Farewell Jesse Hogan

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Remember when Jesse first came to the MFC and the plan was to have him move in with Mitch Clark? 

He did live with him for some time 100%

[hemingway 7,615]

13 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

He did live with him for some time 100%

Well clearly that's when Jesse's problems all started.

[monoccular 17,411]

22 hours ago, Dame Gaga said:

This is true, but I was thinking in the context of elite athletes, which is what footballers now claim to be. It is not ideal to be either drinking in excess, or taking drugs, especially in the season. I also previously referred to Ralph mentioning Hogan and Cousins in the same breath. Perhaps Cousins thought he could control his drug intake while playing football, but since then it has all been tragically downhill for him. I do not wish this to happen to anyone, footballer or otherwise.

Really?

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3 hours ago, Nasher said:

Remember when Jesse first came to the MFC and the plan was to have him move in with Mitch Clark? 

Mitch would have some good photos 

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6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Scarface??

The Godfather (III I think).

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

21 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Really?

Maybe? I don't know for sure. But now we know the drugs control him. "Such is life"? A life wasted now, if his family is asked.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,325]

Anyone else hear Malcolm Blights take

on this?

[Cards13 9,117]

4 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

At least Fremantle have a cool, calm and collected senior coach who will approach these indiscretions in a mature manner and deal with them appropriately. 

And you just know if things go pear shaped, Rossco will stick fat.

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16 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Anyone else hear Malcolm Blights take

on this?

???

[Little Goffy 14,434]

Can anyone tell me which of the following is Fremantle's attitude to player welfare issues?

a ) Player welfare doesn't matter

b ) Player welfare matters, but it is not our responsibility

c ) Player welfare is a useful excuse to use later, since we are going to fail anyway, because we are Fremantle

d ) We're here for a good time, not a september time!

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

1 hour ago, M_9 said:

The Godfather (III I think).

Yes of course 

been a while since i have had a trilogy weekend!

[Jaded No More 68,855]

The worst thing someone struggling with mental health issues can do, is mix up with the wrong crowd. It sounds like his “mates” that he so desperately wanted to get back to, are the wrong crowd. Mix that with a footy club that has a poor culture and a failed history of handling troubled players badly, and you have a recipe for disaster. 

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1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Anyone else hear Malcolm Blights take

on this?

please explain.

[monoccular 17,411]

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Anyone else hear Malcolm Blights take

on this?

Not I. 

Enlighten us please.  

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Can anyone tell me which of the following is Fremantle's attitude to player welfare issues?

a ) Player welfare doesn't matter

b ) Player welfare matters, but it is not our responsibility

c ) Player welfare is a useful excuse to use later, since we are going to fail anyway, because we are Fremantle

d ) We're here for a good time, not a september time!

No one knows and neither does Fremantle. Doesn't their song go like this? " Heave ho, heave ho, round and round we go, where we stop we do know".  At least that's what it sounds like to me every time they play that terrible dirge.

[Cards13 9,117]

2 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Anyone else hear Malcolm Blights take

on this?

Old man yells at the clouds?

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Let me be first to call a Trent Croad like trade.

We will take Jesse back and he probably needs to come back for his health.

We will get him back for nothing. He has a support network within and outside the footy club.

Croad had similar talent  / issues to Hogan.

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2 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Anyone else hear Malcolm Blights take

on this?

He couldn't give a rats toss bag?

[DV8 2,271]

On 3/20/2019 at 7:01 PM, hemingway said:

The environment of Perth may well be a disadvantage for Jesse.

We know of Perth's history with troubled footballers.

Too close to Asia ?

Why is the West worse than the East ?   In off-field footy terms ?

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1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

Let me be first to call a Trent Croad like trade.

We will take Jesse back and he probably needs to come back for his health.

We will get him back for nothing. He has a support network within and outside the footy club.

Croad had similar talent  / issues to Hogan.

Trying to be respectful to Hogan and Croad here, I think you will find their 'issues' are very different.

 

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3 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Let me be first to call a Trent Croad like trade.

We will take Jesse back and he probably needs to come back for his health.

We will get him back for nothing. He has a support network within and outside the footy club.

Croad had similar talent  / issues to Hogan.

Has already been put forward by a few posters

[ManDee 7,124]

9 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Let me be first to call a Trent Croad like trade.

We will take Jesse back and he probably needs to come back for his health.

We will get him back for nothing. He has a support network within and outside the footy club.

Croad had similar talent  / issues to Hogan.

Far from first ol45

[dazzledavey36 54,191]

10 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Let me be first to call a Trent Croad like trade.

We will take Jesse back and he probably needs to come back for his health.

We will get him back for nothing. He has a support network within and outside the footy club.

Croad had similar talent  / issues to Hogan.

Called it after he was traded. Only signed a 3 year deal with Freo which i found odd..

The penny will drop where at some stafe with Hogan where he will realise how good of a support network he had in Melbourne. Add in also that Nathan Jones played a huge mentoring role for Hogan, and him and Goody were quite close. Only have to hear Goodys press conference of him saying that he has texted him and has the full support of the footy club.

Freo have a poor culture and poor leadership. If they are not careful and dont put in the right supporting networks around him he could implode and backfire on them.

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19 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Called it after he was traded. Only signed a 3 year deal with Freo which i found odd..

The penny will drop where at some stafe with Hogan where he will realise how good of a support network he had in Melbourne. Add in also that Nathan Jones played a huge mentoring role for Hogan, and him and Goody were quite close. Only have to hear Goodys press conference of him saying that he has texted him and has the full support of the footy club.

Freo have a poor culture and poor leadership. If they are not careful and dont put in the right supporting networks around him he could implode and backfire on them.

I don't wish to sound harsh, but if he does "implode" (and I hope that doesn't happen) we may not want him back. We may not want him back anyway, either because we've adequately filled the gap he left behind or we are not interested in taking back a player who needs significant pastoral care which drains resources.

I hope he succeeds to a level which makes him and Freo happy. I still doubt it will be enough for Freo to win a Premiership while Ross Lyon is coach, though. Lyon's game style seems to be primarily about not losing, rather than winning.That might get a team all the way to the finals, but the highly disciplined approach and lack of risk-taking which his game style requires will leave the team unable to respond when it really counts in a big game.

Edited March 21, 2019 by La Dee-vina Comedia

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