

Be interesting to see which players are shuffled out over the off-season!

[Kent 2,574]

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Jack’s got that ‘how did we lose to Sydney we should be playing finals next week’ - look

looks how I feel 

No its "let me out of Here"

[Engorged Onion 9,229]

If he stays, well I am satisfied with that. All players have weaknesses and Viney's are well known. It's how best to fit him in (as I see he is the most limited from a skills perspective) with the rest of them, not how the rest fit around Jack.

Nonethless, if he is to leave - I find that exciting also.

[Ouch! 2,034]

Would love him to remain with the club, looking at Jack last night, his speech showed how much of a toll this season has taken on him personally. He let slip that he and his wife almost left the hub to return home cos the stress of being new parents away from any family assistance was incredibly difficult. So any form of elation or lack thereof is acceptable to me.

The club has talked about being ruthless recently, but equally important, our club needs to recognise a culture and embedding it in. Happy with Gawn as captain, we want Viney staying, May showed how much he wanted to repay the faith to the club from last year, it's clicked with Petracca this year, and I think Jones getting one more year even as a significant milestone to defining the culture for this club. I am not saying gift him 300 games, but another year to work his [censored] off and to the milestone on merit!!!

... lets be ruthless, but lets recognise the fabric of club and learn from what is important to the club.  The Viney name means a lot to me as a supporter of this club.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,398]

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Perhaps he plays the role the club wants him to play, but when I see him bash and crash his own teammates and repeatedly get caught with ball in hand, it doesn't appear that he gels with the rest of the inside mids, and to me we play better when he isn't in the centre bounce.

Regardless, at his age and with his history of foot injuries, 5 years is far too many. 

He might be trying to adjust his game to break free of the congestion prior to releasing the ball (ala Oliver) rather than just shooting off handballs to teammates under pressure. He's still a valuable member of the team and required in our midfield rotations moving forward. Don't forget we had shorter quarters this year limiting the midfield minutes of some players and a pretty good run with injuries. If 1, 2 or 3 of those in our midfield rotation go down with injuries next year plus we lose Viney prepare to see the likes of ANB lining up in the square at centre bounces.

[Hogan2014 390]

He’s bled for the team deserves a long contract a leader in every way ... should have been captain. Nothing against Gawn or at least dual captain though players voted. We just don’t realise how hard was for him and other players as a new father with a baby having to go into a hub away from family support... 

[Redlagged 806]

18 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

He’s bled for the team deserves a long contract a leader in every way ... should have been captain. Nothing against Gawn or at least dual captain though players voted. We just don’t realise how hard was for him and other players as a new father with a baby having to go into a hub away from family support... 

Agreed.  Good season; av 20 possessions. Strong third in B&F. Gave his all, in difficult personal circumstances. And we have keyboard warriors on this site boasting they'd be happy to 'pack his bags' to leave. Sickening; pathetic;  a sad comment.

[Witches Hat 228]

Viney is staying. Geelong now chasing Crouch.

 

[Bay Riffin 1,413]

3 hours ago, Witches Hat said:

Viney is staying. Geelong now chasing Crouch.

 

tomato sauce ?

[Wobbly Bob 79]

4 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

tomato sauce ?

In their clash jumper, Crouch is a White Crow?

[waynewussell 4,081]

I'm really outraged by the MFC players who get in Jack's way when he is crashing through!

[deebug 1,754]

4 hours ago, Redlagged said:

Agreed.  Good season; av 20 possessions. Strong third in B&F. Gave his all, in difficult personal circumstances. And we have keyboard warriors on this site boasting they'd be happy to 'pack his bags' to leave. Sickening; pathetic;  a sad comment.

Well said?

[binman 37,763]

5 hours ago, Ouch! said:

Would love him to remain with the club, looking at Jack last night, his speech showed how much of a toll this season has taken on him personally. He let slip that he and his wife almost left the hub to return home cos the stress of being new parents away from any family assistance was incredibly difficult. So any form of elation or lack thereof is acceptable to me.

The club has talked about being ruthless recently, but equally important, our club needs to recognise a culture and embedding it in. Happy with Gawn as captain, we want Viney staying, May showed how much he wanted to repay the faith to the club from last year, it's clicked with Petracca this year, and I think Jones getting one more year even as a significant milestone to defining the culture for this club. I am not saying gift him 300 games, but another year to work his [censored] off and to the milestone on merit!!!

... lets be ruthless, but lets recognise the fabric of club and learn from what is important to the club.  The Viney name means a lot to me as a supporter of this club.

Great post. 

His speech was brilliant i thought. I was super impressed. The best I have heard him speak publicly. 

[Deetective Sgt. Taggert 380]

31 minutes ago, binman said:

Great post. 

His speech was brilliant i thought. I was super impressed. The best I have heard him speak publicly. 

Agreed. Best speech of the night. I thought it showed class and maturity. 

[waynewussell 4,081]

I applaud the posters who are vehemently opposed to everything Jack Viney does. It makes it so easy for the rest of us to dismiss them as having nfi when it comes to football intelligence! 

[ChaserJ 3,956]

5 hours ago, Redlagged said:

Agreed.  Good season; av 20 possessions. Strong third in B&F. Gave his all, in difficult personal circumstances. And we have keyboard warriors on this site boasting they'd be happy to 'pack his bags' to leave. Sickening; pathetic;  a sad comment.

And nary a foot issue in sight, which is a massive bonus. I reckon he’ll have a massive 2021.

[Dr.D 1,771]

I like Jack Viney but I'm so sick of yelling 'GET RID OF IT!!!' every single time he has the ball. He has no concept of space, taking the easy option or just how detrimental a holding the ball decision can be. He really needs to work hard on this, all bloody summer, and just give the easy option instead of barging through. it achieves nothing. id be happy to off load him if he continues to do it next season. patience is wearing very thin.

[wattsindawes 57]

5 hours ago, Redlagged said:

Agreed.  Good season; av 20 possessions. Strong third in B&F. Gave his all, in difficult personal circumstances. And we have keyboard warriors on this site boasting they'd be happy to 'pack his bags' to leave. Sickening; pathetic;  a sad comment.

Agreed.. Built for finals! Will be the best sight to see him with that premiership medal - in the red and blue. ??

[Axis of Bob 10,158]

9 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

I like Jack Viney but I'm so sick of yelling 'GET RID OF IT!!!' every single time he has the ball. He has no concept of space, taking the easy option or just how detrimental a holding the ball decision can be. He really needs to work hard on this, all bloody summer, and just give the easy option instead of barging through. it achieves nothing. id be happy to off load him if he continues to do it next season. patience is wearing very thin.

Then the problem is likely to mostly yours.

This year, Viney conceded 15 free kicks in 16 games. Let's say, for simplicity (even though it overstates it), that half of these were for holding the ball. That means that he was conceding a holding the ball free kick fewer than once every two matches. If it's even a problem then the impact of that is so extremely small that it's barely worth talking about.

Like I said, the problem is likely to be one of perception.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

10 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

Then the problem is likely to mostly yours.

This year, Viney conceded 15 free kicks in 16 games. Let's say, for simplicity (even though it overstates it), that half of these were for holding the ball. That means that he was conceding a holding the ball free kick fewer than once every two matches. If it's even a problem then the impact of that is so extremely small that it's barely worth talking about.

Like I said, the problem is likely to be one of perception.

Same people likely bag Oliver for getting rid of it too quickly...

[Ethan Tremblay 28,288]

I’ve been told we’ll hear something official very very soon, some time within the next few weeks. Stay tuned. #ETthetradewhisperer. 

[wheaters31 562]

11 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’ve been told we’ll hear something official very very soon, some time within the next few weeks. Stay tuned. #ETthetradewhisperer. 

Is that you Tom Browne?

[praha 10,267]

If we lose Jack Viney it will be James McDonald x10000. Simply cannot lose him. 

[Roost it far 5,976]

50 minutes ago, praha said:

If we lose Jack Viney it will be James McDonald x10000. Simply cannot lose him. 

Yes we can and for the right return we should consider it. It’s a team game and he’s but an individual 

[Binmans PA 25,892]

10 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

He finished 3rd in the B&F over Oliver and Gawn. I'm willing to say that this 'not team first' stuff is complete rubbish.

Yep, unfortunately they're rating his poor midfield play and that's more worrying to me. He doesn't, as you say, have Oliver's hands or vision, yet they've rated his rugby to be better than Oliver's year. It's astounding to me, but c'est la vie.

Needs to play a different role and I don't think it'd be a good idea to sign him more than 3 or 4 years. That would take him through until 30 and then we can reassess on one or two year contracts depending on the state of his body.