Jump to content

  • Podcast: Jason Taylor   

  • Podcast: Jason Taylor   

TEAMS: Rd 04 vs Geelong



Recommended Posts

25 minutes ago, binman said:

I meant to do tonight's one. Was working and list track of time, remembering only at 7:28. Was it good? 

Yeah it was. All of Mahoneys ones so far have been pretty interesting. Pretty sure they record the sessions as I remember that being said after the Richardson one. Maybe they post them on the club website somewhere?

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 270
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Feels weird playing a game this weekend. Usually we play once every 3-6 months.

I would be shocked if he is dropped.  i highly recommend the zoom sessions the club is running at the moment. Fantastic intiaitive from the club. I have only missed one so far. The only go for 30

I don't mind the Jetta omission. Its bold, and at least Goodwin isn't just playing him just because of his outstanding service. See Jones as well. Jetta is one of my all time faves ( note my avat

Posted Images

I don't mind the Jetta omission. Its bold, and at least Goodwin isn't just playing him just because of his outstanding service. See Jones as well.

Jetta is one of my all time faves ( note my avatar) but unfortunately he hasn't had form since 2018, and this year he just looks slow and is clearly out of form.

From all reports Lockhart has absolutely been banging the door down, so he deserves his opportunity. Looking forward to Pickett play!

  • Like 10
Link to post
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, JTR said:

According to Mahoney about 5 minutes ago (Zoom call).

Jetta down on form and he acknowledges that himself.

Hibberd coming in allows Harmes to get back into the midfield mix.

 

Oh and Bennell...  he said they want to work him back into it slowly. He was never going to playing every game this season.  They want him to be a long term player and so he will be in for a couple then out for a lower intensity match in between, such as with this week in the scratch match. 

The other element Mahoney mentioned was that with Hannan & VandenBerg in, both haven't got a lot of miles in the legs after their injuries, and the coaching team didn't want to carry (for want of a better word) Bennell, who at this point would only be expected to see 60% of game time (FWIW I did have a similar concern going into the Bombers game when Bennell & VandenBerg were both selected).

On Weideman, Mahoney said he's going ok, but they (coaching panel I assume) wanted to have a look at the forward line structure with just the one tall for a period of time. Sam will be right in contention when they decide they want to switch to two talls.

I think we are going to see a fair amount of experimentation with the side for a block of the season before we settle into a team and game style.

  • Like 10
Link to post
Share on other sites

It is a good side picked  and we can go in with confidence with more than a healthy list  to pick from.   It will be  about team balance.            With Hibberd,   Vanders and Hannan it  gives us a hard edge  and with Kossi and Lockhart our future,  they are certainly red hot goers.

All good inclusions which makes the team very solid .  It is a good start and now we have to make it happen.

Edited by nosoupforme
  • Like 5
Link to post
Share on other sites

The forward line is still my main concern, I like someone's earlier suggestion of playing Hunt at FF and move Fritta into a HFF role, keep Tommy Mac as a CHF (please let him clunk some marks this week!). Like so much of course it's dependent on delivery, spot up passes or at least space for players to run into. Hunt has had a good start to the year and looked good in the limited footage from the Intraclub match.

Honestly with this year going the way it has I literally don't have a clue what we'll bring to the table this weekend. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Not sure I agree totally mate.

ANB was good against the Blues - Dropped.

Hannan & vandenBerg - Rushed straight back in from injury.

Brown and Weid - Not even getting a sniff.

TMac and Gus - Indifferent form for a long time now but picked every week regardless.

Sure, Nev and Jones have been dropped, but most of the other names are the same ones that get the same amount of either extremely limited or seemingly overextended chances.

Trouble is three of the players you've named have tenuous claims to getting a game at best. ANB (faded like the rest against Carlton). Weid and Brown still not showing enough.  as someone else posted about TMac, there is no one else

Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

The other element Mahoney mentioned was that with Hannan & VandenBerg in, both haven't got a lot of miles in the legs after their injuries, and the coaching team didn't want to carry (for want of a better word) Bennell, who at this point would only be expected to see 60% of game time (FWIW I did have a similar concern going into the Bombers game when Bennell & VandenBerg were both selected).

On Weideman, Mahoney said he's going ok, but they (coaching panel I assume) wanted to have a look at the forward line structure with just the one tall for a period of time. Sam will be right in contention when they decide they want to switch to two talls.

I think we are going to see a fair amount of experimentation with the side for a block of the season before we settle into a team and game style.

Sooooo we're tanking?? Lol

 

 

Too soon?

Edited by dazzledavey36
  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

The other element Mahoney mentioned was that with Hannan & VandenBerg in, both haven't got a lot of miles in the legs after their injuries, and the coaching team didn't want to carry (for want of a better word) Bennell, who at this point would only be expected to see 60% of game time (FWIW I did have a similar concern going into the Bombers game when Bennell & VandenBerg were both selected).

On Weideman, Mahoney said he's going ok, but they (coaching panel I assume) wanted to have a look at the forward line structure with just the one tall for a period of time. Sam will be right in contention when they decide they want to switch to two talls.

I think we are going to see a fair amount of experimentation with the side for a block of the season before we settle into a team and game style.

Good report, thanks.

I thought the off-season (Sept to March) is when to experiment with structures.  Worrying that we are experimenting 'for a period of time' because that affects so many other things like ball movement from the midfield, running patterns for forwards, etc.   The coach talks about cohesion/connection with forwards.  If we are still experimenting it is no wonder we can't get that cohesion and connection. 

I wonder how many games 'a period of time' is.  The season will be half gone and we will still be experimenting. 

The more the season goes on the less hope I have for us making finals.

Edited by Lucifer's Hero
  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, loges said:

Trouble is three of the players you've named have tenuous claims to getting a game at best. ANB (faded like the rest against Carlton). Weid and Brown still not showing enough.  as someone else posted about TMac, there is no one else

As far as similar roles go, ANB had a far superior game to both Jones and Melksham. Now, I prefer both Jones and Melksham as footballers, but if we're truly picking on form then I'm not sure ANB is the one to get dropped out of the three after that game.

Brown and Weid have both kicked bags in scratch matches and intraclubs, TMac has barely fired a shot in both regular games and intraclubs. Jackson (whom I rate very very highly as a talent) had no impact in the Carlton game. Yet, TMac no chance to be dropped and Jackson named in the squad ahead of both Brown and Weid. Sure, there might be things behind the scenes, but form wise it's completely backwards.

Brayshaw has plodded along for 18 months in absolutely no danger of being dropped.

To me, just seems like Goodwin absolutely does favour certain names.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks like Jon Ralph is trying to stir up trouble. 
Has written that despite Goodwin saying Harley was not picked on a minutes on ground basis, that Harley believes he was dropped for poor form. 
Unless he has spoken to Harley that is pretty ordinary.

Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

As far as similar roles go, ANB had a far superior game to both Jones and Melksham. Now, I prefer both Jones and Melksham as footballers, but if we're truly picking on form then I'm not sure ANB is the one to get dropped out of the three after that game.

Brown and Weid have both kicked bags in scratch matches and intraclubs, TMac has barely fired a shot in both regular games and intraclubs. Jackson (whom I rate very very highly as a talent) had no impact in the Carlton game. Yet, TMac no chance to be dropped and Jackson named in the squad ahead of both Brown and Weid. Sure, there might be things behind the scenes, but form wise it's completely backwards.

Brayshaw has plodded along for 18 months in absolutely no danger of being dropped.

To me, just seems like Goodwin absolutely does favour certain names.

Not sure i am in the same boat with this statement. Dropping Neville Jetta, Nathan Jones and Michael Hibbered shows he's now not afraid to drop big name players that don't perform. It's been well documented that Goodwin is quite close to these 3 players as well, so I don't think there is favouritism at all.

I think Goodwin is also about giving players a fair go as well. Yes ANB was dropped after that one game, but to be honest he hasn't performed since 2018. Same as Oscar Mac. I think he's just lost patience with the likes of those two as he's shown to give them a real decent opportunity and yet they haven't performed up to standard. Its no coincidence they're on the outer now.

Tom McDonald is really on thin line imo. Put up another stinker against the Cats and I reckon Weid or Brown will take his spot.

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not sure i am in the same boat with this statement. Dropping Neville Jetta, Nathan Jones and Michael Hibbered shows he's now not afraid to drop big name players that don't perform. It's been well documented that Goodwin is quite close to these 3 players as well, so I don't think there is favouritism at all.

I think Goodwin is also about giving players a fair go as well. Yes ANB was dropped after that one game, but to be honest he hasn't performed since 2018. Same as Oscar Mac. I think he's just lost patience with the likes of those two as he's shown to give them a real decent opportunity and yet they haven't performed up to standard. Its no coincidence they're on the outer now.

Tom McDonald is really on thin line imo. Put up another stinker against the Cats and I reckon Weid or Brown will take his spot.

Fair mate. I guess I'm more saying that to me it seems inconsistent. Certain players (TMac, Gus especially) are giving unlimited chances. They're both players I rate, but both well below expectation for a very long time.

Also think it's poor if he's "lost patience" in players. It should be purely based on form, not past performance or draft order or anything of the like. Both ANB and OMac were good in 2018, which coincidentally is pretty much the last time Gus and TMac were consistently good also.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Fair mate. I guess I'm more saying that to me it seems inconsistent. Certain players (TMac, Gus especially) are giving unlimited chances. They're both players I rate, but both well below expectation for a very long time.

Also think it's poor if he's "lost patience" in players. It should be purely based on form, not past performance or draft order or anything of the like. Both ANB and OMac were good in 2018, which coincidentally is pretty much the last time Gus and TMac were consistently good also.

I was bored the other night and decided to watch some games back from 2018. Gus Brayshaw at times was far more superior as a midfielder then the likes of Oliver, Petracca, Viney. Yet I feel for some unknown reason he is pushed out from getting valuable time in the centre circle.

I do agree to an extent. I thought Oscar incredibly stiff to be dropped against Carlton after he shut down Darling. Honestly though it was one of his best games. So yes its selection like that I too am confused.

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

In my opinion Tmac and Brayshaw are given more chances when form is shaky because if they hit form their value to the side is significant. Also what is the potential impact of the player that is missing out. I think I heard someone mention Ben Matthews state that Angus was the best performed mid in the intra last week. Hopefully this starts to translate into this week against the cats. 

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

The one I am struggling with is Hibberd. 

Not fast, not particularly strong overhead, OK in a contest but often turns over the intercept or just plain hacks it away.

Also pretty sure Tmac will need a big game this week. He has been below average now for over a year. And that old "bring the ball to the ground" chestnut? Worked so well when we had Chris "Gravity" Dawes patrolling the forward line, right?

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, JTR said:

Email comes around once per week from which you can register for the session/s you want to attend. Then on the day of you get another email with a link to the meeting. 

Agree with binman in that they have been really good. 

Next ones are Plapp on Tuesday and Mahoney next Friday.

Mahoney is the regular one each Friday but others that have been on so far are Gawn, Viney, Matthews & Richardson.

Edit - questions you want asked can be pre-submitted or asked during session.

Thanks, I'll need to check my email.  I rarely do as being in WA most are not relevant. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

Thanks, I'll need to check my email.  I rarely do as being in WA most are not relevant. 

I'm also not getting emails, and have contacted the club twice about this.  Last response was the problem lay with the AFL....awaiting the last response.

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Looks like Jon Ralph is trying to stir up trouble. 
Has written that despite Goodwin saying Harley was not picked on a minutes on ground basis, that Harley believes he was dropped for poor form. 
Unless he has spoken to Harley that is pretty ordinary.

All I know is that the sooner he is back in, the better we will be.

Godwin's messaging was as clear as mud.

A fit Bennell will be of more benefit than any of this weeks inclusions with the exception of maybe Pickett.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

The other element Mahoney mentioned was that with Hannan & VandenBerg in, both haven't got a lot of miles in the legs after their injuries, and the coaching team didn't want to carry (for want of a better word) Bennell, who at this point would only be expected to see 60% of game time (FWIW I did have a similar concern going into the Bombers game when Bennell & VandenBerg were both selected).

On Weideman, Mahoney said he's going ok, but they (coaching panel I assume) wanted to have a look at the forward line structure with just the one tall for a period of time. Sam will be right in contention when they decide they want to switch to two talls.

I think we are going to see a fair amount of experimentation with the side for a block of the season before we settle into a team and game style.

Might have omitted the word "ineffective"

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Looks like Jon Ralph is trying to stir up trouble. 
Has written that despite Goodwin saying Harley was not picked on a minutes on ground basis, that Harley believes he was dropped for poor form. 
Unless he has spoken to Harley that is pretty ordinary.

Maybe Ralph Mouth should have a chat to Burgess. That should go well.....

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Fair mate. I guess I'm more saying that to me it seems inconsistent. Certain players (TMac, Gus especially) are giving unlimited chances. They're both players I rate, but both well below expectation for a very long time.

Also think it's poor if he's "lost patience" in players. It should be purely based on form, not past performance or draft order or anything of the like. Both ANB and OMac were good in 2018, which coincidentally is pretty much the last time Gus and TMac were consistently good also.

Do you need favorites when you are winning games? Becomes meaningless perhaps?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Vandenberg needs to be the injurer now not the injuree.....and what more deserving team than the "rats"

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    SOUNDS OF SILENCE by Whispering Jack

    This was my first game for points involving the Demons in more than a year and a half and the long march to Carrara turned out to be worthwhile. The game was won in a single withering quarter that was dominated by Melbourne on the back of an outstanding display from Karen Paxman. The four-time All Australian picked up 13 touches for the stanza to set up a five goal to nothing second term after a lacklustre start in which the cleaner, sharper Gold Coast notched up the first two goals of the game

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    BRIDESMAIDS AGAIN by Whispering Jack

    Historians of the future will have little difficulty in finding words to define the year 2020. “Covid-19”, “pandemic” and “plague” come readily to mind. The Covid-19 pandemic dominated the year in every aspect of life and it certainly didn’t spare AFL football or the Melbourne Football Club. In the circumstances however, it didn’t treat it as badly as the Spanish Flu epidemic which raged a century earlier from February 1918, through 1919 and into 1920 when it finally petered out in April of

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    THE TASMANIAN TIGER by Whispering Jack

    I first saw Ben Brown on a cold Tuesday night in May, 2013 playing for the Werribee Tigers against Queanbeyan in a televised Foxtel Cup game before a sparse crowd at Etihad Stadium. His teammate and former Demon Jordan Gysberts was the star of the side’s 85-point belting of the hapless ACT club but the then 20 year old, 200cm Brown was also a stand out.  Earlier that year, the athletic big man had left his native Tasmania in an effort to make the grade after being overlooked in three drafts

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2020 by The Oracle

    Part One: The Cure It could be coincidental but since the AFL Free Agency and Trade Period began, the State of Victoria has recorded eight consecutive days of no new active cases and no deaths from Covid19. It might be a little early to announce that a cure for this dreaded virus has been discovered but one thing can be said with some certainty after following the ins and outs of the free agency and trading process — mankind is still a long way off finding a cure for boredom. That stat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 1

    CHANGES 2020 by The Oracle

    Part One: A very strange year Things might have been somewhat hairy when the 1919 football season opened up in the wake of the ending of a world war and in the middle of a pandemic that took millions of lives but it’s difficult to imagine a more unusual football season than the one that ended a week or so ago. For starters, the footy is supposed to finish on that one day in September on the MCG in mild spring weather; not deep into October at the Gabba amid warnings of tropical storms and h

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 1

    DEMONLAND 2020 A TO Z by George on the Outer

    A- Alice Springs. Happy hunting ground.     B- Backline. Finally found the non-leaking version.   C- Cairns & Covid. How a season was ruined.    D- Demonland. Mental Health facility run by the inmates.   E- The grade you get when you don’t make F- F- Finals. What are they? G- Goals. Lack of them. Need a forward who can kick them….lots! H- Hub. Where players got to live with people you can’t stand. I- Injuries. Miracle cure provided by Dr. Burgess.  

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    WASH, RINSE, SPIN, REPEAT! by George On The Outer

    Although the Demons got over the line in their must win final round game against the hapless Bombers, they ensured it was Groundhog Day for their supporters who well remember what happened three years ago (although, this time they at least enjoyed the success of victory). Melbourne had its customary start dominating play and having plenty of chances in front of goal, only to find itself down on the scoreboard at the first change. Inaccurate kicking, particularly from set shots would have pu

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE LUCK OF THE DRAW by Whispering Jack

    The long awaited clash between Melbourne and Essendon is almost upon us. Thirty-seven rounds of AFL football have passed by since the two clubs met on a balmy early April night last year in a game that produced a high scoring shootout at the MCG with the Bombers prevailing by 18 points. It was their only meeting for 2019 and happened at a time when the pandemic was something on the far distant horizon. Several months later when the 2019 season ended, the AFL issued the first of its fixtures

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THERE’S STILL A HEARTBEAT by George on the Outer

    When bottom side Adelaide scrapped together a win over the Giants last week, a tiny glimmer of hope opened up for the Demons’ finals chances. The patient was in intensive care but not quite finished — there was a faint pulse, a heart beating ever so slightly but was it enough when two more wins and other results were needed to fall their way? The first step was the resuscitation of a team that had lost its last two matches against sides then sitting fifteenth and sixteenth on the ladder. On

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 1

    THE FINAL HUMILIATION by The Oracle

    On Sunday, the Melbourne Football Club that won three consecutive games by in excess of 50 points last month returns to the Gabba, the scene of the last of those victories which was a 56 point drubbing of Collingwood. The Demons got off to a good start and won every quarter with a ruthless and powerful brand of football. They kicked 16 goals that day, their accuracy in front of goal a tribute to the skills the put on display throughout the afternoon and evening. In the four matches playe

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    GIVEN THE OLD HEAVE HO’ by George on the Outer

    Fremantle gave Melbourne the old heave ho’ from playing finals in 2020, in conditions that the Demons yet again failed to handle.   With the whole season on the line and the need to win to stay in contention for finals, what the fans saw was much the same as they have been witnessing so many times before — a complete debacle and capitulation against a side that sat 15th on the ladder before the game.     Promises made after the loss to the 16th placed Sydney Swans were rendered h

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    GETTING THE HEAVE HO by Bananabender

    The ute barely made it up to Cairns in time for us to check into the motel, fling a cane toad out the bathroom. and head over to Cazaly’s Stadium where we took up our position on the wing. There, we saw a completely different Melbourne to the one we watched on the screen only a few nights earlier from Alice Springs. This lot wore similar colours and Maxy dominated the ruck but the similarities ended there - the Demons were simply dreadful against the Swans. They started sluggishly, were spe

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews


×
×
  • Create New...