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POSTGAME: Rd 01 vs West Coast


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Positives: Oscar's best game; Langdon gave us some penetration through the middle, Viney was fantastic, Pickett and Bedford both showed promise.

So it was not all bad, but it looked a lot like last year. Still plenty to learn about setting up the forward line. Can't tell from 3000kms away but were our forwards sucked upfield again? Because Hurn had it easy. Would love to see that turd made accountable.

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37 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Im sure that was the speech Max was giving them to before they broke off for the first bounce.
Come on binny, that was terrible, WCE were outstanding, they sucked it up and focussed on the job at hand. 

It's a little easier psychologically when you know home is a few minutes drive from the ground.

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How is it that a team like West Coast always look like they are kicking into a forward line with 4 people in it, while we seem to have 60 people inside the forward 50?

The fact Weideman hasn't come on would be a huge concern to our coaches. We have been overlooking big forwards while recruiting tall backs. SURELY a power forward must be our next free agency target. If you are going to constantly bomb the ball from 70m out, you need a Tom Hawkins etc to knock defenders on their ahss. McDonald is incapable of doing that and cannot take a pack mark to save himself. And when your ability to lead into space is taken away, you have no tools. I'll bet they are now praying for Petty to become what Weideman was supposed to be

Great thing that we are constantly winning the inside 50's, even against the best sides, but we still get smashed. Surely we lead the league for shots on goal INaccuracy. It's a bloody embarrassment.

 

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56 minutes ago, grazman said:

I agree with everything you wrote and you can add Max to the leaders group.  Strangely lacklustre performance from the Captain in his first game in the role.  

 

Interrupted preparation for the skipper. I suspect he was underdone.

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1 minute ago, faultydet said:

How is it that a team like West Coast always look like they are kicking into a forward line with 4 people in it, while we seem to have 60 people inside the forward 50?

The fact Weideman hasn't come on would be a huge concern to our coaches. We have been overlooking big forwards while recruiting tall backs. SURELY a power forward must be our next free agency target. If you are going to constantly bomb the ball from 70m out, you need a Tom Hawkins etc to knock defenders on their ahss. McDonald is incapable of doing that and cannot take a pack mark to save himself. And when your ability to lead into space is taken away, you have no tools. I'll bet they are now praying for Petty to become what Weideman was supposed to be

Great thing that we are constantly winning the inside 50's, even against the best sides, but we still get smashed. Surely we lead the league for shots on goal INaccuracy. It's a bloody embarrassment.

 

We had a power forward but as usual the curse of the MFC saw him leave & cant get on the park for Freo! 

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1 minute ago, faultydet said:

How is it that a team like West Coast always look like they are kicking into a forward line with 4 people in it, while we seem to have 60 people inside the forward 50?

The fact Weideman hasn't come on would be a huge concern to our coaches. We have been overlooking big forwards while recruiting tall backs. SURELY a power forward must be our next free agency target. If you are going to constantly bomb the ball from 70m out, you need a Tom Hawkins etc to knock defenders on their ahss. McDonald is incapable of doing that and cannot take a pack mark to save himself. And when your ability to lead into space is taken away, you have no tools. I'll bet they are now praying for Petty to become what Weideman was supposed to be

Great thing that we are constantly winning the inside 50's, even against the best sides, but we still get smashed. Surely we lead the league for shots on goal INaccuracy. It's a bloody embarrassment.

 

What free agent would want to come to this club we are a joke.

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Just now, Hogan2014 said:

We had a power forward but as usual the curse of the MFC saw him leave & cant get on the park for Freo! 

Hogan is useless. Our problem is recruitment as a whole. We can't develop players they have no skill.

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Just now, Hogan2014 said:

We had a power forward but as usual the curse of the MFC saw him leave & cant get on the park for Freo! 

If he is not playing at Freo I doubt he would be playing for us. Sadly the young man has problems. I hope it works out for him, because I genuinely fear for his future.

 

Mystified that we cannot hit targets kicking inside 50, or why we spray easy shots on goal constantly. They are professional footballers for Christ sake yet kick like school kids once the sticks are in front of them.

 

Infuriating.

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I watched huge slabs of the other 8 games and saw so many instances of players being able to identify and hit a target inside 50, that it can't be a skill only available to the top echelon. I agree with everyone here who is angered by our poor disposal forward of the centre. It is the single, most obvious reason we are not winning games (and it is a coach killer). Do something about it MFC!!!! It has been our achilles for more than a decade!  

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One interesting stat tells the tale for me. On Metres Gained, top Eagle was Shuey with 500. We had two players who did better than that, and by a lot:

Langdon: 797 
Hibberd: 676

In fact, those two lead Metres Gained across the whole league, and once again by quite a bit. So, great stuff. Except that ... they're also the two players with the most turnovers, 8 and 7 respectively.

We're doing a lot right - but are being let down by disposal and turnovers. People are right here to criticise players for not chasing and for Eagles players getting out the back. But without all those turnovers, the opposition wouldn't be getting out the back in the first place.

(At least not to the extent that they are).

 

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1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Half the team turned up ready to play

Nothing to with the coaches

 

Who’s job is it to select and then coach the players so they are ready to play, if not the coaches? 
I am unsure what the job of the coach actually is if not to ensure the players come to play

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1 minute ago, bing181 said:

One interesting stat tells the tale for me. On Metres Gained, top Eagle was Shuey with 500. We had two players who did better than that, and by a lot:

Langdon: 797 
Hibberd: 676

In fact, those two lead Metres Gained across the whole league, and once again by quite a bit. So, great stuff. Except that ... they're also the two players with the most turnovers, 8 and 7 respectively.

We're doing a lot right - but are being let down by disposal and turnovers. People are right here to criticise players for not chasing and for Eagles players getting out the back. But without all those turnovers, the opposition wouldn't be getting out the back in the first place.

(At least not to the extent that they are).

 

Unfortunately Langdon got a lot of it, ran with it but so often turned it straight over to an Eagle and we were then exposed for pace back the other way. But so would most sides. You have to stop the turnovers. So what is it with 24/7 professional footballers not being able to deliver a ball 20 to 30 meters to a teammate, often under no pressure? Yet we saw it time and time again today. 

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26 minutes ago, Redleg said:

What is the excuse for missing 20 metre passes countless times?

We actually gave them the ball more than they won it.

Spargo  missed his targets and made or linked in with passes with the opposition for 2 goals . Amazing he looked good for them. OMG.

Spargo played his best game for the Eagles. How do you work that out? It did happen.IMO.

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